HipKat Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 Vivek Ramaswamy, the 38-year-old biotech multi-millionaire running for president, was a standout performer in the first debate between Republican candidates for the party's nomination. With no previous experience of political office, he has positioned himself as an outsider willing to develop former President Donald Trump's "America First" agenda with his own personal spin. That includes some unconventional proposals on everything from law enforcement to the war in Ukraine. Here are five things he believes. 1) The voting age should be raised Mr Ramaswamy has voiced support for raising the voting age to 25. But under his proposal, those over 18 would be able to vote if they meet a "national service requirement", either by being an emergency first responder or by serving for at least six months in the military. "We must think ambitiously about reviving civic duty in America," he said earlier this year. He suggested that those over 18 would also be able to vote if they pass the same test given to those seeking US citizenship. "I understand not everyone will like this proposal and that it will take persuasion to convince many of its merits, but I'm ready to take that on," he said. Raising the voting age would require changing the US Constitution, meaning, among other things, that two-thirds of Congress would need to approve the measure. 2) Ukraine should make major concessions In a departure from most Western sentiment on the war, Mr Ramaswamy has called for Ukraine to make "major concessions" in order to end the conflict. "What I think we need to do is end the Ukraine war on peaceful terms that, yes, do make some major concessions to Russia, including freezing those current lines of control in a Korean-war style armistice agreement," he told ABC News in June. He believes the "number one threat to the US military" is the Chinese-Russian alliance, and so called for "a permanent commitment not to allow Ukraine to enter Nato. But in return, Russia has to leave its treaty and its joint military agreement with China". Mr Ramaswamy opposes sending aid to Kyiv and instead believes the president should focus on American interests. "I think that by fighting further in Russia, by further arming Ukraine, we are driving Russia into China's hands." he said. 3) There should be no national abortion ban Mr Ramaswamy does not support a federal ban on abortion because, in his words, "the federal government should stay out of it". He has supported six-week bans on the procedure at state level, however, and described himself as "unapologetically pro-life". "If murder laws are handled at the state level, and abortion is a form of murder, the pro-life view, then it makes no sense for that to be the one federal law," he told CNN. 4) The FBI should be abolished Mr Ramaswamy has put forward plans to scrap a number of federal departments including the Department of Education, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, the Internal Revenue Service and the FBI. "In many cases, these agencies are redundant relative to functions that are already performed elsewhere in the federal government," he told NBC News. He has proposed a reorganisation in which the FBI's funding would be distributed instead to the Secret Service, the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network and the Defense Intelligence Agency. Former President Donald Trump, the current frontrunner to win the Republican nomination, has repeatedly attacked the FBI as being part of a "witch hunt" against him. And a Fox News poll in June showed public confidence in America's top law enforcement agency had eroded from 80% in 2017 to 59%, mostly among Republicans. 5) The government has told lies about 9/11 Mr Ramaswamy has been widely criticised for remarks he made about the 9/11 attacks in an interview with The Atlantic magazine. "It is legitimate to say how many police, how many federal agents, were on the planes that hit the Twin Towers," he said. "Maybe the answer is zero. It probably is zero for all I know, right? I have no reason to think it was anything other than zero," he continued. "But if we're doing a comprehensive assessment of what happened... absolutely that should be an answer the public knows the answer to." An official bipartisan commission, in a final report published in 2004, established the events of 9/11 and found no evidence of a government plot. Mr Ramaswamy later said he had been misquoted by the magazine, telling CNN: "The truth is there are lies the government has told about 9/11. But it's not the ones that somebody put in my mouth." The Atlantic then published audio which showed his comments had been accurately transcribed. Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 He's not a Christian. He'll never be elected as the primary candidate by the GOP. Why waste your time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinwhiteduke Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 The 38 year old.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herodotus Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 What's not to like. We don't have a draft and 18 to 21 year olds are too fucking stupid to be trusted with elections as it is. I mostly or completely agree with all of these. