Who would you rather be: The Buffalo Bills or Cincinnati Bengals?

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Who would you rather be: The Buffalo Bills or Cincinnati Bengals?

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[seandelevan]

Bengals. 
 

offensive head coach and 3 top notch receivers to help their franchise qb who imo isn’t anything THAT special. 
 

Put Allen in that situation he has one maybe two superbowls by now.

[daryls61]

1 hour ago, seandelevan said:

Bengals. 
 

offensive head coach and 3 top notch receivers to help their franchise qb who imo isn’t anything THAT special. 
 

Put Allen in that situation he has one maybe two superbowls by now.

Wow, even after the offseason of Sean? Didn't think you would realize you have no idea how to build a modern NFL team so soon.

They better be improves this year or I will be unleashing the Boom on Sean regularly.

[Greg]

2 hours ago, seandelevan said:

Bengals. 
 

offensive head coach and 3 top notch receivers to help their franchise qb who imo isn’t anything THAT special. 
 

Put Allen in that situation he has one maybe two superbowls by now.

You don't trust coach McChokesintheplayoffseveryyear. I would have canned him after 13 seconds. But my opinion doesn't mean shit. Terry is the only one who counts, and he likes him.

[Sucked In Again]

Definitely rather be Bengals since Bills have McDumbTwit. 

[bv]

Id say the Bengals for the coaching alone

[Greg]

Just like the Bills the Bengals are in a really tough division. All 4 teams hate each other, and I could see the Ravens challenging them for the North. The Steelers and Browns will be tough to beat as well.

[thinwhiteduke]

Who's been to SB?

And he barely took that long like Marino.

 

[thinwhiteduke]

The quiet 50th anniversary of OJs record season..might be bad luck for Bills this year

[HipKat]

The Bengals and Bills have found themselves inexplicably linked over the last decade. Andy Dalton and Tyler Boyd miraculously sent Buffalo to the playoffs for the first time in a bazillion years. Bills fans responded, pouring nearly a million dollars into Dalton’s foundation.

The two small-market franchises repeatedly swapped pedestrian players from Cordy Glenn to Bobby Hart, Ryan Fitzpatrick to Matt Barkley. Yet neither club was good enough at the same time — over nearly two decades and despite being in the same conference — to meet in a single meaningful game between 1989 and last season.

Then, on Jan. 2, in a Monday night event many thought could be the AFC Championship preview, a moment neither franchise will forget, sharing a field when Damar Hamlin fell to the ground at the 47-yard line, both training staffs rushing forward and the University of Cincinnati medical staff eventually completing the job to save his life.

Yet, the connection looks to go much deeper for the foreseeable future. With Josh Allen and Joe Burrow in command of teams still seeking their first Lombardi Trophies, both organizations are more than capable of finally capturing that ultimate prize.

They met in Orchard Park in the divisional round last year, a 27-10 Cincinnati victory that shipped the preseason Super Bowl favorite reeling into the offseason and Cincinnati to the precipice of a second consecutive AFC title before falling in Kansas City.

The question we lay out: Who would you rather be for now and for the next three years?

Quarterback

Bengals 

Burrow did in three years what many rightfully doubted could ever be done in Cincinnati. He changed the culture and turned the Bengals into one of the premier franchises in the NFL. He’s won five playoff games in the last two years, equaling the total from the previous 53 years of the organization’s existence. He’s already the franchise’s single-season leader in passing yards, touchdowns, passer rating and 300-yard games. Including the playoffs, he’s been PFF’s top-graded quarterback for two consecutive seasons. He won in 2021, eviscerating teams with the deep ball at a league-leading 8.9 yards per attempt. Then, as defenses bombarded him with two high safeties last year to take that away, he morphed into a precision king, leading a top-five offense by mastering the underneath and check-down throws and dropping his sack rate dramatically. It’s not just that Burrow has been great on the field or revolutionary off it, it’s that he’s still evolving. The defining drive for the Lombardi is the lone box that remains unchecked.

