Yes, Donald Trump Is the Antichrist

[HipKat]

Of course the next question is: what kind of antichrist is he?

A listener called into my program yesterday and asked, "Is Donald Trump the Antichrist?"

I passed on drawing a conclusion, but then the lines lit up with a steady stream of people over the next few hours offering their "proofs" that Trump was, in fact, the Evil One come to ravage the Earth. That first caller clearly hit a nerve.

It's a fascinating question, however, whether put literally or metaphorically.

Asking the question literally requires a belief in the actual reality of a Son-of-God Christ figure and of an Antichrist opponent of nearly equal but opposite power. This sort of thing fills the Bible, and I'll get to that in a moment.

But first consider the question from the secular perspective, which argues these two terms represent, at their core, metaphors for the embodiment of good and evil.

In this context, then, a more accurate question is: "Is Donald Trump an Antichrist?"

In The Sermon on the Mount, Jesus spoke in the plural when he predicted "false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravening wolves."

After warning that grifters and con artists (in secular terms) would try to exploit His followers, He said, "by their fruits ye shall know them."

Trump's "fruits" are pretty obvious:

• More than twenty women have accused him of rape and sexual assault.

• Hundreds of contractors, customers and employees have accused him of stealing from them or refusing to pay them (or both), as have members of his own family

• Throughout his presidency, he lied over 30,000 times

• He pit Americans against each other by race, religion and region in an effort to tear our country apart and thus weaken opposition to his authoritarian rule

• He openly encouraged violence against unarmed people at multiple rallies and encourage state violence at a speech to chiefs of police

• He tried to overthrow and end our democracy

• He embraced murderers, kleptocrats and "strongman" rulers while ridiculing western democracies and their elected leaders

• He tried to damage or dismantle political and military systems designed to keep peace in the world, including the UN, NATO and the Iran JCPOA

• He reaches out to Jesus's followers and then directs them toward bigotry, violence and hatred

• As an object of admiration and a role model, he's replaced Jesus in many white evangelical congregations

• He delighted in tearing children from their parents and putting them in cages

• He tried to end Americans' access to lifesaving medical care by killing Obamacare and privatizing Medicare

• He watched on TV, like a delighted child, as his followers killed a police officer, sent 140 others to the hospital, and tried to murder the Vice President and Speaker of the House

• He lied about Covid (after disclosing the truth to Bob Woodward in February, 2020), causing more disease and deaths in America than any other nation in the world

The main reason many Christians freak out about an antichrist is that following him will get you banned from heaven or even cast into hell.

But what did Jesus--the guy Trump's white evangelical followers claim as their savior--say was necessary to get into heaven?

Back in 1998 I had a private audience with Pope John Paul II at his invitation; a person close to him had read one of my books. Louise and I sat through an open-air concert with him and about 30 VIPs, including the leader of Germany's Bundestag, for more than an hour, surrounded by the splendor of Castel Gandolfo, the Pope's summer palace on the rim of an extinct volcano overlooking lake Albano.

When we spoke privately after the concert, His Holiness's forceful comments reminded me of Jesus' words in Matthew 25. It's an amazing 2,000 year-old story that tells us everything we need to know about today's "Christian" politics:

Jesus' disciples had gathered around him in a private and intimate setting.

Finally, they thought, they could ask him, straight up, the question that had been haunting them, particularly now that the Roman authorities were starting to talk about punishing or even executing them: How they could be sure to hang out with him in the afterlife?

Jesus told them that at the end of days he'd be sitting on his throne separating the sheep from the goats "as a shepherd divideth."

The nations of "sheep" would go with him to heaven, the "goats" to hell.

"For I was an hungred, and ye gave me food," he told his disciples he would say to the sheep. "I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me."

At this point, his disciples--who had never, ever seen Jesus hungry, thirsty, homeless, sick or naked--freaked out. Whoa! they shouted. We're screwed!

"When saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee?" they asked, panicked. "Or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? Or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?"

"Verily I say unto you," Jesus replied, reassuring them, "Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."

This is the only place in the Bible where Jesus explicitly tells his disciples what acts they must perform, in their entirety, to get into heaven.

Feed the hungry, care for refugees, house and clothe the homeless, heal the sick, have compassion on those in prison.

That's it.

And it's a list that is quite literally the opposite of everything that Donald Trump advocates, stands for, and has done in his career.

While biblical scholars are split about who the actual "Beast" was that John referenced in his Revelation, many consider it to have been a politically-necessary cloaking of the identity of Roman Emperor Nero.