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 7 minutes ago, Herodotus said: What's not to like. We don't have a draft and 18 to 21 year olds are too fucking stupid to be trusted with elections as it is. I mostly or completely agree with all of these. You are a clown-brained fucktard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 18 minutes ago, Herodotus said: What's not to like. We don't have a draft and 18 to 21 year olds are too fucking stupid to be trusted with elections as it is. I mostly or completely agree with all of these. Let me guess, also limit voter eligibility to white men who own property? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 2 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said: Let me guess, also limit voter eligibility to white men who own property? Oh, Heavens! Gibby would never say he WANTS non-white non-males to be disenfranchised! But you know If the Democrats didn't secretly want him to want it they'd let him tell the party what to do all the time so if he behaves in a manner that makes that outcome more likely than alternative behaviors would maybe that's not so much his fault and really everyone else's That's a reasonable thought process, you see, it is definitely not the product of a fractured and overpropagandized mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 He won't win but he's better than all the clowns on the left.,libs,dems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 13 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: Oh, Heavens! Gibby would never say he WANTS non-white non-males to be disenfranchised! But you know If the Democrats didn't secretly want him to want it they'd let him tell the party what to do all the time so if he behaves in a manner that makes that outcome more likely than alternative behaviors would maybe that's not so much his fault and really everyone else's That's a reasonable thought process, you see, it is definitely not the product of a fractured and overpropagandized mind. Let the Christian fascists win to teach the liberals a lesson. Makes total sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted August 25 Author Share Posted August 25 So we've got straight-up fascist shit, reward imperialist aggression, allow red states to enforce compulsory pregnancy, axe government agencies that serve critical functions. Seems like a strong platform. Shame he's such an charmless little twerp. 2 Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted August 25 Author Share Posted August 25 1 hour ago, Herodotus said: What's not to like. We don't have a draft and 18 to 21 year olds are too fucking stupid to be trusted with elections as it is. I mostly or completely agree with all of these. Because you're stupid? Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SackMan518 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 On 8/24/2023 at 10:26 PM, f8ta1ity54 said: Let me guess, also limit voter eligibility to white men who own property? No, own property regardless of their race, gender, or color. On 8/24/2023 at 9:20 PM, HipKat said: Here are five things he believes. I like this guy! He'll be a great VP for the Trump return since Pence is a dead man in the primary. On 8/24/2023 at 9:23 PM, f8ta1ity54 said: He's not a Christian. He'll never be elected as the primary candidate by the GOP. Why waste your time? You think these politicians are religious? LOL. All words, no scripture. On 8/24/2023 at 10:00 PM, Herodotus said: What's not to like. We don't have a draft and 18 to 21 year olds are too fucking stupid to be trusted with elections as it is. I mostly or completely agree with all of these. It's true that your brain is not fully developed until 25 years. On 8/24/2023 at 10:38 PM, RichJ said: He won't win but he's better than all the clowns on the left.,libs,dems. I hear that. All they have is nothing outside of Biden. On 8/24/2023 at 10:53 PM, HipKat said: So we've got straight-up fascist shit, reward imperialist aggression, allow red states to enforce compulsory pregnancy, axe government agencies that serve critical functions. Now that's our Democrat HK! Quote Sack "The Buffalo Range's TRUSTED News Source!" “When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” ~ Dresden James Twitter: Zack518Mann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinwhiteduke Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 38 yrs old. Ram-aswamy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted August 26 Author Share Posted August 26 1 hour ago, SackMan518 said: No, own property regardless of their race, gender, or color. Constitution?? What constitution. Why not just shut out 35% of Americans because they rent. Can't wait to see what other gems you have in here 1 hour ago, SackMan518 said: I like this guy! He'll be a great VP for the Trump return since Pence is a dead man in the primary. Trump has no chance, He's not gaining voters, he's losing them. You'd have to be brain dead to think that Independents and Moderates are jumping on his side 1 hour ago, SackMan518 said: You think these politicians are religious? LOL. All words, no scripture. Then stop placating to the Christians. 1 hour ago, SackMan518 said: It's true that your brain is not fully developed until 25 years. Then remove them from the ranks of military eligibility 1 hour ago, SackMan518 said: I hear that. All they have is nothing outside of Biden. So you're not good with RFK?? Oh, wait, point taken 1 hour ago, SackMan518 said: Now that's our Democrat HK! Uh huh... Mr RINO Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 2 hours ago, SackMan518 said: No, own property regardless of their race, gender, or color. LoL you don't have to pretend. We know what you're all about. 