Bills

Burrow is scintillating, but “Madden NFL 24” cover boy Josh Allen might be the best quarterback not named Patrick Mahomes, with a dual-threat ability everybody else covets. Neither the jukiest nor the fastest, he is Buffalo’s best runner, and at about 240 pounds punishes defenders. Allen owns a surface-to-air missile of an arm. His biggest college question — accuracy — has been long answered. He also has been sensational against Kansas City. In five career games, all but one at Arrowhead Stadium and including two in the postseason, he has completed 62.4 percent for an average of 276 yards, with 14 TDs and only two interceptions. Take away victory formation kneel-downs, and he has averaged 6.8 yards per rush with a TD and 24 first downs. And that’s the biggest issue with Allen overall: his aggressive style, which makes Bills fans hold their breath every time he tries to extend a play. A significant injury always has seemed one hit away, something with which Bengals fans can sympathize. Allen’s play after partially tearing the UCL in his throwing elbow last year dropped him from MVP favorite to mere Pro Bowler.

Non-QB talent

Bengals

Dominant passing attacks win games and nobody can boast a receiving corps better than the Bengals. Ja’Marr Chase, Tee Higgins and Tyler Boyd all bring unique skill sets and can each take over a game if given the chance. The question for the next three years will be what the evolution looks like at the position with Higgins and Boyd both in contract years. The offensive line might not be elite but is full of proven pieces, notably stable and, outside of right tackle Jonah Williams, all under contract for multiple years. The defense has always been stronger than the sum of its parts, but that’s not for lack of stars. DJ Reader, Trey Hendrickson, Logan Wilson and Chidobe Awuzie have all produced as top-10 players at their positions. The pipeline has been stocked at premium positions. The last seven Day 1 and 2 draft picks have all been defensive players and only two are starters. Energetic depth with a pedigree — and a pipeline to the future — exists everywhere.

Bills

Pro Bowl honors don’t mean what they used to, but they still help highlight a team’s upper-echelon talent level. Buffalo had seven last year who are still on the roster: Allen, receiver Stefon Diggs, tight end Dawson Knox, left tackle Dion Dawkins, center Mitch Morse, safety Jordan Poyer and All-Pro linebacker Matt Milano. Top cornerback Tre’Davious White, a former All-Pro, should be back to full speed after returning last November from a reconstructed knee, while safety Micah Hyde is back from a neck injury that ended last season at two games. That’s as decorated of a defensive backfield as Mahomes will face, but Buffalo’s main problem has been pressuring him. As last year’s supposed Mahomes-stopper, future Hall of Famer Von Miller, rehabs his torn knee ligament, Buffalo added edge rusher Leonard Floyd to a young and mostly unproven group of first- and second-day draft picks. The loss of free-agent inside linebacker Tremaine Edmunds could sting if a replacement doesn’t emerge soon, and that puts more stress on Milano and nickel back Taron Johnson to handle dangerous tight ends. The biggest concern on offense remains right tackle. A bounce-back season by receiver Gabriel Davis would be much appreciated, and rookie tight end Dalton Kincaid might help the offense evolve even more.

Key decision-makers

Bengals 

The Bengals have a reputation for moving glacially across the NFL landscape. Continuity and loyalty are king. While many practices have changed in recent years, including the stunning spending numbers in free agency, nobody has more consistency in this regard across the league. The family ownership has never changed, director of player personnel Duke Tobin has been entrenched for two decades, they are going on four consecutive seasons with the same quarterback, head coach (Zac Taylor), offensive coordinator (Brian Callahan), defensive coordinator (Lou Anarumo), quarterbacks coach (Dan Pitcher) and special teams coordinator (Darrin Simmons). All except for Simmons have had interviews for promotions across the league in recent years. How many of those coaches will remain in three years is a question and Taylor will need to make major hires for the first time since accepting the job in 2019. But for now, they bathe in continuity and use it to their advantage with problem-solving on the fly as they did with changing the focus of the offense mid-stream last season.

Bills

Head coach Sean McDermott is second only to Marv Levy in establishing a successful Buffalo sports culture. McDermott will shoulder even more of the decision-making responsibilities in 2023, having lost each of his three coordinators the past two years. With McDermott assuming defensive calls given Leslie Frazier’s sabbatical, the head coach will be scrutinized more than ever. Buffalo’s scouting departments in between the Bill Polian/John Butler era and Brandon Beane’s 2017 arrival produced a series of personnel guys who commonly struggled to do anything else in the NFL once the Bills fired them. Former assistant GM Joe Schoen raided the Bills’ scouting cabinet a bit when he took the New York Giants promotion last year, but the department Beane built has been the deepest in franchise history. Beane’s lieutenants either already held GM jobs, have since been interviewed to be GMs or have been promoted at One Bills Drive. Beane’s staff includes top assistant Brian Gaine (former Texans GM), director of player personnel Terrance Gray, senior personnel executive Matt Bazirgan, senior personnel advisor Malik Boyd and senior executive Lake Dawson (former Titans senior VP of football operations).

