Oh, about those supposedly "beheaded" babies...

[shiva2999]

https://thegrayzone.com/2023/10/11/beheaded-israeli-babies-settler-wipe-out-palestinian/

 

Source of dubious ‘beheaded babies’ claim is Israeli settler leader who incited riots to ‘wipe out’ Palestinian village

MAX BLUMENTHAL AND ALEXANDER RUBINSTEIN·OCTOBER 11, 2023

 

After an Israeli reserve soldier named David Ben Zion told a reporter Palestinian militants “cut [off] heads of babies,” Biden, Netanyahu, and the international media amplified the dubious claim.

The Grayzone has identified Ben Zion as a fanatical settler leader who incited riots by demanding a Palestinian town be “wiped out.”

An international outcry erupted when Israel’s Foreign Ministry announced that Palestinian militants from the besieged Gaza Strip had killed 40 “babies,” and beheaded several of them during an incursion into Kfar Aza, a kibbutz on the Gaza border. President Joseph Biden repeated the inflammatory claim during an October 10 White House Rose Garden address, while networks across the West carried the story without a shred of critical scrutiny.

According to CNN correspondent Nic Robertson, apparently citing Israeli military sources, Palestinian militants carried out, “ISIS-style executions,” in which they were “cutting the heads off of people,” including babies and pets. 

The Grayzone has now identified a key source of the claim that Palestinian militants beheaded Israeli babies. He is David Ben Zion, a Deputy Commander of Unit 71 of the Israeli army who also happens to be an extremist settler leader who incited violent riots against Palestinians in the occupied West Bank earlier this year.

In an October 10 interview with reporter Nicole Zedek of the Israeli state-sponsored i24 network, Ben Zion stated, “We walked door to door, we killed a lot of terrorists. They are very bad. They cut heads of children, they cut heads of women. But we are stronger than them.” 

He added, “We know that they are animals,” referring to Palestinians, “but we found that they don’t have any heart.”

 

could be seen repeatedly grinning ear-to-ear in a video posted to his Facebook – an odd disposition for a supposed witness to the methodical butchering of babies.

Earlier that day, i24’s Zedek declared during a live report from Kfar Aza, “About 40 babies were taken out on gurneys… Cribs overturned, strollers left behind, doors left wide open.’” Zedek’s report has been viewed tens of millions of times on Twitter and promoted by Israel’s Foreign Ministry – which underwrites her network.

Hours later, she qualified her statement, stating, “Soldiers told me they believe 40 babies/children were killed. The exact death toll is still unknown as the military continues to go house to house and find more Israeli casualties.”

Yet the unverified tale quickly made its way to the highest levels of leadership, as if by design. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s spokesman stated unequivocally that babies and toddlers were found with their “heads decapitated,” while President Joe Biden himself vaguely gestured towards “stomach-churning reports of babies being killed.”

Likewise, cable news has flown into a frenzy, breathlessly reporting the story despite the IDF walking back its initial confirmation.

Meanwhile, some reporters who initially carried the official Israeli allegations about beheaded babies began issuing qualifications of their own.

Oren Ziv, an Israeli reporter who joined the military’s official tour of Kfar Aza, commented on Twitter, “I’m getting a lot of question about the reports of ‘Hamas beheaded babies’ that were published after the media tour in the village. During the tour we didn’t see any evidence of this, and the army spokesperson or commanders also didn’t mention any such incidents.”

So who is the source behind the explosive claim? 

....more...

 

Guess who?

 

 

[TonyasTaters]

Just now, shiva2999 said:

https://thegrayzone.com/2023/10/11/beheaded-israeli-babies-settler-wipe-out-palestinian/

 

Source of dubious ‘beheaded babies’ claim is Israeli settler leader who incited riots to ‘wipe out’ Palestinian village

MAX BLUMENTHAL AND ALEXANDER RUBINSTEIN·OCTOBER 11, 2023

 

After an Israeli reserve soldier named David Ben Zion told a reporter Palestinian militants “cut [off] heads of babies,” Biden, Netanyahu, and the international media amplified the dubious claim.

The Grayzone has identified Ben Zion as a fanatical settler leader who incited riots by demanding a Palestinian town be “wiped out.”

An international outcry erupted when Israel’s Foreign Ministry announced that Palestinian militants from the besieged Gaza Strip had killed 40 “babies,” and beheaded several of them during an incursion into Kfar Aza, a kibbutz on the Gaza border. President Joseph Biden repeated the inflammatory claim during an October 10 White House Rose Garden address, while networks across the West carried the story without a shred of critical scrutiny.

