Crazy Legs Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Jordan Addison met with the #Bills “around his campus Pro Day after meeting with them formally at the #NFL scouting combine” per @AaronWilson_NFL NOTE This is not a 30 Pre-draft visit (prospect comes to Buffalo), but does indicate some interest in the player. WR Jordan Addison, USC, 5'11", 173 lbs, 30 7/8’’ arms, 4.49 forty Inside/outside wideout with the speed and agility to work confidently on all three levels of the field, but lacking the size and catch strength generally associated with high-impact performers on the next level. Addison’s route running features acceleration, dynamic steering and sudden turns at a moment’s notice. While he can get to the spot effectively, he has trouble consistently winning battles when he has coverage company beside him. While Addison failed to make the same impact he did in 2021, his usage at Pitt might be a better indicator of the type of role and production he could be capable of on the next level. Projected 1st round. Pro Comp = Tyler Lockett My take: Tyler Lockett was a 3rd round pick, and about 10 pounds heavier. Addison does have good RAC, but also has drops from time to time. He is a good WR, but you have to ask how you would use him as a #2 WR? On the outside? Does he have the size to be your #2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldat28 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 He'd be fine, reminds me a lot of Diggs, from what I've seen from him he seems like a great route runner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalochief2 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I almost think we should wait until next year for WR. Save a couple of guys this years class is full of smurfs. All the top prospects in WR class of 2024 are over 200lbs and tall. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Crazy Legs Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 On 4/3/2023 at 11:48 PM, Baldat28 said: He'd be fine, reminds me a lot of Diggs, from what I've seen from him he seems like a great route runner Diggs doesn't look like a big guy on the field right? Diggs is 6'0" and 191lbs. Addison is 5'11" 173lbs. Addison had a 11.6% drop rate at Pittsburgh (over 2 years). Gabe Davis? In his first two seasons in the NFL, Davis had a drop rate of 6.4% with six drops on 125 targets. in 2022 Gabe's drop rate increased to 9.7% with nine drops on 93 targets. We would have to be cool with a WR that has a higher drop rate than Gabe. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 I am fine with the receivers we have (I realize we need an upgrade at WR-2) if they can continue to build the OL in the draft. OL continues to be the top priority. Imagine how good the offense would be if Josh had time to throw from the pocket as well as an improved running game with the RB's doing the running. Even with the current group of receivers we have the Bills would be so much better on offense with a better OL. Last year the Bills OL ranked #26 in the league. That is unacceptable for a team that is supposed to be a Super Bowl contender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcw Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 2 hours ago, Crazy Legs said: Diggs doesn't look like a big guy on the field right? Diggs is 6'0" and 191lbs. Addison is 5'11" 173lbs. Addison had a 11.6% drop rate at Pittsburgh (over 2 years). Gabe Davis? In his first two seasons in the NFL, Davis had a drop rate of 6.4% with six drops on 125 targets. in 2022 Gabe's drop rate increased to 9.7% with nine drops on 93 targets. We would have to be cool with a WR that has a higher drop rate than Gabe. Drops certainly are a concern but sometimes the number can be deceptive. Yes Addison had an 11.6% drop rate in his two years at Pitt but one of those years he was a freshman, catching 60 passes in 10 games. That's a lot of action for a freshman. His sophomore year he had 100 catches. I don't know what type of passes these drops were but with the way Pitt focused their passing game around him defenses must have been focusing on him and the majority of these passes were highly contested rather than easy dump offs. As well, with an average yards per catch of 14.3 for his career many of these passes were down field, which have a higher % of drops. Greg Cossell, who I respect, seems to really like Addison. Id be happy with him or Flowers at 27. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Legs Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 17 minutes ago, bcw said: Drops certainly are a concern but sometimes the number can be deceptive. Yes Addison had an 11.6% drop rate in his two years at Pitt but one of those years he was a freshman, catching 60 passes in 10 games. That's a lot of action for a freshman. His sophomore year he had 100 catches. I don't know what type of passes these drops were but with the way Pitt focused their passing game around him defenses must have been focusing on him and the majority of these passes were highly contested rather than easy dump offs. As well, with an average yards per catch of 14.3 for his career many of these passes were down field, which have a higher % of drops. Greg Cossell, who I respect, seems to really like Addison. Id be happy with him or Flowers at 27. Drops are hard to evaluate. But just keep the eyes open on him. If he drops more balls than Gabe, which apparently he has, Bills fans will be calling for his head. Plus he is only 173lbs. Cole Beasley weighs 174lbs. So pretty much the same