Do you believe Bin Laden was killed in the Navy Seal raid and dumped in the ocean? If so, why?

[Philly'sFinest]

52 minutes ago, jamsim67 said:

Bilderburg meeting

Quote:
“We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York
Times, TIME Magazine and other great publications whose
directors have attended our meetings and respected their
promises of discretion for almost forty years.

He went on to explain:
“It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for
the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity
during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated
and prepared to march towards a world government. The
supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world
bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination
practiced in past centuries.”

David Rockefeller, Speaking at the June, 1991 Bilderberg meeting
in Baden, Germany (a meeting also attended by then-Governor
Bill Clinton and by Dan Quayle)

Who fact checks, the fact-checkers?

Fact checkers only became a thing when they wanted to stop the flow of information that was exposing the crooks and corruption within America, and our government in particular 

And we also know that many of the "fact checkers" are connected in some way, shape, or form to individuals or companies that pay them for their "service"

Fact checkers became a weapon/tool for the leftist scum to counter information that didn't work to their own benefit.

That is a fact that would be verified, but not by them

[jamsim67]

17 minutes ago, Philly'sFinest said:

Fact checkers only became a thing when they wanted to stop the flow of information that was exposing the crooks and corruption within America, and our government in particular 

And we also know that many of the "fact checkers" are connected in some way, shape, or form to individuals or companies that pay them for their "service"

Fact checkers became a weapon/tool for the leftist scum to counter information that didn't work to their own benefit.

That is a fact that would be verified, but not by them

David Rockefeller gave that speech in 1991. The fact check in question was from 2022. What took them so long?

[Philly'sFinest]

15 minutes ago, jamsim67 said:

David Rockefeller gave that speech in 1991. The fact check in question was from 2022. What took them so long?

People are starting to wake up

Fact checkers were brought into the fold to combat those who were waking up

And it was one man in particular that took on the establishment and the fake news media...so that we could start to wake up the masses

[SackMan518]

3 minutes ago, Philly'sFinest said:

Fact checkers were brought into the fold to combat those who were waking up

The Soviet Union had fact checkers after the Chernobyl disaster and accused citizens suffering from ill effects of having Radiophobia.

[jamsim67]

7 hours ago, Philly'sFinest said:

People are starting to wake up

Fact checkers were brought into the fold to combat those who were waking up

And it was one man in particular that took on the establishment and the fake news media...so that we could start to wake up the masses

I know people are waking up, more than they want us to believe and they (the darkside) are shaking in their boots. That's why we have all these pointless distractions that we should be ignoring.

[jamsim67]

10 hours ago, ICRockets2 said:

the sky is blue and all the trees are green...

the sun's as warm as a baked potaytuh...

Pretty impressive at the time for a bunch of college kids

[HipKat]

23 hours ago, Philly'sFinest said:

Fact checkers only became a thing when...

....people with unfettered access to information began weaponizing bullshit and passing it off as real and someone needed to do actual research and expose what is actually real and actually bullshit.

What's REALLY weird is how the ONLY people who hate fact-checkers are the ones spreading the bullshit.

What's even MORE weird is the people who buy into the bullshit will tell me how wrong I am in

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[shiva2999]

Going back to the topic, it's curious that not only do we have no evidence other than the government that they killed bin Laden and dumped him in the ocean, there is also no evidence for America's claim they blew Ayman al Zawahiri to kingdom come.

[jc856]

1 hour ago, shiva2999 said:

Going back to the topic, it's curious that not only do we have no evidence other than the government that they killed bin Laden and dumped him in the ocean, there is also no evidence for America's claim they blew Ayman al Zawahiri to kingdom come.

If anything can be faked, what possible proof would satisfy you?

even if it was dna, you could challenge the chain of evidence, etc.

The thing that would puzzle me is, Al-Zawahiri was reported dead many times, but never would the government confirm it.

they could have put that guy to bed many times, but didn’t.

I feel dirty trying to play devils advocate on the side of the Great Satan😂😂

[ICRockets2]

2 hours ago, jc856 said:

If anything can be faked, what possible proof would satisfy you?

even if it was dna, you could challenge the chain of evidence, etc.

 

This is precisely what he wants.  He wants as many people as possible to just decide the truth is intrinsically unknowable because it makes it harder to challenge and protest against fascist behavior.  

"Oh you can't prove I want to genocide Ukrainians, you can't prove I've kidnapped children, you can't prove my referendums were illegitimate, you can't prove we massacred people in Bucha"

He wants the Christian Nationalist government in Russia to have absolute impunity to act as cravenly as possible.

[shiva2999]

5 hours ago, jc856 said:

If anything can be faked, what possible proof would satisfy you?

even if it was dna, you could challenge the chain of evidence, etc.

The thing that would puzzle me is, Al-Zawahiri was reported dead many times, but never would the government confirm it.

they could have put that guy to bed many times, but didn’t.

I feel dirty trying to play devils advocate on the side of the Great Satan😂😂

1. I've never claimed "anything can be faked". I've merely pointed out we only have the word of your intelligence agencies that what they say is true.

2. You have no justification for making this accusation. I have merely pointed out an undeniable fact. I'm not required to justify my motives as a result.

3. Even if Zawahiri was reported dead many times with no verification (which I don't remember), what's puzzling about the lack of government confirmation? If I claim the moon is made from green cheese and it isn't confirmed by any factual evidence, is my claim believable?