According to CNN correspondent Nic Robertson, apparently citing Israeli military sources, Palestinian militants carried out, “ISIS-style executions,” in which they were “cutting the heads off of people,” including babies and pets. 

The Grayzone has now identified a key source of the claim that Palestinian militants beheaded Israeli babies. He is David Ben Zion, a Deputy Commander of Unit 71 of the Israeli army who also happens to be an extremist settler leader who incited violent riots against Palestinians in the occupied West Bank earlier this year.

In an October 10 interview with reporter Nicole Zedek of the Israeli state-sponsored i24 network, Ben Zion stated, “We walked door to door, we killed a lot of terrorists. They are very bad. They cut heads of children, they cut heads of women. But we are stronger than them.” 

He added, “We know that they are animals,” referring to Palestinians, “but we found that they don’t have any heart.”

 

could be seen repeatedly grinning ear-to-ear in a video posted to his Facebook – an odd disposition for a supposed witness to the methodical butchering of babies.

Earlier that day, i24’s Zedek declared during a live report from Kfar Aza, “About 40 babies were taken out on gurneys… Cribs overturned, strollers left behind, doors left wide open.’” Zedek’s report has been viewed tens of millions of times on Twitter and promoted by Israel’s Foreign Ministry – which underwrites her network.

Hours later, she qualified her statement, stating, “Soldiers told me they believe 40 babies/children were killed. The exact death toll is still unknown as the military continues to go house to house and find more Israeli casualties.”

Yet the unverified tale quickly made its way to the highest levels of leadership, as if by design. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s spokesman stated unequivocally that babies and toddlers were found with their “heads decapitated,” while President Joe Biden himself vaguely gestured towards “stomach-churning reports of babies being killed.”

Likewise, cable news has flown into a frenzy, breathlessly reporting the story despite the IDF walking back its initial confirmation.

Meanwhile, some reporters who initially carried the official Israeli allegations about beheaded babies began issuing qualifications of their own.

Oren Ziv, an Israeli reporter who joined the military’s official tour of Kfar Aza, commented on Twitter, “I’m getting a lot of question about the reports of ‘Hamas beheaded babies’ that were published after the media tour in the village. During the tour we didn’t see any evidence of this, and the army spokesperson or commanders also didn’t mention any such incidents.”

So who is the source behind the explosive claim? 

....more...

 

Guess who?

 

 

Antisemitism at is finest. Trying to conspire to delagtimize  the Jews with fake news. Typical antisemitic ploy. Nice try!

[RichJ]

28 minutes ago, shiva2999 said:

https://thegrayzone.com/2023/10/11/beheaded-israeli-babies-settler-wipe-out-palestinian/

 

Source of dubious ‘beheaded babies’ claim is Israeli settler leader who incited riots to ‘wipe out’ Palestinian village

MAX BLUMENTHAL AND ALEXANDER RUBINSTEIN·OCTOBER 11, 2023

 

After an Israeli reserve soldier named David Ben Zion told a reporter Palestinian militants “cut [off] heads of babies,” Biden, Netanyahu, and the international media amplified the dubious claim.

The Grayzone has identified Ben Zion as a fanatical settler leader who incited riots by demanding a Palestinian town be “wiped out.”

An international outcry erupted when Israel’s Foreign Ministry announced that Palestinian militants from the besieged Gaza Strip had killed 40 “babies,” and beheaded several of them during an incursion into Kfar Aza, a kibbutz on the Gaza border. President Joseph Biden repeated the inflammatory claim during an October 10 White House Rose Garden address, while networks across the West carried the story without a shred of critical scrutiny.

According to CNN correspondent Nic Robertson, apparently citing Israeli military sources, Palestinian militants carried out, “ISIS-style executions,” in which they were “cutting the heads off of people,” including babies and pets. 

The Grayzone has now identified a key source of the claim that Palestinian militants beheaded Israeli babies. He is David Ben Zion, a Deputy Commander of Unit 71 of the Israeli army who also happens to be an extremist settler leader who incited violent riots against Palestinians in the occupied West Bank earlier this year.

In an October 10 interview with reporter Nicole Zedek of the Israeli state-sponsored i24 network, Ben Zion stated, “We walked door to door, we killed a lot of terrorists. They are very bad. They cut heads of children, they cut heads of women. But we are stronger than them.” 

He added, “We know that they are animals,” referring to Palestinians, “but we found that they don’t have any heart.”

 

could be seen repeatedly grinning ear-to-ear in a video posted to his Facebook – an odd disposition for a supposed witness to the methodical butchering of babies.

Earlier that day, i24’s Zedek declared during a live report from Kfar Aza, “About 40 babies were taken out on gurneys… Cribs overturned, strollers left behind, doors left wide open.’” Zedek’s report has been viewed tens of millions of times on Twitter and promoted by Israel’s Foreign Ministry – which underwrites her network.