It was clearly a political figure, who represented the antithesis of the values and works Jesus laid out in the Sermon on the Mount and in Matthew 25.

A leader whose actions unleashed "a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth."

Caller after caller yesterday offered their own proofs of Trump being the Beast or the Antichrist:

• "MAGA" means "magic" or "sorcerer" in Latin and multiple other languages

• His grandfather's name when he emigrated to America to start a whorehouse in the Pacific Northwest was "Drumpf," which he changed to Trump. John in German is "Johann." Therefore, his "actual" name is Donald Johann Drumpf--each name having six letters. (Weirdly, the same is true of Ronald Wilson Reagan.)

• He armed the Saudis for their merciless bombing war against Yemen which has five million people facing famine as the Saudi military blocks food arrivals.

• His family owns 666 Fifth Avenue.

• He fooled millions of evangelical followers of Jesus, just as the Beast was supposed to do.

• He put his own red-hat MAGA mark on their foreheads.

• He consorts with "whores" and criminals.

It was an interesting exercise and conversation, and I was surprised by how many people are actually religiously freaked out about Trump.

But for me, all the proof I need that Trump, if not the biblical Antichrist, is at least a political one, is what he says and does.

His "fruits" tell us all we need to know about who he really is.

[Very Wide Right]

Hip, you are smarter than this. Your entire list is ridiculous disinformation. This is typical partisan garbage from leftist "news".

 

[HipKat]

24 minutes ago, Very Wide Right said:

Hip, you are smarter than this. Your entire list is ridiculous disinformation. This is typical partisan garbage from leftist "news".

 

Not my list but I will agree this is just an opinion piece.

Why not just dispute the guy's bullet points?

[Crinoline]

That list could fit almost any politician nowadays.

[RichJ]

I though the could be when he was president, but then he lost. He does have the narcissistic personality to claim he is the messiah plus Israel loves him. Israel would have to trust the false prophet for that person to be the anti Christ.If he wins 2024 then well have to see.

 

The world will trust the anti Christ and fool everyone.He will be a globalist. One religion etc. Etc. 

So far Trump is jot a globalist and is  hated by leftists and EU which leads me to believe it might not be him. 

A lot people think it's the pope.  I think the anti Christ will come from the EU. 

[HipKat]

1 hour ago, Crinoline said:

That list could fit almost any politician nowadays.

After re-reading the list - no

[HipKat]

9 minutes ago, RichJ said:

I though the could be when he was president, but then he lost.

I think losing and the atmosphere about and around him fits even better.

9 minutes ago, RichJ said:

He does have the narcissistic personality to claim he is the messiah plus Israel loves him. Israel would have to trust the false prophet for that person to be the anti Christ.If he wins 2024 then well have to see.

The world will trust the anti Christ and fool everyone.He will be a globalist. One religion etc. Etc. 

Uh-huh! That's him. 75 Million Americans and many around the world, including some world leaders who have adopted a form of Trumpism

9 minutes ago, RichJ said:

So far Trump is jot a globalist and is  hated by leftists and EU which leads me to believe it might not be him. 

How can he be a Globalist if you just posted that he puts America ahead of everything? Not tyo mention his attacks on most of our allies

9 minutes ago, RichJ said:

A lot people think it's the pope.  I think the anti Christ will come from the EU. 

The Pope is hardly even relvant anymore

[RichJ]

3 minutes ago, HipKat said:

I think losing and the atmosphere about and around him fits even better.

Uh-huh! That's him. 75 Million Americans and many around the world, including some world leaders who have adopted a form of Trumpism

How can he be a Globalist if you just posted that he puts America ahead of everything? Not tyo mention his attacks on most of our allies

The Pope is hardly even relvant anymore

He  is disliked by our allies except for Israel.

That's why I said it might not be him because he isn't a globalist. 

 

The pope is still very influential in the world stage especially in the Catholic religion. This one is a liberal. 

I also think Musk could be a possibility. The anti Christ will do miracles..Musk is creatimg cures for cancer. 

[HipKat]

3 minutes ago, RichJ said:

He  is disliked by our allies except for Israel.

That's why I said it might not be him because he isn't a globalist. 

 

The pope is still very influential in the world stage especially in the Catholic religion. This one is a liberal. 

I also think Musk could be a possibility. The anti Christ will do miracles..Musk is creatimg cures for cancer. 

Maybe the Antichrist is a collective of people

[RichJ]

Just now, HipKat said:

Maybe the Antichrist is a collective of people

Biblically speaking, it's a person . A group of people cannot claim to be a Messiah or the 2nd coming of Christ. 

[Woody]

Prince William being the anti-Christ is more believable. 

