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Why did Brandon Beane draft LB Terrel Bernard in the 3rd round last year?


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3 hours ago, Crazy Legs said:

Which begs the question:  Why the heck did Beane use such a high pick on a LBer that might not even fit the scheme?
Milano was under contract for 2022 and 2023, so it wasn't to be Milano's replacement. 

McBeane probably was preparing for losing Edmunds and though TWO Milanos are better than one... unfortunately, even with him, we still only have ONE....

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1 hour ago, SpikedLemonade said:

You wanted to pay Edmunds $15M+/yr.

Instead of Beane paying Tremaine $18 million a year he was able to sign and pay for:

Trent Sherfield, Damien Harris, Deonte Harty, David Edwards, Kyle Allen, Taylor Rapp and Connor McGovern.

Thank about that.

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4 minutes ago, Coach'sUncle'sSon said:

McBeane probably was preparing for losing Edmunds and though TWO Milanos are better than one... unfortunately, even with him, we still only have ONE....

I dont think he has the same skill set as Milano. He has similar athleticism though. 

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2 hours ago, Crazy Legs said:

Rapp might be able to do that.    But Beane didn't know he was getting Rapp last year when he drafted Bernard at pick 89.

If he had drafted a center at 89, that would have made sense, longterm.
If he had drafted a tight end at 89, to backup Knox, that would have made sense.
Or a safety.   It would have been someone that could replace Hyde or Poyer when their contracts expired.

But I can not get what Beane was thinking by taking Bernard. 

Agree with all but TE.  At that time we had Howard on the roster.  

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Just now, Crazy Legs said:

Instead of Beane paying Tremaine $18 million a year he was able to sign and pay for:

Trent Sherfield, Damien Harris, Deonte Harty, David Edwards, Kyle Allen, Taylor Rapp and Connor McGovern.

Thank about that.

I was in on Edmunds for 13-14 million. maybe 15 on a shorter deal. While he isn't on the same level as the rest of the top tier LBs, he is still a highly regarded player around the league. My issue is that there is now a massive hole in the defense that has been predicated on having an elite athlete at MLB to function. The bills should have went after Okereke if they knew they were not going to sign Edmunds. 

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1 hour ago, SpikedLemonade said:

You wanted to pay Edmunds $15M+/yr.

No one in the Bills organization wanted to pay him what he thought he was worth, that’s why he is gone.  The argument people are making isn’t about Edmunds anymore, it’s about the fact that we have no replacement for him on the team.  As bad as you think Edmunds was, he was still much better than anyone we have now.  If you a too stupid to figure that out, the Canadian education system has let the world down once again.

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6 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

I was in on Edmunds for 13-14 million. maybe 15 on a shorter deal. While he isn't on the same level as the rest of the top tier LBs, he is still a highly regarded player around the league. My issue is that there is now a massive hole in the defense that has been predicated on having an elite athlete at MLB to function. The bills should have went after Okereke if they knew they were not going to sign Edmunds. 

11 guys on defense.

So, if our new MLB sucks, we will be playing with 10.5 guys maybe.

Hopefully Beane has a plan to replace Tremaine with someone that is at least half as good.  Maybe the new guy will be 75% as good?

I could live with that. 

 

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Just now, Crazy Legs said:

11 guys on defense.

So, if our new MLB sucks, we will be playing with 10.5 guys maybe.

Hopefully Beane has a plan to replace Tremaine with someone that is at least half as good.  Maybe the new guy will be 75% as good?

I could live with that. 

 

You think Edmunds haters are going to settle for 75% of what he did? lol

Edmunds had 5 years of experience calling plays and making sure the other 10 guys were in position. 

I expect a considerable drop off in coverage over the middle. Especially to opposing TEs. The bills were among the best teams against TEs with Edmunds at MLB. 

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2 hours ago, Crazy Legs said:

Rapp might be able to do that.    But Beane didn't know he was getting Rapp last year when he drafted Bernard at pick 89.

If he had drafted a center at 89, that would have made sense, longterm.
If he had drafted a tight end at 89, to backup Knox, that would have made sense.
Or a safety.   It would have been someone that could replace Hyde or Poyer when their contracts expired.

But I can not get what Beane was thinking by taking Bernard. 

Maybe he’s thinking he’s going to be a good tackler. 17 tackles and 2 sacks in the sugar bowl. He could probably stand to add a few lbs which he probably has by this time and going into season.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Buffalochief2 said:

No one in the Bills organization wanted to pay him what he thought he was worth, that’s why he is gone.  The argument people are making isn’t about Edmunds anymore, it’s about the fact that we have no replacement for him on the team.  As bad as you think Edmunds was, he was still much better than anyone we have now.  If you a too stupid to figure that out, the Canadian education system has let the world down once again.

You can tell the difference between the Canadian and American education system very easily -- in Canada the schools are not being shot up every month.

Edmunds is/was shit.

Beane did not properly prepare for the hole at MLB last off-season -- drafting Bernard was NOT enough -- and in Free Agency this year --Bobby Wagner signed a one year $7M contract whereas Beane paid more than that for a Back Up Offensive Guard.

So now you don't want to discuss that Edmunds is shit as I have been saying for years but rather about the hole we have at MLB.

A hole that would never have existed if Beane had fixed it as I suggested in the last draft or during the 2022 and 2023 Free Agency period.