Hours later, she qualified her statement, stating, “Soldiers told me they believe 40 babies/children were killed. The exact death toll is still unknown as the military continues to go house to house and find more Israeli casualties.”

Yet the unverified tale quickly made its way to the highest levels of leadership, as if by design. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s spokesman stated unequivocally that babies and toddlers were found with their “heads decapitated,” while President Joe Biden himself vaguely gestured towards “stomach-churning reports of babies being killed.”

Likewise, cable news has flown into a frenzy, breathlessly reporting the story despite the IDF walking back its initial confirmation.

Meanwhile, some reporters who initially carried the official Israeli allegations about beheaded babies began issuing qualifications of their own.

Oren Ziv, an Israeli reporter who joined the military’s official tour of Kfar Aza, commented on Twitter, “I’m getting a lot of question about the reports of ‘Hamas beheaded babies’ that were published after the media tour in the village. During the tour we didn’t see any evidence of this, and the army spokesperson or commanders also didn’t mention any such incidents.”

So who is the source behind the explosive claim? 

....more...

 

Guess who?

 

 

Keep trying. Only 3rd world brains will believe the Israelis are the bad guys. 

[shiva2999]

29 minutes ago, RichJ said:

Keep trying. Only 3rd world brains will believe the Israelis are the bad guys. 

Israelis (Jews), unlike every other religious classification on the planet, are incapable of ever doing anything wrong?

And it seems to be an appropriate time to mention again the Palestinians had nothing to do with the Holocaust or any type of particular anti-semitism.

They only had their land stolen for Europe's sins and given to Jews to pay for them.

A perfect example of "sucks to be you!"

[thinwhiteduke]

 

 

[SpikedLemonade]

9 hours ago, TonyasTaters said:

Antisemitism at is finest. Trying to conspire to delagtimize  the Jews with fake news. Typical antisemitic ploy. Nice try!

You are a Fuckin’ RETARD.

You don’t even know what that word means.

Go sell an overpriced bed pan to a hospital you flea.

[TonyasTaters]

3 hours ago, SpikedLemonade said:

You are a Fuckin’ RETARD.

You don’t even know what that word means.

Go sell an overpriced bed pan to a hospital you flea.

Lmao oversized bed pan lmao.... That is a good one. 

[RichJ]

14 hours ago, shiva2999 said:

Israelis (Jews), unlike every other religious classification on the planet, are incapable of ever doing anything wrong?

And it seems to be an appropriate time to mention again the Palestinians had nothing to do with the Holocaust or any type of particular anti-semitism.

They only had their land stolen for Europe's sins and given to Jews to pay for them.

A perfect example of "sucks to be you!"

no. Jews are fallible. No one ever claimed that they were perfect.  But in this war. they have been attacked by Hamas. 

Bringing in the Holocaust is a deflection.

Their land? It wasnt their land to begin with.  It has always historically been the land of the Jews which they were ok with making it in to a 2 state and the Palestinians said yes and then backed out. 

Israel will  lose some battles here and the4re but they will win the war in the middle East. Maybe you'll be around to see it . Unfortunately for you, it will be a very bad trip. 

[RichJ]

3 hours ago, TonyasTaters said:

Lmao oversized bed pan lmao.... That is a good one. 

he wants to buy one for himself. 

[RichJ]

[shiva2999]

6 minutes ago, RichJ said:

no. Jews are fallible. No one ever claimed that they were perfect.  But in this war. they have been attacked by Hamas. 

Bringing in the Holocaust is a deflection.

 

You're doing the same stupid thing you're doing with Ukraine.

Insisting history begins on a certain date.

The facts are as I've stated.

The Palestinians were there and had been for a long time.

The Jews weren't.

Insisting it was just to take Palestine away from the Palestinians to pay for the sins of Europe, merely because the Jews had once lived there is patently absurd. 

[shiva2999]

3 minutes ago, RichJ said:

"If you don't support Israel you want to kill this baby, you bad person you!"

[RichJ]

1 minute ago, shiva2999 said:

You're doing the same stupid thing you're doing with Ukraine.

Insisting history begins on a certain date.

The facts are as I've stated.

The Palestinians were there and had been for a long time.

The Jews weren't.

Insisting it was just to take Palestine away from the Palestinians to pay for the sins of Europe, merely because the Jews had once lived there is patently absurd. 

Ukraine ? LOL. You're stoned so early in the morning. I have not even taken any sides with Ukraine and Russia. They can wipe each other out for all I care. They are both like if Hamas were to fight Hezbollah. I hope they wipe each other out. 

