Angry Byrds Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 2 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: Are you illiterate? 2 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: Are you illiterate? You want to take cops away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comssvet11 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Just now, ICRockets2 said: Are you illiterate? Don’t make stupid statements and you won’t look stupid Brian. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Comssvet11 Posted March 27 Popular Post Share Posted March 27 3 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said: You want to take cops away. Same guy he wants safe spots and clean needles in shoot up drugs because you aren’t stopping addiction But ban the AR-15 that will stop the gun violence. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Angry Byrds Posted March 27 Popular Post Share Posted March 27 2 minutes ago, Comssvet11 said: Same guy he wants safe spots and clean needles in shoot up drugs because you aren’t stopping addiction But ban the AR-15 that will stop the gun violence. These are the idiots our military defends while they sit in their parent’s basement and smoke dope. They need to run his ass out there on the front lines. I’m sure he would run for the border. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 26 minutes ago, Comssvet11 said: Don’t make stupid statements and you won’t look stupid Brian. who the fuck is brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 29 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said: You want to take cops away. Where did I say that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 20 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said: These are the idiots our military defends while they sit in their parent’s basement and smoke dope. They need to run his ass out there on the front lines. I’m sure he would run for the border. "I'm not hateful or a bigot, I'm a very nice and good person. Also I hope this dude is murdered." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 1 hour ago, TonyasTaters said: I am lost??? As ususal? 1 1 Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 1 hour ago, ICRockets2 said: There's nothing remotely extremist about believing child abuse is bad, but I can understand why you would disagree. Trans kids = child abuse Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 8 minutes ago, HipKat said: Trans kids = child abuse No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 42 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: No You not being aborted = child abuse Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 4 hours ago, Angry Byrds said: He can absolutely make that decision when he’s 18. I don't know if shorts from YouTube embed well but I'd like you to watch this very short clip and tell me which part of it you disagree with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinwhiteduke Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Nugent's dad was in the military. That makes him suspect to me. Both are puppets. Or govt simply doesn't mind using Nugent as a pro which ever side distraction. Bruce Springsteen was just used as well. Greatest musician ever bla bla Heavily commercialized for blue collar people. America! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 4 hours ago, ICRockets2 said: I don't know if shorts from YouTube embed well but I'd like you to watch this very short clip and tell me which part of it you disagree with. The irreversible medical and political means is the bullshit this fuckwad is pushing Study: Effects of puberty-blockers can last a lifetime Data debunk a common rationale for giving kids transgender treatment Proponents of putting gender-confused children on puberty-blocking drugs have long said there’s no harm in pressing pause on their physical development while they take time to consider their identity. “It’s completely reversible,” said Stephen Rosenthal, a pediatric endocrinologist at the University of California, San Francisco, in a 2016 cover story for UCSF magazine. “You take them off it, and they resume puberty.” But a long-term study by the United Kingdom’s leading facility for treating gender-dysphoric children found otherwise. Contrary to common beliefs about puberty-blocking drugs, the majority of children who take them do not resume puberty. In a Dec. 2 preprint of the study from the Tavistock and Portman National Health Service Foundation Trust, all but one child treated for gender dysphoria with puberty-blocking drugs went on to take cross-sex hormones to alter their sex characteristics permanently. The study also showed that children’s bone density and normal growth flatlined with puberty blockers as compared to their peers, and participants reported no improvement in their psychological well-being. The findings support a growing body of evidence showing the harm and irreparable damage of experimental medical treatments for children with gender dysphoria. The U.K. High Court issued a landmark ruling on Dec. 1 requiring doctors to seek a court order before administering puberty-blocking drugs to children under 16. The plaintiff, Keira Bell, 23, argued the Tavistock Center did not adequately warn her as a teenager of the irreversible damages of such hormone treatment. The judges said doctors failed to provide adequate scientific basis for the treatment or explain their long-term effects on children. They also chastised the center for its lack of record-keeping, including tracking the proportion of children who go on to take cross-sex hormones. The Tavistock Center published its study the day after the High Court’s ruling. The