ICRockets2 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 7 minutes ago, RichJ said: so whats the problem if a parent thinks his child is safer in a state that would care and try to cure his/her disorder rather than mutilate him/herself especially if the child is a minor? When the child turns 18, he/she can proceed with whatever he/she wants to do. Being trans isn't a disorder, and conversion therapy is proven not to work, so I'd say those are pretty obvious problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 2 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said: no its not. yes it is . Removing a part of ones reproductive organ does not mean the entire organ is removed. I wont dumb that down for you. Can you still have children naturally if you are circumcised? Can you have children NATURALLY if your weiner and testicles are cut off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 5 minutes ago, RichJ said: You and icr are such liars. I believe in state to govern itself over federal unless its something that affects the entire nation. Example.....If one the people of a state wants to legalize abortion, so be it. If another wants to ban abortion, so be it. Actually , right winger believe in individual right. You lefties are tyrants who think individual rights should be suppressed . In this case, he/she is a child. Not old enough to make rash decisions otherwise, we'd be giving them guns. Why stop at the state? Why not a more localized county rights? I guess you are just for big government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 7 minutes ago, SackMan518 said: I like it. Protect the children at all costs. As Jesus said, "But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea." Being trans isn't a sin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 Just now, RichJ said: yes it is . Removing a part of ones reproductive organ does not mean the entire organ is removed. I wont dumb that down for you. Can you still have children naturally if you are circumcised? Can you have children NATURALLY if your weiner and testicles are cut off? Its still mutilation dumbass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, ICRockets2 said: Being trans isn't a disorder, and conversion therapy is proven not to work, so I'd say those are pretty obvious problems. yes it is. You want me to accept that its normal and I wont. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 7 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said: no its not. Well, it is, in the sense that circumcision is actual child mutilation and gender-affirming care is not. It's a false equivalency but Rich is the one making it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, f8ta1ity54 said: I guess you are just for big government. LOL. Leftist tactic of accusing the opposite side of what they are. Thats old . Save your BS for sheep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 Just now, ICRockets2 said: Being trans isn't a sin I wouldn't give a fuck it was. Jesus isn't my god, so they can fuck off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, ICRockets2 said: . It's a false equivalency well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 9 minutes ago, RichJ said: You and icr are such liars. I believe in state to govern itself over federal unless its something that affects the entire nation. Example.....If one the people of a state wants to legalize abortion, so be it. If another wants to ban abortion, so be it. Actually , right winger believe in individual right. You lefties are tyrants who think individual rights should be suppressed . In this case, he/she is a child. Not old enough to make rash decisions otherwise, we'd be giving them guns. It's not a rash decision. It's a decision they spend YEARS mulling over with doctors and therapists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 2 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: Being trans isn't a sin maybe in your religion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 Just now, RichJ said: LOL. Leftist tactic of accusing the opposite side of what they are. Thats old . Save your BS for sheep. wait, so why shouldn't it be left to county rights? What's your argument for why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, ICRockets2 said: It's a decision they spend YEARS mulling over with doctors and therapists. you mean activists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 3 minutes ago, RichJ said: yes it is. You want me to accept that its normal and I wont. It's not "normal" in the sense that it is a small subset of humanity, but it IS natural. Some people just ARE trans, whether you like it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, f8ta1ity54 said: wait, so why shouldn't it be left to county rights? What's your argument for why not? there are certain things that should be left to counties to decide. This isnt one of them. Should we simply pay county tax and no state tax? I'm all for that actually. I feel bad for inner city people who are ALREADY suffering under democrat/leftist rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, ICRockets2 said: It's not "normal" in the sense that it is a small subset of humanity, but it IS natural. Some people just ARE trans, whether you like it or not. those some people have a disorder. You're not changing my mind with your delusions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 4 minutes ago, RichJ said: well said. now finish the sentence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 4 minutes ago, RichJ said: maybe in your religion. Not in yours either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, ICRockets2 said: now finish the sentence I did. Not my problem its not acceptable to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, RichJ said: there are certain things that should be left to counties to decide. This isnt one of them. How did you determine that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 4 minutes ago, RichJ said: you mean activists. No, I don't. I mean doctors and therapists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, RichJ said: those some people have a disorder. No they don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, ICRockets2 said: Not in yours either fi you say so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, RichJ said: I did. Not my problem its not acceptable to you. What did I say after I said "it's a false equivalency" Go on, quote the rest of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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