 

[HipKat]

4 minutes ago, Woody said:

Prince William being the anti-Christ is more believable. 

 

OK, MAGA

[Angry Byrds]

6 hours ago, HipKat said:

Not my list but I will agree this is just an opinion piece.

Why not just dispute the guy's bullet points?

This isn’t a hat first off. Voting for Trump different than worshipping and taking the mark of the beast on the forehead or hand.

If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he shall also drink the wine of God’s fury, poured full strength into the cup of His wrath. And he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone before the holy angels and before the Lamb. The smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever. Those who worship the beast and its image and those who receive the mark of his name have no rest day or night. (Revelation 14:9-11)

1st he isn’t a religious leader. The antichrist will claim to be the Christ and ask to be worshipped. The mark on the forehead or hand will be a form of monetary payment and recognition that the antichrist is their God.

 

2nd He will perform miracles in order to give the appearance of being 2nd coming.

 

3rd he will reject Gods law.

 

4th he will persecute Christians and those that don’t worship him. Nobody is worshipping Trump(show reverence and adoration for (a deity); honor with religious rites.) 

I’m pretty sure Trump has claimed that there nobody above the triune God. Regardless if he means it or not.

 

[Angry Byrds]

It’s scary how misinformed people are about the antichrist no wonder people will be so easily deceived by satan.

[HipKat]

2 hours ago, Angry Byrds said:

This isn’t a hat first off. Voting for Trump different than worshipping and taking the mark of the beast on the forehead or hand.

If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he shall also drink the wine of God’s fury, poured full strength into the cup of His wrath. And he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone before the holy angels and before the Lamb. The smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever. Those who worship the beast and its image and those who receive the mark of his name have no rest day or night. (Revelation 14:9-11)

1st he isn’t a religious leader. The antichrist will claim to be the Christ and ask to be worshipped. The mark on the forehead or hand will be a form of monetary payment and recognition that the antichrist is their God.

 

2nd He will perform miracles in order to give the appearance of being 2nd coming.

 

3rd he will reject Gods law.

 

4th he will persecute Christians and those that don’t worship him. Nobody is worshipping Trump(show reverence and adoration for (a deity); honor with religious rites.) 

I’m pretty sure Trump has claimed that there nobody above the triune God. Regardless if he means it or not.

 

If you take the Bible literally instead of philosophically.

[Angry Byrds]

3 hours ago, HipKat said:

If you take the Bible literally instead of philosophically.

Maybe you should try reading it. It’s not hard. If you have questions GotQuestions.org is a great place to start. I disputed your bullet points and you gave me nothing. Some parts are literal some aren’t let’s not rewrite the Bible because you want it to fit this agenda. 
 

If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he shall also drink the wine of God’s fury, poured full strength into the cup of His wrath. And he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone before the holy angels and before the Lamb. The smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever. Those who worship the beast and its image and those who receive the mark of his name have no rest day or night. (Revelation 14:9-11

This is pretty clear. Nobody will understand it if we have people sowing doubt into peoples mind because they hate Trump that much.

[thinwhiteduke]

Lol at calling it a opinion piece.

Its Homer Simpson level propaganda.

Its as dumb as 1980s tabloid crap.

All presidents are just stupid minions. 

 

[HipKat]

7 hours ago, Angry Byrds said:

Maybe you should try reading it. It’s not hard. If you have questions GotQuestions.org is a great place to start. I disputed your bullet points and you gave me nothing. Some parts are literal some aren’t let’s not rewrite the Bible because you want it to fit this agenda. 
 

If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he shall also drink the wine of God’s fury, poured full strength into the cup of His wrath. And he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone before the holy angels and before the Lamb. The smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever. Those who worship the beast and its image and those who receive the mark of his name have no rest day or night. (Revelation 14:9-11

This is pretty clear. Nobody will understand it if we have people sowing doubt into peoples mind because they hate Trump that much.

I've read, more than once and I will not ever take it as a literal, word for word factual book. 

I'm sorry, I live in a world of logic and common sense and it's easy to see the bible is somewhat factual but also more philosophical and metaphorical. Unless you truly believe that Noah captured 2 of every single animal and insect alive on Earth - specifically mating pairs - and managed to keep them alive on nothing but a water-world for a month and a half.

Dates don't line up, some figures have no evidence of existing and some stories don't line up with what we can see historical evidence of.

I respect your faith but actual facts matter.

