Crazy Legs Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 Plus O'Cyrus gave up zero sacks in 2022. If he can make that college to pro transition smoothly as a rookie, I think Josh is going to light it up. AFC East needs to look out! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 I just hope he is able to handle interior speed players who can test his edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikedLemonade Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Lawd knows we need a lot of better play on our OL. Quote Do Your Part to Improve The Range -- Please put the TRIO OF TRUMP FLUFFERSTM on IGNORE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcas0308 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 1 hour ago, SpikedLemonade said: Lawd knows we need a lot of better play on our OL. We have the players but things have to develop. Safford was easily the weakest link. Easy upgrade there just by starting Torrence. Also If Dawkins wouldn't go out as much, stopped being a fat shit and got some muscle definition, they would be good at LT. S Brown needs to add 10-15 pounds in his lower body, he is top heavy and doesn't have a OT build. He looks like a Barbie doll from the waist down. His lack of lateral and core strength is his problem. He is so athletically gifted he could carry 375 and still be quicker than everyone else. Not saying he should but something like 325 would be a good weight for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikedLemonade Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 1 hour ago, rcas0308 said: We have the players but things have to develop. Safford was easily the weakest link. Easy upgrade there just by starting Torrence. Also If Dawkins wouldn't go out as much, stopped being a fat shit and got some muscle definition, they would be good at LT. S Brown needs to add 10-15 pounds in his lower body, he is top heavy and doesn't have a OT build. He looks like a Barbie doll from the waist down. His lack of lateral and core strength is his problem. He is so athletically gifted he could carry 375 and still be quicker than everyone else. Not saying he should but something like 325 would be a good weight for him. I agree with your assessment 100% although I am NOT sure "we have the players" yet. Thank you for not triggering me by mentioning Bates' name. He is NOT and will NOT ever be a starting NFL OL on a contending team. This will be Morse's last year so I really wish we would have drafted his replacement this year or the year before. Yes, Dawkins is over-rated. More mouth than actual performance. 1 Quote Do Your Part to Improve The Range -- Please put the TRIO OF TRUMP FLUFFERSTM on IGNORE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcas0308 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 24 minutes ago, SpikedLemonade said: I agree with your assessment 100% although I am NOT sure "we have the players" yet. Thank you for not triggering me by mentioning Bates' name. He is NOT and will NOT ever be a starting NFL OL on a contending team. This will be Morse's last year so I really wish we would have drafted his replacement this year or the year before. Yes, Dawkins is over-rated. More mouth than actual performance. Maybe that center will be McGovern in the future but like I said in the past Bates isn't playing his best position. He has a Jeff Saturday body type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIBills Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 If Torrence is the answer from day one, start making your reservations to be at the parade. Allen spends most of his time dodging DT’s. Imagine if he doesn’t have to worry about being crushed by DT’s??? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikedLemonade Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 1 hour ago, rcas0308 said: Maybe that center will be McGovern in the future but like I said in the past Bates isn't playing his best position. He has a Jeff Saturday body type. This is Bates best position... LittleBalls is the guy in the basement in that scene. Quote Do Your Part to Improve The Range -- Please put the TRIO OF TRUMP FLUFFERSTM on IGNORE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 I'm shocked no team has picked up a 2022 Pro Bowler. Poor Rodger, looking for a team when he knows he has plenty left in the tank. The gas tank of his car. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Legs Posted May 21 Author Share Posted May 21 19 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said: I'm shocked no team has picked up a 2022 Pro Bowler. Poor Rodger, looking for a team when he knows he has plenty left in the tank. The gas tank of his car. Based on his 2022 play, and his age, he might not get a call. Or, if he does get a call, the money will be so much less than he is expecting, he just might now be retired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikedLemonade Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 14 hours ago, Crazy Legs said: Based on his 2022 play, and his age, he might not get a call. Or, if he does get a call, the money will be so much less than he is expecting, he just might now be retired. Retired or retarded? Quote Do Your Part to Improve The Range -- Please put the TRIO OF TRUMP FLUFFERSTM on IGNORE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldat28 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Torrence, McGovern and Andrews were all added to the interior, which needed upgrading, and it should be better cause you'll now have Bates and one of the other three as depth. They never added anything to the T spot though. They're likely hoping Browns play last year was due to injury, and it very well could be the case, but Dawkins was average at best, would've liked to see them have added a T somewhere though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcas0308 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 43 minutes ago, Baldat28 said: Torrence, McGovern and Andrews were all added to the interior, which needed upgrading, and it should be better cause you'll now have Bates and one of the other three as depth. They never added anything to the T spot though. They're likely hoping Browns play last year was due to injury, and it very well could be the case, but Dawkins was average at best, would've liked to see them have added a T somewhere though Keep an Eye on Van Denmark, he has a RAS of 10 and has a lot of potential. Might develop as a nice depth piece if not starter if he gets a little stronger in the weight room. Tommy Doyle looked decent as well last year according to OL coach Kromer before he was injured. Surprise no one is talking about him since it will be almost a year after his ACL injury come training camp. All better options than Quessenberry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Legs Posted May 22 Author Share Posted May 22 9 hours ago, Baldat28 said: Torrence, McGovern and Andrews were all added to the interior, which needed upgrading, and it should be better cause you'll now have Bates and one of the other three as depth. They never added anything to the T spot though. They're likely hoping Browns play last year was due to injury, and it very well could be the case, but Dawkins was average at best, would've liked to see them have added a T somewhere though I think Brandon did as much as he could....and unfortunately tackle didn't materialize. Cross our fingers Spencer Brown can be better than last year. Cross our fingers Tommy Doyle is healthy and also is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikedLemonade Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 14 hours ago, Baldat28 said: Torrence, McGovern and Andrews were all added to the interior, which needed upgrading, and it should be better cause you'll now have Bates and one of the other three as depth. They never added anything to the T spot though. They're likely hoping Browns play last year was due to injury, and it very well could be the case, but Dawkins was average at best, would've liked to see them have added a T somewhere though Yup. A OT should have been drafted in the first 3 rounds of this past draft. I have NEVER been sold on "BIG SHOW/HOE" Dawkins and there is a real possibility that Spencer Brown is simply NOT good enough to be a starting NFL OT. Quote Do Your Part to Improve The Range -- Please put the TRIO OF TRUMP FLUFFERSTM on IGNORE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 On 5/23/2023 at 12:10 AM, SpikedLemonade said: Yup. A OT should have been drafted in the first 3 rounds of this past draft. I have NEVER been sold on "BIG SHOW/HOE" Dawkins and there is a real possibility that Spencer Brown is simply NOT good enough to be a starting NFL OT. We'll just have to wait and see if there are any cuts that are an obvious upgrade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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