size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalochief2 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 2 hours ago, Greg said: I am fine with the receivers we have (I realize we need an upgrade at WR-2) if they can continue to build the OL in the draft. OL continues to be the top priority. Imagine how good the offense would be if Josh had time to throw from the pocket as well as an improved running game with the RB's doing the running. Even with the current group of receivers we have the Bills would be so much better on offense with a better OL. Last year the Bills OL ranked #26 in the league. That is unacceptable for a team that is supposed to be a Super Bowl contender. The style of offense we play, the play calling last year, lack of a slot, and Josh Allen’s affinity for going for the “big play” are all reasons, along with the offensive line play on why Josh scrambles so much. We have a better OL right now, than last year, add one more OT to compete with Brown. While we seemingly will have better slot play next year, we still don’t have a WR2, and I don’t know we can get one at 27 in the draft, not saying someone can’t develop into a WR2, but to expect someone we will get at or past pick 27 to step in next year and perform at that level is unrealistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcw Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 43 minutes ago, Buffalochief2 said: The style of offense we play, the play calling last year, lack of a slot, and Josh Allen’s affinity for going for the “big play” are all reasons, along with the offensive line play on why Josh scrambles so much. We have a better OL right now, than last year, add one more OT to compete with Brown. While we seemingly will have better slot play next year, we still don’t have a WR2, and I don’t know we can get one at 27 in the draft, not saying someone can’t develop into a WR2, but to expect someone we will get at or past pick 27 to step in next year and perform at that level is unrealistic. I agree. A wr draft pick is going to take time to develop into our #2, but I’m fine with that. Beane has to plan for the future and find someone who will be ready to step in when Gabe is gone next year. It looked like Shakir was ready to contribute last season but obviously McDermott didn’t trust him even when injuries started to pile up. I can’t imagine McDermott will throw a draft pick in this year and deal with the rookie mistakes even if they are a 1st round pick. We saw that with Elam sitting early. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Legs Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 5 hours ago, Greg said: I am fine with the receivers we have (I realize we need an upgrade at WR-2) if they can continue to build the OL in the draft. OL continues to be the top priority. Imagine how good the offense would be if Josh had time to throw from the pocket as well as an improved running game with the RB's doing the running. Even with the current group of receivers we have the Bills would be so much better on offense with a better OL. Last year the Bills OL ranked #26 in the league. That is unacceptable for a team that is supposed to be a Super Bowl contender. You are speaking my language. I would much rather add OL than a WR. It will make Josh better, and our existing WRs better. Sure, I would like to add Justin Jefferson or Lamar Chase to the roster, but we have a decent crop of guys now: Diggs, Gabe, Shakir, Trent Sherfield, Deonte Harty, plus Dawson Knox and Nyheim Hines. It is not like Josh is throwing to no one. Plus, this year the 3rd and 4th round will have some quality WRs if we want to add another one on top of what we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seandelevan Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Who gives a flying fuck. They ain’t drafting him….or any WR worth a damn anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach'sUncle'sSon Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 I like the guy that averaged over 20 yards per catch... is that the T-CHRISTIAN-U guy? That'll be the guy if still there... I heard Dallas likes him too. Anything CHRIST you know this coaching staff will target... IF they go for a WR... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Davis will have a monster year if they can find someone else to go deep with Diggs. Bills are hoping Harty is that guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Legs Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 4 hours ago, RichJ said: Davis will have a monster year if they can find someone else to go deep with Diggs. Bills are hoping Harty is that guy. I more diversified route tree for Gabe will certainly make Gabe appear to be "better". I happen to think Gabe is a solid WR, and a good find in the 4th round. Expectations are too high for him, IMO. He had 48 receptions, 836 yards this year and avg 17 yards per catch. That is a solid year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Legs Posted April 19 Author Share Posted April 19 Projected Draft Spot 1st round = 12th - 31st Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcw Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 I definitely don’t want to give Gabe an expensive extension next year and drafting his replacement this draft allows our pick to have a year to develop before having to really step up as the #2. I’d be really happy with Addison or Flowers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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