Popular Post shiva2999 Posted November 11 Popular Post Share Posted November 11 6 minutes ago, Very Wide Right said: A little early to be getting wasted isn't it? It's never too early. 2 1 Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikedLemonade Posted November 11 Author Share Posted November 11 58 minutes ago, shiva2999 said: It's never too early. That’s right. I have been at my local Legion since 11:20 AM drinking with the old vets. Will need to nap to recoup before the Just For Laughs event tonight. 1 Quote Do Your Part to Improve The Range -- Please put the TRIO OF TRUMP FLUFFERSTM on IGNORE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Very Wide Right Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 46 minutes ago, SpikedLemonade said: That’s right. I have been at my local Legion since 11:20 AM drinking with the old vets. Will need to nap to recoup before the Just For Laughs event tonight. Thats ironic, you, the guy that received a phone call and became so alarmed and scared that you talked about it for a month drinking with brave men that served. You must be there to clean up after them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herodotus Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 2 hours ago, LiterateStylish said: Unions are fine. I support them. But I also support an employers right to use scabs and negotiate with the union. Banning scabs is a terrible precedent that sides with one party only. That's fine, then I must support sit down strikes, using any means available to the strikers to deny entry into the workspace for the scabs, which as seen from UAW 1937 leads to a hell of a lot more violence. Scabs are useless incompetents who only serve to go against their own interests in the end. You are a tool and everyone's fool 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikedLemonade Posted November 11 Author Share Posted November 11 It is a real pity that Lit intentionally reduced the file size that can be attached to posts. I have been shitting like a World Champion ever since my Dietitian suggested a drastic increase In my fibre, a change in the type of probiotics I take and the generic version of that orange terrible tasting powder I mix in water and drink 3 times a day. I have not had diarrhea for 2 months. Huge logs that amaze even me. A picture here would truly be better than 10,000 words. Quote Do Your Part to Improve The Range -- Please put the TRIO OF TRUMP FLUFFERSTM on IGNORE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Very Wide Right Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 1 hour ago, Herodotus said: That's fine, then I must support sit down strikes, using any means available to the strikers to deny entry into the workspace for the scabs, which as seen from UAW 1937 leads to a hell of a lot more violence. Scabs are useless incompetents who only serve to go against their own interests in the end. You are a tool and everyone's fool Get in your lane Marsha, you can condone violence against people all you want but weren't you the one that was cowering when Spike threatened to blow up your house? Your juvenile attitude in harming people who don't think like you is just wrong but a pussy like you wouldn't be doing anything would you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herodotus Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 21 minutes ago, Very Wide Right said: Get in your lane Marsha, you can condone violence against people all you want but weren't you the one that was cowering when Spike threatened to blow up your house? Your juvenile attitude in harming people who don't think like you is just wrong but a pussy like you wouldn't be doing anything would you? I condone no violence, but scabs and those who back them do promote violence. Meta dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyasTaters Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 45 minutes ago, Very Wide Right said: Get in your lane Marsha, you can condone violence against people all you want but weren't you the one that was cowering when Spike threatened to blow up your house? Your juvenile attitude in harming people who don't think like you is just wrong but a pussy like you wouldn't be doing anything would you? Hero may shave his legs and we probably don't agree often but at least he works for living. You are an entity who thinks you are entitled to everyone else's money. You have proven you are a welfare case so back off of those who work for a living and pay taxes.you are an elitist fraud! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herodotus Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 10 minutes ago, TonyasTaters said: Hero may shave his legs and we probably don't agree often but at least he works for living. You are an entity who thinks you are entitled to everyone else's money. You have proven you are a welfare case so back off of those who work for a living and pay taxes.you are an elitist fraud! Please, I have been compared to bigfoot. I'v never shaved below my neckline and I haven't so much as trimmed my beard since sometime last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyasTaters Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 29 minutes ago, Herodotus said: Please, I have been compared to bigfoot. I'v never shaved below my neckline and I haven't so much as trimmed my beard since sometime last year. I was kidding, I believe you. Calm down Chubaka 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 On 11/10/2023 at 12:44 PM, Very Wide Right said: Unions suck. Just check out the UAW, nuff said. So