f8ta1ity54 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just some more fascism coming from the state of florida. A New Bill Could Legalize Kidnapping Trans Kids by Their Parents (vice.com) A new bill in Florida could let parents take their child from their other parent or across state lines if the child is receiving gender-affirming health care. A newly introduced bill in Florida could let a parent kidnap their children and bring them across state lines if the parent believes that the child is receiving gender-affirming health care—or even if the child is simply “at risk” of getting that care. “A court may not treat a parent′s removal of a child from another parent or from another state as unjustifiable conduct or child abuse,” reads the bill, introduced Friday by Republican state Sen. Clay Yarborough. The bill would also let any court step in to determine custody if a child is getting gender-affirming health care. And it would block any public agency from spending money on gender-affirming care, leaving people who depend on the government for help affording this care to fend for themselves. “A transphobic parent could kidnap their trans child in violation of custody agreements and abscond to Florida and be protected by Florida law under this despite likely committing felony kidnapping in their home state,” Alejandra Caraballo, a clinical instructor at Harvard Law School’s Cyberlaw Clinic, tweeted of the bill. Speaking of all the bills targeting trans folks now swirling through Florida’s state legislature, Caraballo added, “This is a full elimination of recognition and a limitation on access to care for all trans people, including adults.” This bill is only the latest volley in the nationwide battle over the rights of trans and nonbinary children. So far, at least five states have banned providers from offering gender-affirming care to minors, even if their parents support it. Three of those states—Mississippi, Utah, and South Dakota—have passed these bans in the last month. Meanwhile, federal courts have blocked these laws from taking effect in Arkansas and Alabama. The South Dakota law would also force trans youth to detransition, because it only lets doctors who treat trans youth have one year to stop providing gender-affirming care. Opposition to trans and nonbinary youth’s right to care is now a common tactic in the GOP playbook. In 2022, Republican candidates and anti-LGBTQ groups spent upwards of $50 million on ads that primarily target trans youth, according to research by the Human Rights Campaign. Trans and nonbinary childrenalready face staggering rates of depression, anxiety, and suicidal ideation. But letting them use puberty blockers, hormones, and gender-affirming surgeries have all been linked to improving their mental health. These are all forms of health care that would lead kids’ kidnapping to be justified under this new Florida bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 A transphobic parent could kidnap their trans child in violation of custody agreements and abscond to Florida and be protected by Florida law under this despite likely committing felony kidnapping in their home state,” Alejandra Caraballo, a clinical instructor at Harvard Law School’s Cyberlaw Clinic, Why would a parent who FEARS trans take his trans child? Harvard ,a woke University should be downgraded to a democrat inner city community college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 19 minutes ago, RichJ said: A transphobic parent could kidnap their trans child in violation of custody agreements and abscond to Florida and be protected by Florida law under this despite likely committing felony kidnapping in their home state,” Alejandra Caraballo, a clinical instructor at Harvard Law School’s Cyberlaw Clinic, Why would a parent who FEARS trans take his trans child? Harvard ,a woke University should be downgraded to a democrat inner city community college. the plan would be to kidnap the child from out of state and bring them to Florida where there would be no gender affirming care. Cruelty is the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 26 minutes ago, RichJ said: A transphobic parent could kidnap their trans child in violation of custody agreements and abscond to Florida and be protected by Florida law under this despite likely committing felony kidnapping in their home state,” Alejandra Caraballo, a clinical instructor at Harvard Law School’s Cyberlaw Clinic, Why would a parent who FEARS trans take his trans child? Harvard ,a woke University should be downgraded to a democrat inner city community college. How are you all THIS FUCKING STUPID? A PHOBIA IS NOT A FEAR OF SOMETHING. IT IS A FEAR OF OR AVERSION TO SOMETHING. HYDROPHOBIC MATERIAL IS NOT AFRAID OF MOISTURE, IT REPELS IT. TRANSPHOBIC PEOPLE ARE NOT AFRAID OF TRANS PEOPLE, YOU ARE REPULSED BY THEM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 13 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said: the plan would be to kidnap the child from out of state and bring them to Florida where there would be no gender affirming care. Cruelty is the point. Heres a hypothetical for you sonce you love them, Let's say one of the parent does not agree that a child should be mutilated but they live in CA or some sick demented woke state , who gets their way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 8 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: How are you all THIS FUCKING