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For all those people bitching about Ken Dorsey on this one…..have you thought of this…

maybe he (or McDermott told Dorsey) to run that play because they were terrified that Allen was going to fuck up and cost them game? Maybe they were like ‘oh shit Josh is gonna try to get all this back…get the ball out of his hands…run it!’
 

People who know waaaay more football than us combined say Dorsey called a pretty good game…dudes were open underneath all night…Allen said fuck it and threw it up. 
 

With that being said…the more and more Allen is away from Daboll, the more and more he will regress. I think the Bills offense will eventually become average…at best. It won’t be top 10 anymore maybe not even top 15. 

 

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3 hours ago, seandelevan said:

For all those people bitching about Ken Dorsey on this one…..have you thought of this…

maybe he (or McDermott told Dorsey) to run that play because they were terrified that Allen was going to fuck up and cost them game? Maybe they were like ‘oh shit Josh is gonna try to get all this back…get the ball out of his hands…run it!’
 

People who know waaaay more football than us combined say Dorsey called a pretty good game…dudes were open underneath all night…Allen said fuck it and threw it up. 
 

With that being said…the more and more Allen is away from Daboll, the more and more he will regress. I think the Bills offense will eventually become average…at best. It won’t be top 10 anymore maybe not even top 15. 

 

That was a terrible call. Try and win the game at least.

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5 hours ago, seandelevan said:

For all those people bitching about Ken Dorsey on this one…..have you thought of this…

maybe he (or McDermott told Dorsey) to run that play because they were terrified that Allen was going to fuck up and cost them game? Maybe they were like ‘oh shit Josh is gonna try to get all this back…get the ball out of his hands…run it!’
 

People who know waaaay more football than us combined say Dorsey called a pretty good game…dudes were open underneath all night…Allen said fuck it and threw it up. 
 

With that being said…the more and more Allen is away from Daboll, the more and more he will regress. I think the Bills offense will eventually become average…at best. It won’t be top 10 anymore maybe not even top 15. 

 

If that was true Sean they would've also run on 1st and 3rd down. It was a bad call and that's it. 

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14 hours ago, LIBills said:

When it comes to overtime games, the Bills have been TERRIBLE.

Doesn't matter what is being called, they just have NO CLUE, as a team, how to perform in overtime.

I think Josh is 0-5 in over time games. Off the top of my head

1. Houston playoff game. A choke job. McD coaches pussy ball the entire 2nd half and it showed. We had the W in the bag until the fucking refs called a non existent penalty on Cody Ford that knocked us out of fg range. Honorable moment of the game. 3rd and 18. 

 

2. Tampa game. We played like shit only to come back roaring and send into OT where we folded like lawn chairs. The D in particular. A McD specialty. 

 

3. 13 seconds. Nothing to add here

 

4. Vikings game last year. This one is about 90% on Josh Allen and 10% on Cam Lewis. 

 

5. Jets on Monday. 100% on Allen. 

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23 hours ago, Victor7 said:

I think Josh is 0-5 in over time games. Off the top of my head

1. Houston playoff game. A choke job. McD coaches pussy ball the entire 2nd half and it showed. We had the W in the bag until the fucking refs called a non existent penalty on Cody Ford that knocked us out of fg range. Honorable moment of the game. 3rd and 18. 

 

2. Tampa game. We played like shit only to come back roaring and send into OT where we folded like lawn chairs. The D in particular. A McD specialty. 

 

3. 13 seconds. Nothing to add here

 

4. Vikings game last year. This one is about 90% on Josh Allen and 10% on Cam Lewis. 

 

5. Jets on Monday. 100% on Allen. 

(Vic, though this reply start off to you, the majority of this disappointment is spread out to all, including someone who really surprised me)

This is not one of your best works, Vic.  I have not read enough to see if anyone has posted that ESPN said this latest OT's  runback should have been callled back...heck, even @JT of all people called it at the time.

Even worse, is your description of Tampa Bay.  That game had Allen delivering the final pass of regulation to Diggs in the end zone, if not for the defender whom youve had ample, ample, ample time to see the handful of jersey still shots, no?  And if the "fold" is the opposite treatment on the call against Levi Wallace where if therewas any contact it was far less. well then so be it.

 

I originally wrote a very lengthy post to this when the actual non-crypto Pats troll wrote it.  I sincerely thanked him for not hiding his affiliation, and being proud of his team.  I was considering asking if Hipkat posted half as much shit talk on the Pats board as he did here, when I recalled the only way we found out about Hiphat's last birthday was seeing Pats fans on their board wishing it to him due to someone posting the link here(lol).  Somehow I have the feeling Brewman stayed more true to his team in terms of posting on another teams board, as nobody is wishing that SOB a happy birthday here.  I even managed to get in kind words for @FinNasty and @nyjunc by comparison, and of course @BostonTim who was true to his team but by far the classiest act of them all.

 

And about the draw, I hesitate to say this because Lit unexpectedly chose this of everything to jump in on, but it seems like some of you are pretending you haven't watched football and not seen draws chew up easy yardage when a pass is expected.  Apparently it was used enough by Jim and Thurman that Tecmo Super Bowl even included it as one of their limited number of plays.  Now I am not saying anything about this particular one other than calling outhyperbole, and that the hyperbole wouldn't have been used if the 20/20 hindsight had a different outcome.   I think I expressed my frustration with that practice while remaining respectful, and mindful of honesty based on years of observation of both football and of posts on here.  Though as @daryls61 pointing out with all those who soiled themselves on here with their Matt Araiza posts, even after we provided them additional information, honesty and accuracy to some on here don't seem to be as important as the narrative you intend to promote, so I'll add that to my observations regarding  your hyperbolic hindsights,

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He was definitely getting too cute on that one I assume he figured it's the last play they'll expect and try to claw back some yardage to make 3rd down more manageable. Except the Jets' defense is extraordinarily disciplined and wouldn't fall for that garbage which he should have known after getting schooled all game by them.

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On 9/13/2023 at 3:32 AM, seandelevan said:

For all those people bitching about Ken Dorsey on this one…..have you thought of this…

maybe he (or McDermott told Dorsey) to run that play because they were terrified that Allen was going to fuck up and cost them game? Maybe they were like ‘oh shit Josh is gonna try to get all this back…get the ball out of his hands…run it!’
 

People who know waaaay more football than us combined say Dorsey called a pretty good game…dudes were open underneath all night…Allen said fuck it and threw it up. 
 

With that being said…the more and more Allen is away from Daboll, the more and more he will regress. I think the Bills offense will eventually become average…at best. It won’t be top 10 anymore maybe not even top 15. 

 

New TE dump off guy when receivers covered?. Why is Josh having to hoi the ball so long with no blocking?

 

 

 

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