what you're really saying is that you don't have a clue. Got it 1 Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiterateStylish Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 7 hours ago, Herodotus said: That's fine, then I must support sit down strikes, using any means available to the strikers to deny entry into the workspace for the scabs, which as seen from UAW 1937 leads to a hell of a lot more violence. Scabs are useless incompetents who only serve to go against their own interests in the end. You are a tool and everyone's fool Like usual, your argument is escalating into extremes. While I understand your passion for workers' rights, it's important to consider that effective labor relations require balance. Unions certainly have the right to strike. Its an important tool to make sure workers are able to negotiate better conditions and pay. However, completely banning the use of scabs would create an imbalance. If businesses are unable to operate at all during a strike, it can lead to severe economic consequences, not just for the company, but for the employees as well. Companies could face irreparable harm or even go bankrupt, leading to job losses. Some people (and maybe you) would respond "well just give the workers what they want and the business will re-open", but that ignores the fact that many unions ask for extreme and unreasonable conditions. Terms that would literally bankrupt a business. Remember, the goal of a strike is to reach a better agreement, not to shut down the business permanently. By banning scabs, all power goes to workers, and there is no negotiation. The employers become the boss and get to dictate exactly what happens. Also, characterizing all scabs as "incompetent" and "against their own interests" is ridiculously shallow. Many people take these roles out of necessity, often due to their own financial pressures. They're not necessarily against unions; they're just trying to make a living. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herodotus Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 European workers have rights and benefits that we can only dream of, and that is because capital lives in dread of strikers. Also, the EU has some of the world's largest economies and they are thriving even in the face of supply shortages and economic limitations imposed by their backfiring sanctions. Us? How strong is labor here? Well some years ago I heard a guy -non union- bitch that because the union demanded a fair wage and pension his factory off shored. Bro, that ain't on the union. The blame for you losing your job is on your company. Oh and the last people to enjoy unions and good jobs -federal workers, of which KC is full of and many of whom I know - well yokels bitch that those feds get 4 hours of sick time and vacation time a month from the very first day. Something seemed off on that claim so I asked a buddy I know who works for Social Security Administration and he siad federal workers get 4 hours a pay check. Federal workers also have pension, some sort of 401K, can't remember what its called, collective bargaining and yet people hate them for it. Now look, I know the federal government is full of incompetents, I mean people who I am pleasantly surprised at when they demonstrate that they can tie their shoes or find their car keys, but don't hate them because they have benefits and decent pay ask your boss why you don't have better pay and benefits yourself. Oh wait, you don't have a union shop and that could get you fired? Okay, maybe you should just semi anonymously bitch about it on a dying sportsball subforum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiterateStylish Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 3 hours ago, Herodotus said: Well some years ago I heard a guy -non union- bitch that because the union demanded a fair wage and pension his factory off shored. Bro, that ain't on the union. The blame for you losing your job is on your company. This often happens because the unions demands are so absurd that meeting these demands would bankrupt the company. Literally. This isn’t theory. It’s happened. Companies often have two choices: Look elsewhere or close. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Herodotus Posted November 12 Popular Post Share Posted November 12 1 minute ago, LiterateStylish said: This often happens because the unions demands are so absurd that meeting these demands would bankrupt the company. Literally. This isn’t theory. It’s happened. Companies often have two choices: Look elsewhere or close. This has happened as much as someone giving you 4000 bucks for this place. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiterateStylish Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 8 hours ago, Herodotus said: This has happened as much as someone giving you 4000 bucks for this place. It’s already sold. It’ll flip on Jan 1st. And yeah, unions causing bankruptcies have happened for decades. Including right in our own backyard. My grandfather was a worker for Bethleheem steel. Here is but a fraction of the companies decimated by high union demands: Bethlehem Steel: Struggled with high costs for worker contracts and pensions, due to union pressure. This was famous in Buffalo. The union destroyed the company. Hawker Beechcraft: The union machinist voted against a new seven-year contract that would have included a 10% pay cut and higher worker health insurance contributions DESPITE the Union leadership recommending that its rank and file accept the company's offer rather than risk losing their jobs, but a