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3 hours ago, HipKat said:

Kinda like claiming that Russia is annihilating Ukraine even though they haven't advanced in over a year?

We have covered this so many times before, but again what are the Russian aims

1. Denazify. Check 600K+ dead Ukes and 1.5 to 2 million wounded
2. Demilitarize.  In 2022 they destroyed the Ukrainian trained and Armed army, then they destroyed the NATO trained and Ukrainian equipped army.  In the counteroffensive they destroyed the NATO trained and armed army.  Check
3. Protect Russian sovereignty and stop the shelling of the Donbass.  Since the fighting near Adveeka the shelling of the Lugansk and Donetsk has largely ceased
Oh and Putin said that he had no territorial designs on Ukraine.  

See unlike the "rules based world order'' of the United Reich of Amerikkka which allows for the collateral damage of anywhere from 36,000 to over half a million Iraqis a year, Putin? The number of civilian dead is only about 10,000 and civilian injured and dead combined is 25,000.  You see blockhead, Russia is accomplishing its combat goal.  

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4 hours ago, shiva2999 said:

Did you watch any of this year'so Ryder Cup in Rome?

It looked like the course was built on top of one of those hills.

I'm sorry I don't watch golf.  Fun to play, but I just can't watch it.  I lack the attention span.

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7 hours ago, HipKat said:

Kinda like claiming that Russia is annihilating Ukraine even though they haven't advanced in over a year?

Nope. Nothing like it.

Sorry.

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4 hours ago, Herodotus said:

We have covered this so many times before, but again what are the Russian aims

1. Denazify. Check 600K+ dead Ukes and 1.5 to 2 million wounded

1, this is as stupid as saying Trump was the greatest President

2, your numbers have no more reliability than any other numbers out there that contradict these. And maybe less since you typically rely on Pro-Russian media for your sources

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The total number of Ukrainian and Russian troops killed or wounded since the war in Ukraine began 18 months ago is nearing 500,000, U.S. officials said, a staggering toll as Russia assaults its next-door neighbor and tries to seize more territory.

The officials cautioned that casualty figures remained difficult to estimate because Moscow is believed to routinely undercount its war dead and injured, and Kyiv does not disclose official figures. But they said the slaughter intensified this year in eastern Ukraine and has continued at a steady clip as a nearly three-month-old counteroffensive drags on.

Russia’s military casualties, the officials said, are approaching 300,000. The number includes as many as 120,000 deaths and 170,000 to 180,000 injured troops. The Russian numbers dwarf the Ukrainian figures, which the officials put at close to 70,000 killed and 100,000 to 120,000 wounded.

 

 

4 hours ago, Herodotus said:

2. Demilitarize.  In 2022 they destroyed the Ukrainian trained and Armed army, then they destroyed the NATO trained and Ukrainian equipped army.  In the counteroffensive they destroyed the NATO trained and armed army.  Check

Demilitarize means end the ability to sustain battle - obviously, the battle has not stopped

4 hours ago, Herodotus said:

3. Protect Russian sovereignty and stop the shelling of the Donbass.  Since the fighting near Adveeka the shelling of the Lugansk and Donetsk has largely ceased
Oh and Putin said that he had no territorial designs on Ukraine. 

It was RUSSIA that shelled Donbass, FFS

4 hours ago, Herodotus said:

See unlike the "rules based world order'' of the United Reich of Amerikkka which allows for the collateral damage of anywhere from 36,000 to over half a million Iraqis a year, Putin? The number of civilian dead is only about 10,000 and civilian injured and dead combined is 25,000.  You see blockhead, Russia is accomplishing its combat goal.  

Except Russia doesn't publish casualty numbers, dipshit

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Russia does not often publicize its own losses, and offers up only infrequent updates on what it claims to be the casualty count.

 

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A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production.

Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

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14 minutes ago, shiva2999 said:

Nope. Nothing like it.

Sorry.

A claim is a claim. Whether you agree with it or not doesn't change anything

Who said this again?

 

Sorry, but claims are just that.

Claims. Anybody can make a claim about anything.

The fact is in both a debate and in a court of law is a little thing called the burden of proof.

You are making a claim just based on a story.

 

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A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production.

Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

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14 minutes ago, HipKat said:

A claim is a claim. Whether you agree with it or not doesn't change anything

Who said this again?

 

Sorry, but claims are just that.

Claims. Anybody can make a claim about anything.

The fact is in both a debate and in a court of law is a little thing called the burden of proof.

You are making a claim just based on a story.

 

I have never claimed Russia is annihilating Ukraine.

If Russia wanted to annihilate Ukraine this conflict would have been over a long time ago.

"The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

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On 10/28/2023 at 6:59 AM, shiva2999 said:

Of the 9.6 million Israelis in Israel proper, 2.0 million are Israeli Arabs and 500,000 are neither Jewish nor Arab. If they and the West Bank settlers voted alongside their fellow 5.1 million Arabs in Gaza and the West Bank in a unified Israeli-Palestinian state, there would be 7.6 million Jews almost tied with 7.1 million Arabs.

Too much democracy.

On the other hand, 5.1 million Palestinian citizens of their own viable nation-state in a two-state scenario would present a different problem. The Republic of Palestine would have a seat at the United Nations, embassies and consulates all over the world, foreign news bureaus. Journalists and tourists could freely come and go. Palestinian citizens would talk. They’d complain, even about Israel. I mean, they do that now — but people might pay attention and — God forbid — care!

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12 minutes ago, SpikedLemonade said:

Dropping enormous Bunker Busters on apartments in a refugee camp will quickly turn world opinion — not just Arab — against you.

Israel told them to leave and have been for months. I feel for the Palestinians and their families. Unfortunately the Israelis were not given an option and had their heads chopped off in their own home. 

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On 10/31/2023 at 4:47 AM, HipKat said:

1, this is as stupid as saying Trump was the greatest President

2, your numbers have no more reliability than any other numbers out there that contradict these. And maybe less since you typically rely on Pro-Russian media for your sources

 

Demilitarize means end the ability to sustain battle - obviously, the battle has not stopped

It was RUSSIA that shelled Donbass, FFS

Except Russia doesn't publish casualty numbers, dipshit

 

My numbers come from the BBC.  Not exactly known for being a pro Russian source.  You are terrible at this game.  Also, show me where in this war I have been wrong.

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1 hour ago, thinwhiteduke said:

Shut the fuck up. You do anything like that again and you better get another month ban.

 

I launched a beauty after lunch that had your name on it.

A picture is worth 10,000 words….

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35 minutes ago, SpikedLemonade said:

I launched a beauty after lunch that had your name on it.

A picture is worth 10,000 words….

I just had a great idea.

Take some chocolate ice cream and mold it to look like a medium sized turd, coat it with peanut bits, put it on a stick and voila...

Poopsicles!

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http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

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1 minute ago, shiva2999 said:

I just had a great idea.

Take some chocolate ice cream and mold it to look like a medium sized turd, coat it with peanut bits, put it on a stick and voila...

Poopsicles!

That is a multi million dollar idea.

Is the plan to sell it to right wing retarded carnival attendees in the Bible Belt?

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