As for the OP, it's just an opinion but anyone who can regard Trump with the type of contempt necessary to seer the truth about him may have an easier time making some of those connections than anyone who has any inkling that he may be innocent of the indictments, was a good President and should win the Oval Office again

[Angry Byrds]

1 hour ago, HipKat said:

I've read, more than once and I will not ever take it as a literal, word for word factual book. 

I'm sorry, I live in a world of logic and common sense and it's easy to see the bible is somewhat factual but also more philosophical and metaphorical. Unless you truly believe that Noah captured 2 of every single animal and insect alive on Earth - specifically mating pairs - and managed to keep them alive on nothing but a water-world for a month and a half.

Dates don't line up, some figures have no evidence of existing and some stories don't line up with what we can see historical evidence of.

I respect your faith but actual facts matter.

As for the OP, it's just an opinion but anyone who can regard Trump with the type of contempt necessary to seer the truth about him may have an easier time making some of those connections than anyone who has any inkling that he may be innocent of the indictments, was a good President and should win the Oval Office again

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjrpNvrmNCCAxW4m2oFHZhAChYQFnoECCcQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fstore.icr.org%2Fnoahs-ark-a-feasibility-study.html&usg=AOvVaw0sKiq_bl0F6A4vJlNAcCaV&opi=89978449

[HipKat]

2 hours ago, Angry Byrds said:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjrpNvrmNCCAxW4m2oFHZhAChYQFnoECCcQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fstore.icr.org%2Fnoahs-ark-a-feasibility-study.html&usg=AOvVaw0sKiq_bl0F6A4vJlNAcCaV&opi=89978449

Dude, no offense, but I don’t even know what that is much less do I want to click on it

[Very Wide Right]

Its always amusing to watch the people that support abortion then quote the bible for political rhetoric.

[HipKat]

30 minutes ago, Very Wide Right said:

Its always amusing to watch the people that support abortion then quote the bible for political rhetoric.

Who is in this thread that supports abortion?

[LIBills]

25 minutes ago, HipKat said:

Who is in this thread that supports abortion?

It’s a subject I stay away from because there is no right answer for it.

Above my pay grade.

[Angry Byrds]

On 11/19/2023 at 7:30 AM, HipKat said:

I've read, more than once and I will not ever take it as a literal, word for word factual book. 

I'm sorry, I live in a world of logic and common sense and it's easy to see the bible is somewhat factual but also more philosophical and metaphorical. Unless you truly believe that Noah captured 2 of every single animal and insect alive on Earth - specifically mating pairs - and managed to keep them alive on nothing but a water-world for a month and a half.

Dates don't line up, some figures have no evidence of existing and some stories don't line up with what we can see historical evidence of.

I respect your faith but actual facts matter.

As for the OP, it's just an opinion but anyone who can regard Trump with the type of contempt necessary to seer the truth about him may have an easier time making some of those connections than anyone who has any inkling that he may be innocent of the indictments, was a good President and should win the Oval Office again

That’s fine to take it how you want, but it’s meant to be taken literally regardless if you believe it or not. When Jesus said do communion in remembrance of me he meant do communion period, it’s the new covenant. You can take as he meant to have a good morning pee, but he is saying it plainly so people won’t be confused or mistaken. God doesn’t want people to go to hell so Hes not going to say take the beasts mark on your forehead or hand to confuse His people when it really meant to where Trumps Maga hat. You WILL know you are receiving it period. Also you have those on the far right who think that vaccine is the mark which is just as dumb. God would not try and confuse us he gives warnings leading up to for a reason. 
 

This just what I believe. Not trying to argue with you just makes sense that God would not try and trick us into going to hell lol.

 

also the link I gave was a book written about the Noah’s ark thing and how it was very possible, and explains it in detail.

[TonyasTaters]

34 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said:

That’s fine to take it how you want, but it’s meant to be taken literally regardless if you believe it or not. When Jesus said do communion in remembrance of me he meant do communion period, it’s the new covenant. You can take as he meant to have a good morning pee, but he is saying it plainly so people won’t be confused or mistaken. God doesn’t want people to go to hell so Hes not going to say take the beasts mark on your forehead or hand to confuse His people when it really meant to where Trumps Maga hat. You WILL know you are receiving it period. Also you have those on the far right who think that vaccine is the mark which is just as dumb. God would not try and confuse us he gives warnings leading up to for a reason. 
 

This just what I believe. Not trying to argue with you just makes sense that God would not try and trick us into going to hell lol.

 

also the link I gave was a book written about the Noah’s ark thing and how it was very possible, and explains it in detail.

Just curious on your take is when a person specifically a kid dies and people say it's Gods plan. Do you believe that? Or is it more of a coping mechanism?