majority of the union workers voted against the contract. The company then went bankrupt. Eastern Airlines: Filed for bankruptcy in 1989 due to disputes and a strike with workers. Most workers didn’t understand that there is little profit margin in the airline industry. Delphi Corporation: The union forced such insanely cost prohibitive pensions that the government had to literally sue to cancel them because the company was being put out of business and they were a major parts supplier that the auto economy needed. US Steel: Struggled in the 1980s due to a very strong union that bullied the company into rates that were unsustainable. Had to go bankrupt. YRC Worldwide: High costs from contracts with the Teamsters Union pushed them to the brink of bankruptcy. Thankfully in this case, the union realized they bit off more than the company could chew and actually relented and backtracked on their contractual demands so it didn’t put them out of business. Patriot Coal: Filed for bankruptcy in 2012 due to exorbitant pension and healthcare costs for workers due to the union. There are hundreds more examples, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiterateStylish Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 12 hours ago, Herodotus said: Also, the EU has some of the world's largest economies And yet they are a fraction of the size of the US economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ticat Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 Unions here are to political now. Sad when the unions came out on the side of Hamas after Oct 7th. They need major changes at the top. Quote Certainly when we look at the great prime ministers of the 20th century, those that really stood the test of time, they were MPs from Quebec. … This country — Canada — it belongs to us.” Justin Trudeau. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknaboz Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 It appears Lit (and the other rwnj's here) get a chuckle seeing homeless encampments on all our major cities streets. Fuck unions! Fuck a livable wage! Fuck health insurance! FUCK YOU! Your largest economy bs don't mean shit when we have hundreds of thousands living on the streets, tens of thousands of them veterans. Like trump, do you also think those who died in war are just losers as he has said in the past? Oh wait, it appears he he has some new speech writers as of yesterday he is now praising veterans. You RW fuckheads are so transparent. 1 1 Quote [/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknaboz Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 5 minutes ago, ticat said: Unions here are to political now. Sad when the unions came out on the side of Hamas after Oct 7th. They need major changes at the top. Whatever!! First lets see some evidence from you of unions supporting Hamas? That's bullshit you right wingers eat up. Supporting a cease fire is not supporting HAMAS no matter how much you want it to be. WITH ISRAEL, MOSTLY: The biggest names in labor are standing firmly with Israel in its war with Hamas. But as with institutions in business, education and the Democratic Party itself, organizers have faced some dissent in their ranks including calls for a cease-fire, nearly a month into the conflict and humanitarian crisis after Hamas’ deadly attack on Israel Oct. 7. https://www.politico.com/newsletters/weekly-shift/2023/10/30/how-unions-are-responding-to-the-israel-hamas-war-00124176 Quote [/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikedLemonade Posted November 12 Author Share Posted November 12 26 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said: It’s already sold. It’ll flip on Jan 1st. Would you be so kind to let us know who or what the new Owner will be? Quote Do Your Part to Improve The Range -- Please put the TRIO OF TRUMP FLUFFERSTM on IGNORE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiterateStylish Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 9 minutes ago, SpikedLemonade said: Would you be so kind to let us know who or what the new Owner will be? A fairly large and popular Bills site. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiterateStylish Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 16 minutes ago, micknaboz said: It appears Lit (and the other rwnj's here) get a chuckle seeing homeless encampments on all our major cities streets. Fuck unions! Fuck a livable wage! Fuck health insurance! FUCK YOU! Your largest economy bs don't mean shit when we have hundreds of thousands living on the streets, tens of thousands of them veterans. Like trump, do you also think those who died in war are just losers as he has said in the past? Oh wait, it appears he he has some new speech writers as of yesterday he is now praising veterans. You RW fuckheads are so transparent. Unions aren’t causing homeless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknaboz Posted November 12 Share Posted November 12 2 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said: Unions aren’t causing homeless. No shit sherlock! What are you trying to say there? 1 Quote [/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikedLemonade Posted November 12 Author Share Posted November 12 12 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said: A fairly large and popular Bills site. That means the end to many of the assholes here. I probably already post there. Quote Do Your Part to Improve The Range -- Please put the TRIO OF TRUMP FLUFFERSTM on IGNORE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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