Resources to improve

Bengals

The Bengals are about to enter lease negotiations and planned renovation to Paycor Stadium but have made significant facilities improvements in recent years, with a host of new rehabilitation and workout facilities to finally building the franchise’s first indoor practice facility. The resources to improve won’t be about cold tubs or warm practices, however, they will be about fielding a competitive roster after paying Burrow and Chase (and others). Those two will top the market at the NFL’s most expensive positions. The roster surplus created by having them on rookie contracts the last two seasons has been an all-time luxury in team building. When it disappears, will the supporting cast disappear with it, or can the Bengals continue this hot run of drafts and shrewd free-agent moves to absorb the impact?

Bills

In March’s NFL Players Association survey on organizational quality, Buffalo ranked ninth, suggesting the small-market club with a weather stigma spends a lot of money to keep its players happy. The recent front-office shakeup shouldn’t impact football operations if owner Terry Pegula remains hands-off. Pegula’s decision to oust COO Ron Raccuia and assemble three direct-report executives appears to be entirely business related. But there is concern among Western New York business leaders and politicians across the state that overruns on the Bills’ new stadium will become a significant issue for Pegula. The deal brokered last year was for a $1.4 billion stadium, with New York State and Erie County capped at $850 million and Pegula handling the rest, including all cost overruns. The estimate already has been raised to $1.54 billion, and those with intimate knowledge of the project claim the total might reach $2 billion. In the salary-cap NFL, that shouldn’t affect player payroll, but teams find other ways to save money, cutbacks that can hamper scouting and give organizations a bad reputation among players, most notably free agents.

Matchup with Kansas City

Bengals 

This might be where the Bengals gain the edge in the debate. No team in the NFL has experienced more success in high-leverage situations against the Chiefs. Burrow is 3-1 against Mahomes, and all four games in the series have been decided by three points, including each of the last two AFC Championship games in Arrowhead. Anarumo has found the secret sauce to flummox Mahomes, allowing just six points combined in the second halves of the games in 2021 and holding them to 24 and 23 points last year. Mahomes has a league-leading 0.24 EPA/dropback the last two years against all other teams, but that number is cut in half to 0.12 against Anarumo. Despite the now infamous “Burrowhead” comments backfiring last season, the Bengals still own a rare confidence against the Chiefs and feel they know how to beat them. That matters. And after the signing of Orlando Brown and chirping back and forth between teams this offseason, the rivalry is here to stay.

Bills

Bills fans can be excused if their blood pressure spikes upon reaching this category. We’ll give them 13 seconds to compose themselves. … Cincinnati has had much better success against Kansas City. Buffalo’s record should be one postseason game better than it is, losing that sudden-death crusher in Arrowhead Stadium despite taking two leads within the final two minutes of the fourth quarter, including with 13 seconds left in regulation. The Bills with Allen have destroyed the Chiefs (by 18 points in prime time two years ago), been shellacked (by 14 in the 2020 playoffs), came back in the final minute (last October) and … well, yeah. Other than that fiasco, McDermott has held his own against his mentor Andy Reid. That said, Buffalo sure would love to play one in Orchard Park. The past four meetings have been in Arrowhead Stadium, and in December it will be five straight.

[Tanqueray Ten]

17 hours ago, daryls61 said:

Wow, even after the offseason of Sean? Didn't think you would realize you have no idea how to build a modern NFL team so soon.

They better be improves this year or I will be unleashing the Boom on Sean regularly.

Let's go around the room...

 

[nealpellecchia@yahoo]

21 hours ago, seandelevan said:

Bengals. 
 

offensive head coach and 3 top notch receivers to help their franchise qb who imo isn’t anything THAT special. 
 

Put Allen in that situation he has one maybe two superbowls by now.

He plays his position with a good enough arm.

[daryls61]

With the Burrow extension, Boyd and Higgins are both FA's after this year and both won't be back, maybe not either one. The Chase extension is also going to be massive. Bungles SB window is closed after this year where as Bills will remain open as long as we have JA17. 

