JT Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 20 minutes ago, daryls61 said: So have the Bengals you Champion. Every team that loses in the playoffs doesn't massively retool their roster. Why would a team do that when they have a winning formula. The only fans that think like this are the uneducated ones that don't understand NFL football. Whatever you say, if you think all is well and the Bills have done all they can do and they have no room for improvement then there is nothing to talk about. Maybe next year the Bills should not attend the draft at all, they already have a top 5 defense and number 2 offense. Apparently the entire purpose of playing 17 games in an NFL season is not to win a Super Bowl but to have a top 5 defense and a number 2 offense. Looks like the Bills are in good shape, their goals have been met. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daryls61 Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 7 minutes ago, JT said: Whatever you say, if you think all is well and the Bills have done all they can do and they have no room for improvement then there is nothing to talk about. Maybe next year the Bills should not attend the draft at all, they already have a top 5 defense and number 2 offense. Apparently the entire purpose of playing 17 games in an NFL season is not to win a Super Bowl but to have a top 5 defense and a number 2 offense. Looks like the Bills are in good shape, their goals have been met. LOL - where did I ever say there wasn't rom for improvement. See my mocks I post every year. My issue is people saying the offense wasn't good enough when it was the #2 offense in NFL which ig plenty good enough to win the bowl. There are other factors in winning bowl besides the offense. I realize people don't have as much NFL knowledge as I do so I try and be patient and help people like you out and better understand NFL strategy. Quote The Things that unite us are far greater than the things that divide us. "Are you a Jedi?" "I am" Din Djarin to Luke Skywalker in The Mandalorian "The Force, it's calling to you. Just let it in." - Maz Kanata: Star Wars VII The Force Awakens #Cup or Bust 2024 #Bowl or Bust 2023 - It is the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 17 minutes ago, JT said: Whatever you say, if you think all is well and the Bills have done all they can do and they have no room for improvement then there is nothing to talk about. Maybe next year the Bills should not attend the draft at all, they already have a top 5 defense and number 2 offense. Apparently the entire purpose of playing 17 games in an NFL season is not to win a Super Bowl but to have a top 5 defense and a number 2 offense. Looks like the Bills are in good shape, their goals have been met. He’s beyond hopeless and stupid as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 13 minutes ago, daryls61 said: LOL - where did I ever say there wasn't rom for improvement. See my mocks I post every year. My issue is people saying the offense wasn't good enough when it was the #2 offense in NFL which ig plenty good enough to win the bowl. There are other factors in winning bowl besides the offense. I realize people don't have as much NFL knowledge as I do so I try and be patient and help people like you out and better understand NFL strategy. Sure thing, you constantly are telling everyone who you disagree with that they don't have your knowledge. When you are mentioning daily that the Bills have the top 2 offense you are insinuating that they are all set and that anyone who criticizes them are lacking NFL knowledge. Many on this board are concerned with the offense despite is ranking, if your not then good for you. Your knowledge has nothing to do with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daryls61 Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 27 minutes ago, JT said: Sure thing, you constantly are telling everyone who you disagree with that they don't have your knowledge. When you are mentioning daily that the Bills have the top 2 offense you are insinuating that they are all set and that anyone who criticizes them are lacking NFL knowledge. Many on this board are concerned with the offense despite is ranking, if your not then good for you. Your knowledge has nothing to do with it. Why would anyone be concerned about the #2 offense in NFL. What you should be concerned about is maintaining the #2 offense in NFL. The offense have been Super Bowl quality for 3 years now. Anyone telling you differently is just making up an issue that doesnt exist. Quote The Things that unite us are far greater than the things that divide us. "Are you a Jedi?" "I am" Din Djarin to Luke Skywalker in The Mandalorian "The Force, it's calling to you. Just let it in." - Maz Kanata: Star Wars VII The Force Awakens #Cup or Bust 2024 #Bowl or Bust 2023 - It is the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daryls61 Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 On 8/29/2023 at 11:23 AM, JT said: To think of all the pure shit picks these fuckers made when instead they could have been putting weapons around Allen is incredible. Defensive minded head coach and GM who prioritize defense have zero clue how to draft defense should be a major red flag. Time to move on before Allen does. Lacking a year of context, obviously since this is a year and a half old, BUT... Bills were the best drafting team in the NFL (Career Approximate Value Over Expected) under the current regime... 