study began in 2011 and followed 44 children ages 12 to 15 for three years. Youth participants were urged to store their gametes before taking blockers, and female participants reported they did not menstruate while taking the drugs, indicating the practitioners anticipated and observed effects on the patients’ reproductive development. Endocrinologist Michael Laidlaw from Rocklin, Calif., noted that children in the study who took puberty blockers exhibited significantly less bone density than their peers. That causes stunted height and puts them at greater risk for osteoporosis and fractures in adulthood, he said. Given the study’s findings that nearly all children who take puberty blockers end up on cross-sex hormones, it is clear that the drugs do more than give children time to pause to consider their gender identity. Cross-sex hormones carry side effects including sterility, increased risk of cardiovascular disease, and increased risk of breast and uterus cancers, and other harmful psychoactive effects of high-dose hormones such as mood swings and even psychosis, Laidlaw said. “Kids are not able to understand the long-term implications of this radical treatment to the human body,” he said. “They cannot provide meaningful informed consent.” Puberty blockers were first used to treat gender dysphoria at a Dutch gender clinic in the 1990s. The so-called “Dutch protocol,” published in the European Journal of Endocrinology in 2006, tracked 55 young people with gender dysphoria who were treated with puberty blockers, put on cross-sex hormones at age 16, and underwent sex-change surgeries after they turned 18. The study had no control group to compare the results with. Still, it concluded that the treatments succeeded based on psychological functioning at least one year after surgery. At UCSF, Rosenthal began prescribing puberty blockers to gender-dysphoric youth in 2009 based on the Dutch protocol, which also informed the Endocrine Society’s clinical guidelines for treating transgender youth. On Dec. 15, the Endocrine Society posted a position statement on transgender health. It said medical intervention for gender-dysphoric youth, including puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones, and “medically indicated surgery,” was “effective, relatively safe (when appropriately monitored) … and has been established as the standard care.” Laidlaw has called the Endocrine Society’s position “highly deceptive.” Most gender-dysphoric children experience other psychological or familial problems or pre-existing trauma or autism, he said. “These kids, given time and compassionate care, should be able to become comfortable in their bodies without the harmful interventions of hormones and surgeries.” Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 6 hours ago, HipKat said: But a long-term study by the United Kingdom’s leading facility for treating gender-dysphoric children found otherwise. Contrary to common beliefs about puberty-blocking drugs, the majority of children who take them do not resume puberty. In a Dec. 2 preprint of the study from the Tavistock and Portman National Health Service Foundation Trust, all but one child treated for gender dysphoria with puberty-blocking drugs went on to take cross-sex hormones to alter their sex characteristics permanently. That is puberty. A teen taking cross-sex hormones after a course of puberty blockers will go through cross-sex puberty. That is how this works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Ok I read through the study. There's nothing in there that is even remotely alarming. If you actually read it in detail you might even start understanding that these doctors and therapists care about doing right by their patients and tailor their care to individual needs. See the section where some patients stopped puberty blockers for a few months for personal reasons before resuming treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 6 hours ago, ICRockets2 said: Ok I read through the study. There's nothing in there that is even remotely alarming. If you actually read it in detail you might even start understanding that these doctors and therapists care about doing right by their patients and tailor their care to individual needs. See the section where some patients stopped puberty blockers for a few months for personal reasons before resuming treatment. Really, so if they decide not to transition, not going through Puberty is a good thing to you??? Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Just now, HipKat said: Really, so if they decide no to transition, not going through Puberty is a good thing to you??? They would go through puberty after they stop puberty blockers. If they go on to take cross-sex hormones it will be cross-sex puberty, and if they don't they will go through their birth-sex's puberty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 40 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: They would go through puberty after they stop puberty blockers. If they go on to take cross-sex hormones it will be cross-sex puberty, and if they don't they will go through their birth-sex's puberty. That article, and others specifically talks about the effect on puberty long term from taking blockers Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 9 minutes ago, HipKat said: That article, and others specifically talks about the effect on puberty long term from taking blockers The article is wrong. Puberty blockers temporarily stop you from going through puberty, but when you stop taking them that particular medical intervention ceases. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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