Burrow can't manufacture offense on his own like Allen can. 

[daryls61]

On 9/5/2023 at 6:35 AM, seandelevan said:

Bengals. 
 

offensive head coach and 3 top notch receivers to help their franchise qb who imo isn’t anything THAT special. 
 

Put Allen in that situation he has one maybe two superbowls by now.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[TheMachinist]

Bengals. Allen will never win anything as long as McDumbass is the Bills HC. 

[seandelevan]

1 hour ago, daryls61 said:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

What? Burrow is Alex Smith 2.0 

 

Give Allen their coach, Boyd, Higgins, Chase and we would have had a parade or two already. 

[daryls61]

41 minutes ago, seandelevan said:

What? Burrow is Alex Smith 2.0 

 

Give Allen their coach, Boyd, Higgins, Chase and we would have had a parade or two already. 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

Sean has no clue Bills had #2 offense in NFL and Bungals have not won Bowl. LOL - Sean has reached new level of STUPID.

 

[jpp]

23 minutes ago, daryls61 said:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

Sean has no clue Bills had #2 offense in NFL and Bungals have not won Bowl. LOL - Sean has reached new level of STUPID.

 

Tell us the Bills Defensive rankings (each catagory) only during playoffs 

[daryls61]

35 minutes ago, jpp said:

Tell us the Bills Defensive rankings (each catagory) only during playoffs 

Why would that matter?

[jpp]

Just now, daryls61 said:

Why would that matter?

Ok....no words....nevermind...wow.....YUP Playoffs dont matter at all LMFAO....Im out Captain!

[BertSquirtgum]

Looks like Burrow injured his arm signing that big contract

[Baldat28]

Well, one team with 3 backup o-lineman held a D-line composed of 1st and 2nd rounders to 0 sacks and almost completely no pressure....while the other team with a full compliment of its O-lineman couldn't contain a D that had 0 1st or 2nd rounders on the line. That same team schooled the other in their own backyard.....yeah, I'll take the team that's been to a Superbowl and back to back conference championships.....mostly because of coaching, cause I would honestly take Allen over Burrow if every thing else is equal.

[thinwhiteduke]

6 hours ago, TheMachinist said:

Bengals. Allen will never win anything as long as McDumbass is the Bills HC. 

Just like the Rams and Fisher 

[thinwhiteduke]

I'd rather be Browns

[StraightJ]

4 hours ago, Baldat28 said:

Well, one team with 3 backup o-lineman held a D-line composed of 1st and 2nd rounders to 0 sacks and almost completely no pressure....while the other team with a full compliment of its O-lineman couldn't contain a D that had 0 1st or 2nd rounders on the line. That same team schooled the other in their own backyard.....yeah, I'll take the team that's been to a Superbowl and back to back conference championships.....mostly because of coaching, cause I would honestly take Allen over Burrow if every thing else is equal.

Yo... Baldat, this mostly is not at you, though your first half sentence or so was all I needed to read after reading all the BS already.  Logically, I don't see the sense in most of you unless you are quite literally masochists, and/or suffer from stockholm syndrome in real life(which truthfully seems likely the way you ignore the abuses from your rulers/owners....as if you were automatons of some sort....early sims(not Phil)-like.

(you're actually an interesting SOB, in the level of consistency of your posting over time.  Are you a traveler?  Actually, I rarely read replies once I post in the thread, but did want to make that sincere statement.  Your(over time, curently not so much) unpredictability of general stance (if I recall correctly) is not common.

(original message):

After reading about 5 words it seems like you missed the premise.  This is not asking what team's past history you'd want(or shit, I guess it may be).  I took it to mean the present, and more so the future.  But if you're talking the past, that means trading Jim Kelly for that bastard from East Islip(Long Island), Boomer Esiason.  You take your Boomer....  I'll keep Jim.

 

As for the thread as a whole, it's pathetic.  Seriously, what logic is there in claiming to be a fan of a team you fucking shit out of your mouths day after fucking day about?  I get occasionally.   I've never seen a person in real life do that.  It's like that line from Office Space, "No, if someone said 'a case of the Mondays' where I worked, they'd be liable to get their asses kicked.

People are dying by your tax dollars in Ukraine, Palestine, and heaven knows where else.  Deny all you want, but that is reality...and youre bitching you'd rather have that team?  Put your money where you mouth is and become fans of the Bengals, or stop lying.