Yes, there is a hole at MLB.

Thank you for identifying the issue for 10% of the answer.

Care to provide a solution for the remaining 90% of the answer?

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13 minutes ago, SpikedLemonade said:

You can tell the difference between the Canadian and American education system very easily -- in Canada the schools are not being shot up every month.

Edmunds is/was shit.

Edmunds us very good, but he got paid like a great player.

13 minutes ago, SpikedLemonade said:

Beane did not properly prepare for the hole at MLB last off-season -- drafting Bernard was NOT enough -- and in Free Agency this year --Bobby Wagner signed a one year $7M contract whereas Beane paid more than that for a Back Up Offensive Guard.

Wait a second. You said for weeks now that beane could just draft someone in the 4th round to fill in for Edmunds. Whats wrong with Bernard then? 

13 minutes ago, SpikedLemonade said:

So now you don't want to discuss that Edmunds is shit as I have been saying for years but rather about the hole we have at MLB.

You've avoided all my questions about the topic.

13 minutes ago, SpikedLemonade said:

A hole that would never have existed if Beane had fixed it as I suggested in the last draft or during the 2022 and 2023 Free Agency period.

But he did draft a guy. A whole round higher too.

13 minutes ago, SpikedLemonade said:

Yes, there is a hole at MLB.

Thank you for identifying the issue for 10% of the answer.

Care to provide a solution for the remaining 90% of the answer?

What's yours? Another 4th rounder?

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44 minutes ago, SpikedLemonade said:

You can tell the difference between the Canadian and American education system very easily -- in Canada the schools are not being shot up every month.

Edmunds is/was shit.

Beane did not properly prepare for the hole at MLB last off-season -- drafting Bernard was NOT enough -- and in Free Agency this year --Bobby Wagner signed a one year $7M contract whereas Beane paid more than that for a Back Up Offensive Guard.

So now you don't want to discuss that Edmunds is shit as I have been saying for years but rather about the hole we have at MLB.

A hole that would never have existed if Beane had fixed it as I suggested in the last draft or during the 2022 and 2023 Free Agency period.

Yes, there is a hole at MLB.

Thank you for identifying the issue for 10% of the answer.

Care to provide a solution for the remaining 90% of the answer?

Are Canadian even allowed to own guns.  Your government controls you so much that they tell you exactly what to do, say and think.  
 

My solution has been stated many times on this board, draft MLB sometime in first three rounds, draft DL, draft Edge.  If GMBB doesn’t get defense fixed and hit on picks this year, fire him!

What solution have you provided? Ignoring the problem doesn’t make it go away.  

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19 minutes ago, Buffalochief2 said:

Are Canadian even allowed to own guns.  Your government controls you so much that they tell you exactly what to do, say and think.  
 

My solution has been stated many times on this board, draft MLB sometime in first three rounds, draft DL, draft Edge.  If GMBB doesn’t get defense fixed and hit on picks this year, fire him!

What solution have you provided? Ignoring the problem doesn’t make it go away.  

WTF do you even know about Canada other than the false talking points you hear on right wing American "media" and parrot here?

I provided the Wagner solution.

I suggested we draft a MLB in last year's draft in the first 3 rounds when we did NOT extend Edmunds.

Now our hand is forced to do that this year when we are in desperate need of so many starting NFL OLs.

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17 minutes ago, bv said:

Maybe the answer is bean doesn't know what he doing

B-I-N-G-O!!!

Beane nailed the Franchise QB position by drafting Allen and made a good trade for the Vikings for Diggs.

Other than that, we give him a pass on some very poor drafting (especially in the 2nd round) and trading away a good OL that is an above average starter elsewhere.

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1 hour ago, SpikedLemonade said:

WTF do you even know about Canada other than the false talking points you hear on right wing American "media" and parrot here?

I provided the Wagner solution.

I suggested we draft a MLB in last year's draft in the first 3 rounds when we did NOT extend Edmunds.

Now our hand is forced to do that this year when we are in desperate need of so many starting NFL OLs.

I know more about your screwed up country than most of its citizens, including you, from the half semesters Canadian Studies elective I took in high school.  And I don’t need the liberal media telling me how wrong the left is, I have to live it.  
 

Wagner was signed and last years draft was last year, you knew both of those things before you started posting on this thread, therefore those are not solutions.  What other solution does Canadas biggest mistake have for this board.  

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With Edmunds gone, the Bills may have a pretty big problem.  Edmunds was athletic enough to make that defense function.  There is no one on the current roster that can do what Edmunds did.  Supposedly there are 3 LB in the draft that can fill that position....the best being Jack Cambell.  However, most guru's think Cambell is a upper half of 2nd round pick...so would be a huge reach at 27.  

Bills may have to trade down into the 2nd to pick the guy they need or trade up in the 2nd to select him.

 

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6 hours ago, Buffalochief2 said:

Are Canadian even allowed to own guns.  Your government controls you so much that they tell you exactly what to do, say and think.  
 

My solution has been stated many times on this board, draft MLB sometime in first three rounds, draft DL, draft Edge.  If GMBB doesn’t get defense fixed and hit on picks this year, fire him!

What solution have you provided? Ignoring the problem doesn’t make it go away.  

Fire his ass already.

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