Israel throughout history has changed hands. 1948 was just another part of history and you're crying about it because the Jews defeated allied forces and took it back. Now you're crying about them going after hamas. 

[RichJ]

4 minutes ago, shiva2999 said:

"If you don't support Israel you want to kill this baby, you bad person you!"

the brain of a pothead. 

Keep supporting hamas. Bring in the ground forces  so you'll have more bad trips.

[shiva2999]

6 minutes ago, RichJ said:

Ukraine ? LOL. You're stoned so early in the morning. I have not even taken any sides with Ukraine and Russia.

I was referring to the American power structure.

Whether you personally agree with it is irrelevant.

It's the same trick.

[RichJ]

Just now, shiva2999 said:

I was referring to the American power structure.

Whether you personally agree with it is irrelevant.

It's the same trick.

since you ahvent been sober for decades I'll take it easy on you. You obviously missed the part where i dont like Biden and the Obama machine abd the decisions they make. I'm neither in the US nor the Russians side on the Ukraine war.  Biden is protecting his money laundere and needs to stop sending money to them. 

[shiva2999]

8 minutes ago, RichJ said:

the brain of a pothead. 

Keep supporting hamas. Bring in the ground forces  so you'll have more bad trips.

Yawn.

For 22 years it's never ceased to amaze me how many Americans are willing to be stupid for their team.

You're smarter than this.

Where does it get you to intentionally be an idiot buying into your government's baloney?

Is that your definition of patriotism?

My country, right or wrong?

[RichJ]

4 minutes ago, shiva2999 said:

Yawn.

For 22 years it's never ceased to amaze me how many Americans are willing to be stupid for their team.

You're smarter than this.

Where does it get you to intentionally be an idiot buying into your government's baloney?

Is that your definition of patriotism?

My country, right or wrong?

LOL.  I havent bought into this government when the  3 headed monsters in Obama , Hilary and Biden were in power  which is why a reluctantly had to vote  Trump.  I was hoping an idiot like him could maybe do better and he did. 

Try again. 

[shiva2999]

2 minutes ago, RichJ said:

since you ahvent been sober for decades I'll take it easy on you. You obviously missed the part where i dont like Biden and the Obama machine abd the decisions they make. I'm neither in the US nor the Russians side on the Ukraine war.  Biden is protecting his money laundere and needs to stop sending money to them. 

See? There's hope for you yet.

So, what makes you believe the "war" in Ukraine has no good guys, but the war between Israel and Hamas is a conflict between the evil Muslims and the virtuous Israelis?

[shiva2999]

2 minutes ago, RichJ said:

LOL.  I havent bought into this government when the  3 headed monsters in Obama , Hilary and Biden were in power  which is why a reluctantly had to vote  Trump.  I was hoping an idiot like him could maybe do better and he did. 

Try again. 

So why are you supporting Biden now that he's completely lost his mind?

[RichJ]

2 minutes ago, shiva2999 said:

See? There's hope for you yet.

So, what makes you believe the "war" in Ukraine has no good guys, but the war between Israel and Hamas is a conflict between the evil Muslims and the virtuous Israelis?

one group is INTENTIONALLY burning/kidnapping, raping , killing women and children.  This to me isnt a war about Israel vs. Palestine. As a matter of fact, Palestinians are victims of terrorists.  Only idiots are making it about Palestinains when IN FACT their leaders are the one who use them as pawns /human shields.   

[RichJ]

3 minutes ago, shiva2999 said:

So why are you supporting Biden now that he's completely lost his mind?

He's an idiot who is against Hamas and what they did to innocent woem and children. " The enemy of my enemy is my friend " so to speak in this instance.

[shiva2999]

4 minutes ago, RichJ said:

one group is INTENTIONALLY burning/kidnapping, raping , killing women and children.  This to me isnt a war about Israel vs. Palestine. As a matter of fact, Palestinians are victims of terrorists.  Only idiots are making it about Palestinains when IN FACT their leaders are the one who use them as pawns /human shields.   

If Hamas is so evil, why do the Palestinians support them?

Why not rat them out to the Israelis instead?

[RichJ]

1 minute ago, shiva2999 said:

If Hamas is so evil, why do the Palestinians support them?

Why not rat them out to the Israelis instead?

They are scared of the evil regime funded by Iran.

If Israel is so evil, why do Muslims still live in Israel and Palestinians also work and live there? 

 

 

[shiva2999]

4 minutes ago, RichJ said:

He's an idiot who is against Hamas and what they did to innocent woem and children. " The enemy of my enemy is my friend " so to speak in this instance.

So, Biden's, and your ethics are flexible according to who benefits?