2017-2021 drafts only 1. BUF: +126.6 2. BAL: +94.3 3. NO: +82.5 4. KC: +60.2 Quote The Things that unite us are far greater than the things that divide us. "Are you a Jedi?" "I am" Din Djarin to Luke Skywalker in The Mandalorian "The Force, it's calling to you. Just let it in." - Maz Kanata: Star Wars VII The Force Awakens #Cup or Bust 2024 #Bowl or Bust 2023 - It is the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 16 minutes ago, daryls61 said: Why would anyone be concerned about the #2 offense in NFL. What you should be concerned about is maintaining the #2 offense in NFL. The offense have been Super Bowl quality for 3 years now. Anyone telling you differently is just making up an issue that doesnt exist. Because when the success of the offense is based on the performance of two players and some weeks on 1 player then that leaves little room for error. Bills have been very fortunate that Allen has stayed healthy and is Super Man, this is the reason why they are so good. Unfortunately the facts are clear, regardless of their rank they are coming up short every year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daryls61 Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 4 minutes ago, JT said: Because when the success of the offense is based on the performance of two players and some weeks on 1 player then that leaves little room for error. Bills have been very fortunate that Allen has stayed healthy and is Super Man, this is the reason why they are so good. Unfortunately the facts are clear, regardless of their rank they are coming up short every year. The Chiefs are also lucky Mahomes has stayed healthy and is Superman. Chief also have little room for error if Kelsay gets shut down since they have other teams cast offs as their WR's. Quote The Things that unite us are far greater than the things that divide us. "Are you a Jedi?" "I am" Din Djarin to Luke Skywalker in The Mandalorian "The Force, it's calling to you. Just let it in." - Maz Kanata: Star Wars VII The Force Awakens #Cup or Bust 2024 #Bowl or Bust 2023 - It is the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 5 minutes ago, JT said: Because when the success of the offense is based on the performance of two players and some weeks on 1 player then that leaves little room for error. Bills have been very fortunate that Allen has stayed healthy and is Super Man, this is the reason why they are so good. Unfortunately the facts are clear, regardless of their rank they are coming up short every year. He is an idiot. No use to trying to reason with the dipshit. And you should be careful…his next step is to call me and Sean your lovers because we share the same stance. It’s what he does when he finally realizes he’s been beat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 17 minutes ago, daryls61 said: Lacking a year of context, obviously since this is a year and a half old, BUT... Bills were the best drafting team in the NFL (Career Approximate Value Over Expected) under the current regime... 2017-2021 drafts only 1. BUF: +126.6 2. BAL: +94.3 3. NO: +82.5 4. KC: +60.2 Best drafting team according to who? not me, they have drafted the wrong players in the wrong positions more often than not. Once again a meaningless stat, if those stats won you a Lombardi trophy then we would be all set. Just because the Bills drafted someone who has been somewhat successful doesn't mean they where the right pick. The value of a pick doesn't mean it's the pick the team actually needed or would benefit most from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daryls61 Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 11 minutes ago, JT said: Best drafting team according to who? not me, they have drafted the wrong players in the wrong positions more often than not. Once again a meaningless stat, if those stats won you a Lombardi trophy then we would be all set. Just because the Bills drafted someone who has been somewhat successful doesn't mean they where the right pick. The value of a pick doesn't mean it's the pick the team actually needed or would benefit most from. This is according to experts that use analytics to rate NFL teams drafts. It is for a more sophisticated mind so you may not grasp the data. To summarize, Bills are the best drafting team over the last 5 years. The thing most people don't understand is how many misses other teams have. They just focus on their own team so they miss the big picture. Hope this helps. Quote The Things that unite us are far greater than the things that divide us. "Are you a Jedi?" "I am" Din Djarin to Luke Skywalker in The Mandalorian "The Force, it's calling to you. Just let it in." - Maz Kanata: Star Wars VII The Force Awakens #Cup or Bust 2024 #Bowl or Bust 2023 - It is the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 52 minutes ago, daryls61 said: This is according to experts that use analytics to rate NFL teams drafts. It is for a more sophisticated mind so you may not grasp the data. To summarize, Bills are the best drafting team over the last 5 years. The thing most people don't understand is how many misses other teams have. They just focus on their own team so they miss the big picture. Hope this helps. Well then it's the perfect data for your sophisticated mind, Looks like it helped you prove your point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamsim67 Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 On 8/29/2023 at 7:11 PM, jpp said: Watch Daboll make this guy into an all pro...lol If Boogie has an all pro season, then you really need to take a look at McDermott and his coaching staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamsim67 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 10 hours ago, daryls61 said: The #2 offense in the NFL is a super bowl offense. This talking point that the Bills don't have enough playmakers is some made up fallacy from fans that don't understand NFL football. Chiefs only have 1 stud in Kelsay and then other teams cast offs at WR. #2 offense in the regular season is great, and I'll take it all day and every day. The problem is that playoff teams are usually better than most of the teams the Bill's played during the regular season to get to that #2 offense. Need to be able to raise their play in the playoffs. Lets see how this season plays out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpp Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 19 minutes ago, jamsim67 said: If Boogie has an all pro season, then you really need to take a look at McDermott and his coaching staff. Yup just another thing to add to the list...I agree....This guy McD better flippin blow people's minds this season and more importantly how he can deliver this team when it really counts...The Playoffs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamsim67 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 26 minutes