Herodotus Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 A year or so ago @TonyasTaters lamented, and rightly so I add, 450 Ukrainian children dying. Hell, he called me a war criminal supporter even when I posted UN Human Rights Commission figures that show Russia has only killed 9,600 some odd Civilians. See for yourself: https://www.ohchr.org/en/news/2023/09/ukraine-civilian-casualty-update-24-september-2023#_ftn1 Truly, a terrible amount of people and inexcusable. Its also why I hate war as in war no matter how hard you try to avoid it and Russia has certainly shown far more restraint than the "rules based" world order nations of the US and Britain are capable of (Iraqi civilian dead per year were at least 35,000 and maybe as much as half a million). Now Tony, Tonya, Bill, whatever, I agree 450 children dead and 10,000 civilian dead is a tragedy. So I ask you Tonya, what do you say about Israel's killing of Palestinian Children? Per the UN 160 children are being killed a day because of the current Israeli war. 10,000 people have died in two months and we may never know how many are dying because unlike Ukraine, nobody's propaganda organs has any real reason to keep track of civilian death. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/israeli-forces-cut-off-north-gaza-as-palestinian-death-toll-from-monthlong-war-passes-10000#:~:text=Casualties will likely rise on,Hamas that started the conflict. https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-11-1-2023-children-killed-4a352398b32887e60a658e0270f0a021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikedLemonade Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 “But…but…but…but…the Jews are The Chosen People…” Quote Do Your Part to Improve The Range -- Please put the TRIO OF TRUMP FLUFFERSTM on IGNORE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 "JeWs WiLl NoT rEpLaCe Us......" 1 Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyasTaters Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 5 hours ago, Herodotus said: A year or so ago @TonyasTaters lamented, and rightly so I add, 450 Ukrainian children dying. Hell, he called me a war criminal supporter even when I posted UN Human Rights Commission figures that show Russia has only killed 9,600 some odd Civilians. See for yourself: https://www.ohchr.org/en/news/2023/09/ukraine-civilian-casualty-update-24-september-2023#_ftn1 Truly, a terrible amount of people and inexcusable. Its also why I hate war as in war no matter how hard you try to avoid it and Russia has certainly shown far more restraint than the "rules based" world order nations of the US and Britain are capable of (Iraqi civilian dead per year were at least 35,000 and maybe as much as half a million). Now Tony, Tonya, Bill, whatever, I agree 450 children dead and 10,000 civilian dead is a tragedy. So I ask you Tonya, what do you say about Israel's killing of Palestinian Children? Per the UN 160 children are being killed a day because of the current Israeli war. 10,000 people have died in two months and we may never know how many are dying because unlike Ukraine, nobody's propaganda organs has any real reason to keep track of civilian death. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/israeli-forces-cut-off-north-gaza-as-palestinian-death-toll-from-monthlong-war-passes-10000#:~:text=Casualties will likely rise on,Hamas that started the conflict. https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-11-1-2023-children-killed-4a352398b32887e60a658e0270f0a021 The loss of any human life is a tragedy. I feel horrible for the citizens of Gaza and it is a tragedy what has happened. Please remember Russia attacked Ukraine that's a fact and all trustworthy news outlets have proven that. You are not an expert therefore you lack the expertise to challenge that information. Hamas who is a terrorist organization in Gaza, who by the way were voted in as the government in charge attacked Israel. It's also worth noting prior to October 7th there was a seize fire. Guess who violated it? Hamas and they attacked families killing women and children even severing their heads off and placing them in ovens. Were the civilians of Israel given a chance to leave. NOPE! Isreal has given the Palestinians a chance but Hamas continues to hold them at gun point and use them as human shields. Btw why don't you ever talk about the 100's of Jews who are being held hostage? This is a very sad situation all around but yet again you defend the perpetrators. You fall for this as you think you are an expert but you are not and therefore lack the knowledge to determine who is right or wrong. You must rely on the experts and you will better understand the world we live in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishLass Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 "Trustworthy news outlets." So safe, so effective! Let's do 9/11 next. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikedLemonade Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 2 hours ago, IrishLass said: "Trustworthy news outlets." So safe, so effective! Let's do 9/11 next. GO FIST YOUR OWN ASSHOLE 1 Quote Do Your Part to Improve The Range -- Please put the TRIO OF TRUMP FLUFFERSTM on IGNORE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishLass Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 No poop photo? You are what you post. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herodotus Posted November 8 Author Share Posted November 8 6 hours ago, SpikedLemonade said: “But…but…but…but…the Jews are The Chosen People…” Ja, es ist all Deutsch zu mir. Ausenwahlter Volker oder Herrenrasse, warum geht es dir? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyasTaters Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 2 hours ago, IrishLass said: "Trustworthy news outlets." So safe, so effective! Let's do 9/11 next. What credentials do you have to challenge "Trustworthy news outlets". It's pretty simple you are an expert or you are not. Sorry that's how it works. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herodotus Posted November 8 Author Share Posted November 8 11 minutes ago, IrishLass said: No poop photo? You are what you Sie möchten ein Familienfoto Ihrer Familie? Warum sagst du dass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishLass Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 1 minute ago, TonyasTaters said: What credentials do you have to challenge "Trustworthy news outlets". It's pretty simple you are an expert or you are not. Sorry that's how it works. It's advisable for anyone to question the current brainwashing. If you don't recognize it as such, that's your issue. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herodotus Posted November 8 Author Share Posted November 8 1 minute ago, TonyasTaters said: What credentials do you have to challenge "Trustworthy news outlets". It's pretty simple you are an expert or you are not. Sorry that's how it works. du bist keine Experte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyasTaters Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 13 minutes ago, Herodotus said: du bist keine Experte. Bahaha! Why didn't you finish the PHD? No kids and a job you have time. You and I know why... The BS you spew here can't be done where you have to provide reliable sources. Especially when you have to defend your doctoral thesis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herodotus Posted November 8 Author Share Posted November 8 8 minutes ago, TonyasTaters said: Bahaha! Why didn't you finish the PHD? No kids and a job you have time. You and I know why... The BS you spew here can't be done where you have to provide reliable sources. Especially when you have to defend your doctoral thesis. Tell us about the kids you have Tonya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyasTaters Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 11 minutes ago, Herodotus said: Tell us about the kids you have Tonya. Yeah 2 kids middle school age a son and daughter. Kids play sports which keeps me busy. I am sure there will be a spin on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 1 hour ago, TonyasTaters said: What credentials do you have to challenge "Trustworthy news outlets". It's pretty simple you are an expert or you are not. Sorry that's how it works. Interesting. Truth is decided by "expert" opinion. What makes one an "expert"? Getting paid for one's opinions? Pros are experts and amateurs are fools by definition? When you want the truth, do you say "Find out what all the experts say so I know what opinions to believe!"? 2 Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyasTaters Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 1 minute ago, shiva2999 said: Interesting. Truth is decided by "expert" opinion. What makes one an "expert"? Getting paid for one's opinions? Pros are experts and amateurs are fools by definition? When you want the truth, do you say "Find out what all the experts say so I know what opinions to believe!"? That's why using proper sources matter. Yes the experts are experts for a reason. If your car breaks down do you drive to the movie studio to get it repaired. Come on now ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 1 minute ago, TonyasTaters said: That's why using proper sources matter. Yes the experts are experts for a reason. If your car breaks down do you drive to the movie studio to get it repaired. Come on now ... In 2002, all the "experts" said Iraq had WMDs. A million people died as a result. Use your fucking head. Qualifying someone as an "expert" is only a guide. It's not a guarantee of truth. After all, I'm sure the Spanish Inquisition considered themselves "experts". "An argument from authority, also called an appeal to authority, or argumentum ad verecundiam, is a form of argument in which the mere fact that an influential figure holds a certain position is used as evidence that the position itself is correct." Wikipedia Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyasTaters Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 10 minutes ago, shiva2999 said: In 2002, all the "experts" said Iraq had WMDs. A million people died as a result. Use your fucking head. Qualifying someone as an "expert" is only a guide. It's not a guarantee of truth. After all, I'm sure the Spanish Inquisition considered themselves "experts". "An argument from authority, also called an appeal to authority, or argumentum ad verecundiam, is a form of argument in which the mere fact that an influential figure holds a certain position is used as evidence that the position itself is correct." Wikipedia Not all experts agreed with WMD's. Remember the experts are human so they get things wrong. Like when you go to a doctor you get an opinion. You are waaaaay to black and white. The experts are often more right than wrong than say a lay person in a given topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 7 minutes ago, TonyasTaters said: Not all experts agreed with WMD's. Remember the experts are human so they get things wrong. Exactly. So, blowing off someone's considered opinion because they disagree with the "experts" is foolish, because expertise is only a guide, not a guarantee. 1 Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyasTaters Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 14 minutes ago, shiva2999 said: Exactly. So, blowing off someone's considered opinion because they disagree with the "experts" is foolish, because expertise is only a guide, not a guarantee. Yes but when someone takes a completely different approach or opinion they should have the expertise to do so. You and I are lay people when it comes to foreign policy. You or I don't have the specific knowledge to provide a substantial challenge. In court of laws they just don't bring in a random person to testify as an expert do they? No they don't. You have to provide credentials and experiences. You or I would not be considered an expert to testify in court as it pertains to foreign policy. You don't go to a contractor for a second opinion for a heart condition, you go to another doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikedLemonade Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 1 hour ago, TonyasTaters said: Yeah 2 kids middle school age a son and daughter. Kids play sports which keeps me busy. I am sure there will be a spin on this. None. You bore us. 1 Quote Do Your Part to Improve The Range -- Please put the TRIO OF TRUMP FLUFFERSTM on IGNORE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 14 minutes ago, TonyasTaters said: Yes but when someone takes a completely different approach or opinion they should have the expertise to do so. You and I are lay people when it comes to foreign policy. Speak for yourself. I've been doing this for 22 fucking years and I've been proven correct every time.. So, why am I disqualified from expert status whereas blonde bimbos and paid mouthpieces at CNN and MSNBC qualify? For fuck's sake, use your head. It's supposedly what we're here for. Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknaboz Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 3 minutes ago, shiva2999 said: Speak for yourself. I've been doing this for 22 fucking years and I've been proven correct every time.. So, why am I disqualified from expert status whereas blonde bimbos and paid mouthpieces at CNN and MSNBC qualify? For fuck's sake, use your head. It's supposedly what we're here for. Sure Sparky, you and Trump. lmfao Quote [/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 1 minute ago, micknaboz said: Sure Sparky, you and Trump. You're free to point out where I blotted my copybook... Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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