4. They could have made the claim any time, but they didn't. Doesn't mean when they did make the claim it was the truth.

5. An emotional response makes it easier to push an unreasonable argument. Again, I have only pointed out there is no way to independently confirm the government's claims about the deaths of these two gentleman. Why that means I have to defend myself personally as a result should tell you something.

[shiva2999]

4 hours ago, ICRockets2 said:

This is precisely what he wants.  He wants as many people as possible to just decide the truth is intrinsically unknowable...

Because I won't take the word of proven liars as gospel, it proves I'm a bad man?

Okey dokely...

[Philly'sFinest]

14 hours ago, HipKat said:

....people with unfettered access to information began weaponizing bullshit and passing it off as real and someone needed to do actual research and expose what is actually real and actually bullshit.

What's REALLY weird is how the ONLY people who hate fact-checkers are the ones spreading the bullshit.

What's even MORE weird is the people who buy into the bullshit will tell me how wrong I am in

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You can choose to believe that if you'd like.

It's like the last few years haven't happened in your mind

[jc856]

9 hours ago, shiva2999 said:

1. I've never claimed "anything can be faked". I've merely pointed out we only have the word of your intelligence agencies that what they say is true.

2. You have no justification for making this accusation. I have merely pointed out an undeniable fact. I'm not required to justify my motives as a result.

3. Even if Zawahiri was reported dead many times with no verification (which I don't remember), what's puzzling about the lack of government confirmation? If I claim the moon is made from green cheese and it isn't confirmed by any factual evidence, is my claim believable?

4. They could have made the claim any time, but they didn't. Doesn't mean when they did make the claim it was the truth.

5. An emotional response makes it easier to push an unreasonable argument. Again, I have only pointed out there is no way to independently confirm the government's claims about the deaths of these two gentleman. Why that means I have to defend myself personally as a result should tell you something.

You believe they set charges in the World Trade Center and blew it up, right?

that’s a pretty big fakaroo by the govt. no? An entity that could pull that off could easily fake bloody battlefields in the Ukraine, I guess.

almost like a David Copperfield, making the Statue Of Liberty disappear.

al-Zawahiri was “reported” possibly killed at least twice previously.

 

im not attacking you personally, so why do you feel you have to defend “yourself”? 

 

you only have to defend your position.

which is: the US Govt lies about EVERYTHING. There might be bits of truth in it to lend credence to it, but we are being played by very bad people deep in the bowels of our govt.

 

 

 

[jc856]

13 hours ago, ICRockets2 said:

This is precisely what he wants.  He wants as many people as possible to just decide the truth is intrinsically unknowable because it makes it harder to challenge and protest against fascist behavior.  

"Oh you can't prove I want to genocide Ukrainians, you can't prove I've kidnapped children, you can't prove my referendums were illegitimate, you can't prove we massacred people in Bucha"

He wants the Christian Nationalist government in Russia to have absolute impunity to act as cravenly as possible.

Why would Shiva THE DESTROYER want fascist behavior?

he secretly wants fascism to rule?

like I told you in a pm, I just would like to know what is really going on.

in the world. Who are the puppet masters?

who? Bankers? Factions in our/other govts? 
 

no one wants to have a convo about Zionists.

do they have power? Do they have invisible tentacles around the power elite, telling them to do their bidding?

it’s the cunts that never shut up about that, 24/7/365, that neeeeeever enter those conversations.

maybe Shiva gets a little tickle on the undercarriage of his scrotum when he thinks that he’s triggering the NSA algorithms, and a guy in a plumbing van is monitoring his every keystroke…

 

[shiva2999]

1 hour ago, jc856 said:

You believe they set charges in the World Trade Center and blew it up, right?

that’s a pretty big fakaroo by the govt. no? An entity that could pull that off could easily fake bloody battlefields in the Ukraine, I guess.

almost like a David Copperfield, making the Statue Of Liberty disappear.

al-Zawahiri was “reported” possibly killed at least twice previously.

im not attacking you personally, so why do you feel you have to defend “yourself”? 

you only have to defend your position.

which is: the US Govt lies about EVERYTHING. There might be bits of truth in it to lend credence to it, but we are being played by very bad people deep in the bowels of our govt.

 

 

 

1. Yes.

2.  Yes, it's a big fakeroo. And Hollywood has been faking bloody battlefields for over a century.

3. I prefer Cris Angell making the elephant disappear from the middle of a Vegas parking lot.

4. It was reported I have possibly the biggest penis in history.

5. How am I defending "myself" rather than my reasoning?

6. Which I have been doing.

7. The US doesn't lie about everything, just the things that render an advantage and I'm sure the peeps have convinced themselves it's for the greater good of the USA.

[ICRockets2]

1 hour ago, jc856 said:

 

no one wants to have a convo about Zionists.

do they have power?

Yes.
 

1 hour ago, jc856 said:

Do they have invisible tentacles around the power elite, telling them to do their bidding?

No.  They have allies in the US government, which is disproportionately populated by evangelical Christians.  They see Israel as the key to the Rapture.  

[HipKat]

8 hours ago, Philly'sFinest said:

You can choose to believe that if you'd like.

It's like the last few years haven't happened in your mind

More like, the last few years that happened in your mind aren't what really happened