2 hours ago, SackMan518 said: I like this guy! He'll be a great VP for the Trump return since Pence is a dead man in the primary. LMAO are you politically retarded? Trump is going to surround himself with with cult loyalists, that's the only way he has a chance of attaining power. Vivek has no loyalty to Trump, he's just a sleeze ball trying to butter up the base. But it will never work. 2 hours ago, SackMan518 said: You think these politicians are religious? LOL. All words, no scripture. Some of them are. Whether they are or not doesn't matter if they pander to the evangelical right wing nuts regardless. Is this your admission that Trump was lying all along when he said he was religious and his favorite book is the Bible? See, you're no MAGA. You're a RINO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herodotus Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 On 8/24/2023 at 9:26 PM, f8ta1ity54 said: Let me guess, also limit voter eligibility to white men who own property? Nope, but I would require a political literacy test. There are a lot of people who are too stupid to be trusted to vote. These would be short written tests. Name three things on your candidate's platform that you support and one you are concerned about. Which article of the constitution describes and defines the responsibilities, qualifications of the legislative, the executive, and the judicial. How many amendments to the constitution? The first Amendment guarantees what? An easy test to past to ensure stupid people would not vote. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 2 minutes ago, Herodotus said: Nope, but I would require a political literacy test. There are a lot of people who are too stupid to be trusted to vote. These would be short written tests. Name three things on your candidate's platform that you support and one you are concerned about. Which article of the constitution describes and defines the responsibilities, qualifications of the legislative, the executive, and the judicial. How many amendments to the constitution? The first Amendment guarantees what? An easy test to past to ensure stupid people would not vote. Things you definitely say if you are a true leftist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SackMan518 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 3 hours ago, f8ta1ity54 said: LoL you don't have to pretend. We know what you're all about. You're retard. 3 hours ago, f8ta1ity54 said: LMAO are you politically retarded? Trump is going to surround himself with with cult loyalists, that's the only way he has a chance of attaining power. Vivek has no loyalty to Trump, he's just a sleeze ball trying to butter up the base. But it will never work. Again, you're retarded. 3 hours ago, f8ta1ity54 said: Some of them are. Whether they are or not doesn't matter if they pander to the evangelical right wing nuts regardless. Is this your admission that Trump was lying all along when he said he was religious and his favorite book is the Bible? See, you're no MAGA. You're a RINO. Why do you waste my time with your retardation and with your existence? Have a great night. Quote Sack "The Buffalo Range's TRUSTED News Source!" “When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” ~ Dresden James Twitter: Zack518Mann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted August 27 Author Share Posted August 27 5 hours ago, Herodotus said: Nope, but I would require a political literacy test. There are a lot of people who are too stupid to be trusted to vote. These would be short written tests. Name three things on your candidate's platform that you support and one you are concerned about. Which article of the constitution describes and defines the responsibilities, qualifications of the legislative, the executive, and the judicial. How many amendments to the constitution? The first Amendment guarantees what? An easy test to past to ensure stupid people would not vote. Again, that silly constitution... Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herodotus Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 17 minutes ago, HipKat said: Again, that silly constitution... Well that silly constitution was written by a bunch of elitists who had four checks on you. First, if you don't own property or slaves you couldn't vote. Same if you were a woman, Black, or any other minority. However, lets say you were white enough, had a dick, sorry ICR probably no trannies either, and owned enough property. Then you could elect a representative. However, your vote was checked by a Senate that you didn't vote for and that was checked by a president who you voted for indirectly. BTW, we still have that system. Then you had the SCOTUS, who wasn't elected at all, and after Marbury they became the supreme law of the land. BTW, we still have that system too. More about that silly constitution. Slavery outlawed? Well. . . . Except for that glaring loophole, read it then see why there are so many more minorities in prison than white people. So yeah, we are as elitist as we were in the 18th century. In many ways the founders would be stunned. They'd be looking at say Barack Obama or Nancy Pelosi or Dianne Feinstein having office. Washington, Jefferson, and Madison would look at Obama in the White House and say a mulatto in the presidency that's unusual and what is a woman doing holding office? Then again, the Catherine of Russia is an enlightened despot so maybe. Then they'd take a look at the bankrolling of the system, the 5,000 dollar a plate dinners