shiva2999 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 Just now, TonyasTaters said: Yes the credentialed media said so. Really? Where? Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyasTaters Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 Just now, shiva2999 said: Really? Where? Look it up... Try Google. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyasTaters Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 2 minutes ago, shiva2999 said: Really? Where? Here you go. https://www.brookings.edu/events/how-osama-bin-laden-escaped-afghanistan-lessons-for-future-counter-terrorism-missions/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 9 minutes ago, shiva2999 said: Excuse me? Sorry, but this is the bleating of a sheep. There is NO EVIDENCE that Bin Laden was ever in Afghanistan. None. Try again. And you know this how?? Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herodotus Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 39 minutes ago, HipKat said: There was no deal. You are the idiot here you sure? You sure? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_negotiations_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine https://www.intellinews.com/lavrov-confirms-ukraine-war-peace-deal-reached-last-april-but-then-abandoned-294217/#:~:text=In his New York speech,]%2C everything was already initialised. https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/09/02/diplomacy-watch-why-did-the-west-stop-a-peace-deal-in-ukraine/ I keep saying it, you aren't smart enough to try gaslighting me. So stop wasting your time and mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 Just now, Herodotus said: you sure? You sure? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_negotiations_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine https://www.intellinews.com/lavrov-confirms-ukraine-war-peace-deal-reached-last-april-but-then-abandoned-294217/#:~:text=In his New York speech,]%2C everything was already initialised. https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/09/02/diplomacy-watch-why-did-the-west-stop-a-peace-deal-in-ukraine/ I keep saying it, you aren't smart enough to try gaslighting me. So stop wasting your time and mine Ummm what does Ukraine have to do with Afghanistan and bin Laden? Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyasTaters Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 1 minute ago, Herodotus said: you sure? You sure? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_negotiations_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine https://www.intellinews.com/lavrov-confirms-ukraine-war-peace-deal-reached-last-april-but-then-abandoned-294217/#:~:text=In his New York speech,]%2C everything was already initialised. https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/09/02/diplomacy-watch-why-did-the-west-stop-a-peace-deal-in-ukraine/ I keep saying it, you aren't smart enough to try gaslighting me. So stop wasting your time and mine You are using bad non credentialed sources. You are a bank teller not a news source of an expert. That is why it is important you use credentialed sites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herodotus Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 Just now, HipKat said: Ummm what does Ukraine have to do with Afghanistan and bin Laden? Ummm, well since I was replying to you and you were talking about Ukraine I'd say its relevant. Dishonesty combined with playing stupid isn't a very good strategy here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herodotus Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 Just now, TonyasTaters said: You are using bad non credentialed sources. You are a bank teller not a news source of an expert. That is why it is important you use credentialed sites. Credentialed by whom? If I am a German in 1943, do I believe leaflets printed by the White Rose society or do I trust Der Angriff, Der Volkischer Beobachter and Die Deutsche Wochenschau? Also, should we really trust a media establishment controlled mainly by 6 large corporations and a social media where federal law allows for censorship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyasTaters Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 Just now, Herodotus said: Credentialed by whom? If I am a German in 1943, do I believe leaflets printed by the White Rose society or do I trust Der Angriff, Der Volkischer Beobachter and Die Deutsche Wochenschau? Also, should we really trust a media establishment controlled mainly by 6 large corporations and a social media where federal law allows for censorship? You are not an expert you can't verify information from an unreliable source. The sources we provide are trusted sources and credentialed. Yours aren't and you can't verify they are because you are just a guy. A bank teller with very limited knowledge or expertise in this area. I am sure you are a great bank teller so if I ever have a question about bank tellering I will be sure to come to you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 15 minutes ago, TonyasTaters said: Here you go. https://www.brookings.edu/events/how-osama-bin-laden-escaped-afghanistan-lessons-for-future-counter-terrorism-missions/ Did you actually read it? As far as I understand, Bin Laden was never seen ANYWHERE after 9/11 and there is NO EVIDENCE other than claims by the Americans that it was actually Bin Laden that they shot in Pakistan and then dumped in the ocean. Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyasTaters Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 3 minutes ago, shiva2999 said: Did you actually read it? As far as I understand, Bin Laden was never seen ANYWHERE after 9/11 and there is NO EVIDENCE other than claims by the Americans that it was actually Bin Laden that they shot in Pakistan and then dumped in the ocean. Yes... He was in Tora Bora. It well known and has been reported by credentialed resources. You don't have the credentials or expertise to challenge it. https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CPRT-111SPRT53709/html/CPRT-111SPRT53709.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 9 minutes ago, TonyasTaters said: You are not an expert you can't verify information from an unreliable source. The sources we provide are trusted sources and credentialed. LOL! God, what a fucking sheep you are. You're like a character from 1984. https://fourminutebooks.com/1984-quotes/ The 10 Most Popular Quotes From 1984 If you’re wondering what the most popular 1984 quotes are, here are the ten lines from the book with the highest number of votes on Goodreads, ranging from 15,000+ to 2,200+ votes. 1. “Perhaps one did not want to be loved so much as to be understood.” 2. “Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.” 3. “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” 4. “The best books… are those that tell you what you know already.” 5. “If you want to keep a secret, you must also hide it from yourself.” 6. “But if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought.” 7. “If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever.” 8. “We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness.” 9. “It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen.” 10. “Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one’s mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them.” 1 Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyasTaters Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 17 minutes ago, shiva2999 said: LOL! God, what a fucking sheep you are. You're like a character from 1984. https://fourminutebooks.com/1984-quotes/ The 10 Most Popular Quotes From 1984 If you’re wondering what the most popular 1984 quotes are, here are the ten lines from the book with the highest number of votes on Goodreads, ranging from 15,000+ to 2,200+ votes. 1. “Perhaps one did not want to be loved so much as to be understood.” 2. “Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.” 