Herodotus Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Recently there have been three lies regarding foreign policy bullshit and so I was curious, which one is the biggest whopper? 2003's Iraqi oil will pay for occupation costs? Saddam is why we invaded and his wmds 2016's Mexico will pay for the wall 2022, Russia invaded "completely unprovoked" and they will pay for the cost of the proxy war and reconstruction of Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknaboz Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Recently! ????? Quote [/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herodotus Posted August 28 Author Share Posted August 28 1 hour ago, micknaboz said: Recently! ????? Recently is relative. Generally speaking the present is within the past 20 years. History, good histories anyway, are normally written about something 20 or more years after something happens so that you can have enough distance in time to think objectively about it, cobble sources from a variety of view points and piece together what actually happened. So yeah, anything in the past 20 years is recent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknaboz Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Trumpian Logic^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You and Shiva must be collaborating. LOL 2 Quote [/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 4 hours ago, micknaboz said: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Trumpian Logic^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You and Shiva must be collaborating. LOL Its the smart thing to do, considering I've been right about every single fucking thing over the last 22 years. Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 On 8/28/2023 at 8:04 PM, shiva2999 said: Its the smart thing to do, considering I've been right about every single fucking thing over the last 22 years. ....says no one but you..... Another example of that dementia kicking in Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 1 hour ago, HipKat said: ....says no one but you..... So what? Does a majority opinion determine the truth? Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 2 hours ago, shiva2999 said: So what? Does a majority opinion determine the truth? It's not a matter of opinion whether you've been right about everything for the last 22 years or not Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 17 minutes ago, HipKat said: It's not a matter of opinion whether you've been right about everything for the last 22 years or not What have I been wrong about? Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinwhiteduke Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 7 hours ago, shiva2999 said: What have I been wrong about? ......how good some of your director projects were, maybe?....... :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 27 minutes ago, thinwhiteduke said: ......how good some of your director projects were, maybe?....... :) Certainly some were better than others. Not all of us could afford to wait for projects we thought would go down in film history. Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 19 hours ago, shiva2999 said: What have I been wrong about? Over the course of the last 22 years?? How the fuck would I know everything you've been wrong about. Here, we can start with your pedestal-placing of Russia and Putin Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 1 hour ago, HipKat said: Over the course of the last 22 years?? How the fuck would I know everything you've been wrong about. Here, we can start with your pedestal-placing of Russia and Putin What's wrong with an impartial assessment of Russia and it's leader? Are they evil just because? Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 5 hours ago, shiva2999 said: What's wrong with an impartial assessment of Russia and it's leader? Are they evil just because? Impartial? LMAO. There is the laugh I needed today. Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 5 hours ago, shiva2999 said: What's wrong with an impartial assessment of Russia and it's leader? The same thing that's wrong with impartial assessments of anything else: impartiality =/= objectivity. An objective assessment of Russia and its leader determines that its leader is a Christian Nationalist and that he is, therefore, evil. An impartial assessment cannot make that determination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 1 minute ago, HipKat said: Impartial? LMAO. There is the laugh I needed today. Why not explain what's supposedly funny? Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 1 minute ago, shiva2999 said: Why not explain what's supposedly funny? There’s nothing funny. It’s a sad statement about your in ability to acknowledge anything negative about him much like the MAGA’s are incapable of finding any fault with Donald Trump. Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 2 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: An objective assessment of Russia and its leader determines that its leader is a Christian Nationalist and that he is, therefore, evil. How does this supposed "impartial assessment" get to the conclusion that because Putin is a "Christian nationalist" he is necessarily "evil"? Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 3 minutes ago, HipKat said: There’s nothing funny. Then what's to laugh at? Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 1 hour ago, shiva2999 said: How does this supposed "impartial assessment" get to the conclusion that because Putin is a "Christian nationalist" he is necessarily "evil"? An impartial assessment would not. I said an objective one would. Christian Nationalism is a branch of fascist ideology. Fascism is evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 12 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: An impartial assessment would not. I said an objective one would. No, it wouldn't. After all, Hitler's beef with the Jews was objective and not impartial. Doesn't mean the Holocaust was justified. Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 7 minutes ago, shiva2999 said: No, it wouldn't. After all, Hitler's beef with the Jews was objective and not impartial. Doesn't mean the Holocaust was justified. Hitler's beef with the Jews was based on categorically fraudulent premises. It was not objective in the least. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 4 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: Hitler's beef with the Jews was based on categorically fraudulent premises. It was not objective in the least. Just because he was wrong doesn't mean he didn't feel he was being objective. Like you with Russia. You're utterly wrong, but I have no doubt you'll tell us you're being objective. Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 2 minutes ago, shiva2999 said: Just because he was wrong doesn't mean he didn't feel he was being objective. Like you with Russia. You're utterly wrong, but I have no doubt you'll tell us you're being objective. Except I'm not wrong. https://osf.io/preprints/socarxiv/bp79r/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 9 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: Except I'm not wrong. https://osf.io/preprints/socarxiv/bp79r/ Yes, you are wrong and I have no idea what your video has to do with anything. Or did you think I wouldn't watch it? Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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