and PACS and huge amounts of money flowing into Washington and ensuring that only the richest one percent had any say over the system and they'd say the system works. I think the only thing they'd be bothered by would be Hillary v. Trump. I don't think they ever in their wildest nightmares imagined the day when two demagogues were running for the presidency. They'd say well it worked for 230 years. That's not too shabby. A lot of them would say a Catholic as president and whatever minority Kamala Harris is claiming to be the champion for this week? Then they'd look at the money and revenue flow and say well its the necessary biproduct of the system we created. So yeah, my political literacy test isn't contradictory to the constitution. Hell, the authoritarian plutocratic nature of the constitution which was designed to keep power in the hands of as few people as possible , yeah that was pretty silly. Yeah, when people say the system is broken or the constitution doesn't work anymore. Nope, the system is working as it was designed. The constitution is keeping power in the hands of as few people as possible. Its all working the way it was designed. Don't like it? Take it up with the founders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinwhiteduke Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 38 yrs old. Ram-aswamy. Vivek. V is 5 in Roman numerals and gematria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinwhiteduke Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Education: Yale Law School (2013), Harvard University (2007), St. Xavier High School (2003) Just another puppet. Whether he knows it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toofast80 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 7 hours ago, Herodotus said: Well that silly constitution was written by a bunch of elitists who had four checks on you. First, if you don't own property or slaves you couldn't vote. Same if you were a woman, Black, or any other minority. However, lets say you were white enough, had a dick, sorry ICR probably no trannies either, and owned enough property. Then you could elect a representative. However, your vote was checked by a Senate that you didn't vote for and that was checked by a president who you voted for indirectly. BTW, we still have that system. Then you had the SCOTUS, who wasn't elected at all, and after Marbury they became the supreme law of the land. BTW, we still have that system too. More about that silly constitution. Slavery outlawed? Well. . . . Except for that glaring loophole, read it then see why there are so many more minorities in prison than white people. So yeah, we are as elitist as we were in the 18th century. In many ways the founders would be stunned. They'd be looking at say Barack Obama or Nancy Pelosi or Dianne Feinstein having office. Washington, Jefferson, and Madison would look at Obama in the White House and say a mulatto in the presidency that's unusual and what is a woman doing holding office? Then again, the Catherine of Russia is an enlightened despot so maybe. Then they'd take a look at the bankrolling of the system, the 5,000 dollar a plate dinners and PACS and huge amounts of money flowing into Washington and ensuring that only the richest one percent had any say over the system and they'd say the system works. I think the only thing they'd be bothered by would be Hillary v. Trump. I don't think they ever in their wildest nightmares imagined the day when two demagogues were running for the presidency. They'd say well it worked for 230 years. That's not too shabby. A lot of them would say a Catholic as president and whatever minority Kamala Harris is claiming to be the champion for this week? Then they'd look at the money and revenue flow and say well its the necessary biproduct of the system we created. So yeah, my political literacy test isn't contradictory to the constitution. Hell, the authoritarian plutocratic nature of the constitution which was designed to keep power in the hands of as few people as possible , yeah that was pretty silly. Yeah, when people say the system is broken or the constitution doesn't work anymore. Nope, the system is working as it was designed. The constitution is keeping power in the hands of as few people as possible. Its all working the way it was designed. Don't like it? Take it up with the founders. NOWHERE in the U.S. B.O.R/Constitution does it say ANYTHING about biological sex or exterior shade of human being a disqualifying factor for voting. But also had no real criteria for allowing “citizens” to vote. The basis was “ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL”. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted August 27 Author Share Posted August 27 Shiva and Hero will love this retard https://www.threads.net/@keithedwards/post/CwaR6j7OFux Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SackMan518 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 19 hours ago, HipKat said: Constitution?? What constitution. Why not just shut out 35% of Americans because they rent. Can't wait to see what other gems you have in here Yeah, let's lose that suffrage thing as well. It didn't work out for them and just look at that article about how 70% of them become Democrats. Ugh! 1 Quote Sack "The Buffalo Range's TRUSTED News Source!" “When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” ~ Dresden James Twitter: Zack518Mann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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