ago, jpp said: Yup just another thing to add to the list...I agree....This guy McD better flippin blow people's minds this season and more importantly how he can deliver this team when it really counts...The Playoffs! A well coached team should never play the way they played against the Dolphins, and then not even bother to show up against the Bengals. And I don't care what the weather was like. Bengals showed up, and had a plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpp Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 15 minutes ago, jamsim67 said: A well coached team should never play the way they played against the Dolphins, and then not even bother to show up against the Bengals. And I don't care what the weather was like. Bengals showed up, and had a plan. Agree.....Last seasons playoff show was downright disgusting....They out did themselves IMO in last years playoffs compared to the prior seasons embarresments....THat Cinci game was the worst.....Completely never showed up from the 1st whistle....Thats inexcusable....That shit goes directly to the coaches....no debate about that.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daryls61 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 11 hours ago, jamsim67 said: #2 offense in the regular season is great, and I'll take it all day and every day. The problem is that playoff teams are usually better than most of the teams the Bill's played during the regular season to get to that #2 offense. Need to be able to raise their play in the playoffs. Lets see how this season plays out. The Bills have averaged 30 points per playoff game so offense performed the same as it did in the regular season. 1 1 Quote The Things that unite us are far greater than the things that divide us. "Are you a Jedi?" "I am" Din Djarin to Luke Skywalker in The Mandalorian "The Force, it's calling to you. Just let it in." - Maz Kanata: Star Wars VII The Force Awakens #Cup or Bust 2024 #Bowl or Bust 2023 - It is the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daryls61 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 10 hours ago, jpp said: Yup just another thing to add to the list...I agree....This guy McD better flippin blow people's minds this season and more importantly how he can deliver this team when it really counts...The Playoffs! After the offseason of Sean, Bills better improve or I will be raining down an ungodly shitstorm on him. 1 1 Quote The Things that unite us are far greater than the things that divide us. "Are you a Jedi?" "I am" Din Djarin to Luke Skywalker in The Mandalorian "The Force, it's calling to you. Just let it in." - Maz Kanata: Star Wars VII The Force Awakens #Cup or Bust 2024 #Bowl or Bust 2023 - It is the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamsim67 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 10 hours ago, daryls61 said: The Bills have averaged 30 points per playoff game so offense performed the same as it did in the regular season. As a team, they looked like shit, yet put up 34 points against an inferior Dolphins team led by Skylar Thompson (who?), and they had to rally to win. And then followed that up a week later by not even bothering to show up for a home playoff game against a much better Bengals team. How did that 30 points per game look against them? Yes, it was miserable weather wise. but it was just as miserable for the Bengals. Bill's looked they didn't even prepare. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpp Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 8 minutes ago, jamsim67 said: As a team, they looked like shit, yet put up 34 points against an inferior Dolphins team led by Skylar Thompson (who?), and they had to rally to win. And then followed that up a week later by not even bothering to show up for a home playoff game against a much better Bengals team. How did that 30 points per game look against them? Yes, it was miserable weather wise. but it was just as miserable for the Bengals. Bill's looked they didn't even prepare. It just blows my mind how anyone who actually watched those playoff games say they performed decently...Either they never watched and are just lying as per own agenda or if they actually watched and saw positives...OMG.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamsim67 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 7 minutes ago, jpp said: It just blows my mind how anyone who actually watched those playoff games say they performed decently...Either they never watched and are just lying as per own agenda or if they actually watched and saw positives...OMG.... Whats sad is that I watched the entire Bengal crap fest, expecting them to finally begin to play football, and make it a game. I still feel cheated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpp Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Just now, jamsim67 said: Whats sad is that I watched the entire Bengal crap fest, expecting them to finally begin to play football, and make it a game. I still feel cheated. Yup no doubt one of the worst performances a team can do in a playoff game....No Show BIG TIME! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 On 8/30/2023 at 11:36 AM, daryls61 said: Why would anyone be concerned about the #2 offense in NFL. What you should be concerned about is maintaining the #2 offense in NFL. The offense have been Super Bowl quality for 3 years now. Anyone telling you differently is just making up an issue that doesnt exist. Our d was also ranked really high…are you completely ignoring that we could hardly ever get the qb down when it mattered? Rankings can be taken with a grain of salt. They don’t tell the whole story you fucking jackass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 13 hours ago, daryls61 said: The Bills have averaged 30 points per playoff game so offense performed the same as it did in the regular season. You are the dumbest mother fucker on this board. Haha. Yeah we were “so good” in the playoffs once defenses figured out all you had to do was take away Diggs. Run along spanky… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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