3. “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” 4. “The best books… are those that tell you what you know already.” 5. “If you want to keep a secret, you must also hide it from yourself.” 6. “But if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought.” 7. “If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever.” 8. “We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness.” 9. “It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen.” 10. “Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one’s mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them.” Lmao you have zero credibility. An assistant director is calling me a sheep. Lol just think that one through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIBills Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 18 minutes ago, TonyasTaters said: Lmao you have zero credibility. An assistant director is calling me a sheep. Lol just think that one through. I thought it was an assistant to an assistant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herodotus Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 1 hour ago, shiva2999 said: Did you actually read it? As far as I understand, Bin Laden was never seen ANYWHERE after 9/11 and there is NO EVIDENCE other than claims by the Americans that it was actually Bin Laden that they shot in Pakistan and then dumped in the ocean. Well, yes and no. He did several death to America vids up until about 2003. The first several featured him standing in front of sedimentary rock formations and so geologists kinda narrowed down where he was and they volunteered that info to the military. That's why his last several vids were in front of a blue sheet. My guess? Sometime late 2002 he moved to Pakistan for dialysis, and every intel agency from Islamabad to DC knew exactly where he was but did nothing. When did he die or is he dead? Well dialysis is literally a killer. Once you start that stuff you live at most 10 to 20 years. Someone in his condition? He may have been dead for years by the time Seal Team Six got there, or maybe he was never there, or maybe they're telling the truth. Really, who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 1 hour ago, TonyasTaters said: Yes the credentialed media said so. How can you say any difference. This isn't your area of expertise. I worked in show business. Bullshit IS my area of expertise. 2 Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herodotus Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 1 hour ago, TonyasTaters said: You are not an expert you can't verify information from an unreliable source. The sources we provide are trusted sources and credentialed. Yours aren't and you can't verify they are because you are just a guy. A bank teller with very limited knowledge or expertise in this area. I am sure you are a great bank teller so if I ever have a question about bank tellering I will be sure to come to you. What is your area of expertise, oh wait that's right, you sell overpriced medical equipment. Okay. Granted, in medical equipment I have no expertise, but in finding the truth and posting it well I have a very solid track record of being correct. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 2 minutes ago, Herodotus said: Well, yes and no. He did several death to America vids up until about 2003. The first several featured him standing in front of sedimentary rock formations and so geologists kinda narrowed down where he was and they volunteered that info to the military. That's why his last several vids were in front of a blue sheet. My guess? Sometime late 2002 he moved to Pakistan for dialysis, and every intel agency from Islamabad to DC knew exactly where he was but did nothing. When did he die or is he dead? Well dialysis is literally a killer. Once you start that stuff you live at most 10 to 20 years. Someone in his condition? He may have been dead for years by the time Seal Team Six got there, or maybe he was never there, or maybe they're telling the truth. Really, who knows. The photo ops and videos prove nothing. And I explained the nonsensical Pakistan "raid" before. It was a dog and pony show. 1 Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikedLemonade Posted November 5 Author Share Posted November 5 2 hours ago, Herodotus said: What is your area of expertise, oh wait that's right, you sell overpriced medical equipment. Okay. Granted, in medical equipment I have no expertise, but in finding the truth and posting it well I have a very solid track record of being correct. Those who have used those $600 bed pans claim that you can hear angels sing when you pee in them. Quote Do Your Part to Improve The Range -- Please put the TRIO OF TRUMP FLUFFERSTM on IGNORE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyasTaters Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 10 hours ago, LIBills said: I thought it was an assistant to an assistant. Trying to give him a ego boost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyasTaters Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 10 hours ago, Herodotus said: What is your area of expertise, oh wait that's right, you sell overpriced medical equipment. Okay. Granted, in medical equipment I have no expertise, but in finding the truth and posting it well I have a very solid track record of being correct. Again just a regular guy I have already said that. I am not pretending to be in expert in foreign relations. That's why it is important we get that information from reliable and credible sources. You have posted multiple long winded replies about issues you are not an expert in. Then you provide bad sources which you can't say are accurate because you don't have the expertise or credentials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyasTaters Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 7 hours ago, SpikedLemonade said: Those who have used those $600 bed pans claim that you can hear angels sing when you pee in them. You should see what our urine catheters could do. BUT wait there is more.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyasTaters Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 10 hours ago, shiva2999 said: The photo ops and videos prove nothing. And I explained the nonsensical Pakistan "raid" before. It was a dog and pony show. You do not have the expertise to challenge this. You are an assistant director by trade with zero credentials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 46 minutes ago, TonyasTaters said: You do not have the expertise to challenge this. You are an assistant director by trade with zero credentials. You joined the site last year. I joined the site two weeks after 9/11. The original political forum, PR&S, was created in 2002 by a reaction to ME writing about the wars in Afghanistan and the push for war with Iraq. When they instituted the Range Awards for best poster in each category, I ran away with the best political poster by landslides the first two years. The third year they had to rig the vote to let the title go to Aneinherjer, a milquetoast libertarian. I joined the Zone in 2003, after the breakaway right wing fools started a competing site. After a couple of years, they put me on what they called a "silent ban" where I could post but only the administration could read it. They wouldn't let the members read what I was saying but they could. Over my 22 years I've written literally MILLIONS OF WORDS IN TENS OF THOUSANDS OF THREADS trying to talk sense to arrogant American idiots. I've fought guys that worked for Air Force Intelligence, US Navy Intelligence and the CIA and they all ran away with their tails between their legs. And now after all that I still get know nothing American morons giving me attitude. And yet you think I give a shit about some self admitted dummy's's knee-jerk opinions? Please give your head a fucking shake. 2 Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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