STUPID? A PHOBIA IS NOT A FEAR OF SOMETHING. IT IS A FEAR OF OR AVERSION TO SOMETHING. HYDROPHOBIC MATERIAL IS NOT AFRAID OF MOISTURE, IT REPELS IT. TRANSPHOBIC PEOPLE ARE NOT AFRAID OF TRANS PEOPLE, YOU ARE REPULSED BY THEM. Making up tou own language as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 23 minutes ago, RichJ said: Making up tou own language as usual. No, this has always been what the word means. They just only teach 5 year olds the first part because 5 year olds are idiots. And since you sadly never graduated to 1st grade you never got the continuing education you so desperately needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 24 minutes ago, RichJ said: Heres a hypothetical for you sonce you love them, Let's say one of the parent does not agree that a child should be mutilated but they live in CA or some sick demented woke state , who gets their way? So are you saying that state's rights don't apply here? If they are living in a woke state, getting gender affirming care, (which is supported by the medical community) why should we let a happy child be abducted against their will to a red state hell hole where they will be miserable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 26 minutes ago, RichJ said: Heres a hypothetical for you sonce you love them, Let's say one of the parent does not agree that a child should be mutilated but they live in CA or some sick demented woke state , who gets their way? I love how you dumb pieces of trash know that if you simply described things accurately it would completely take the wind out of your sails so you have to say retarded shit about mutilation. You're such fucking drama queens 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 2 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: I love how you dumb pieces of trash know that if you simply described things accurately it would completely take the wind out of your sails so you have to say retarded shit about mutilation. You're such fucking drama queens all while supporting circumcision, which is actually genital mutilation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, f8ta1ity54 said: all while supporting circumcision, which is actually genital mutilation. Rich likes to bring up John Money, a man all pro-LGBT people are fucking THRILLED to call a worthless bitch failure 10 times a day because fuck that worthless bitch failure, but he'll overlook the fact that what he did to David Reimer was the result of a botched circumcision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 6 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said: So are you saying that state's rights don't apply here? If they are living in a woke state, getting gender affirming care, (which is supported by the medical community) why should we let a happy child be abducted against their will to a red state hell hole where they will be miserable? Depends how you look at it. You childless activists dont want to treat the disorder, you want children of other people that are not even yours , mutilated. Transgender adolescents were 7.6 times as likely to attempt suicide as cisgender peers. They also found females attracted to other females were 3.6 times more likely to think about suicide and 3.3 times more likely to attempt suicide compared to heterosexual teens. Teens attracted to multiple genders had a 2.5 times higher risk of suicidal ideation and 2.8 times higher risk of attempting suicide. Teens still questioning their sexual orientation had double the risk of attempting suicide. The researchers also took into account reported incidents of bullyingTrusted Source and cyberbullyingTrusted Source by the teens in their sample. “Gender and sexual minority youth are often targets of bullying and cyber-bullying,” Dr. Colman said, adding: “We wanted to see how much of the increased suicidality in these youth could be explained by bullying and cyberbullying, and found that it only partially explained it.” https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/transgender-teens-7-6-times-more-likely-to-attempt-suicide#Increased-suicidal-ideation-and-attempts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Another hypothetical. Lets say there's a couple thats expecting a child, lives in a state that bans abortion. The expectant father is pro life and thinks abortion is MURDER and the expectant mother wants to kill their baby. Should she be allowed to go to a state where abortion is legal and abort the pregnancy without the father consent? Should she be protected by the state she is going to have that abortion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 6 minutes ago, RichJ said: Depends how you look at it. You childless activists dont want to treat the disorder, you want children of other people that are not even yours , mutilated. Transgender adolescents were 7.6 times as likely to attempt suicide as cisgender peers. They also found females attracted to other females were 3.6 times more likely to think about suicide and 3.3 times more likely to attempt suicide compared to heterosexual teens. Teens attracted to multiple genders had a 2.5 times higher risk of suicidal ideation and 2.8 times higher risk of attempting suicide. Teens still questioning their sexual orientation had double the risk of attempting suicide. The researchers also took into account reported incidents of bullyingTrusted Source and cyberbullyingTrusted Source by the teens in their sample. “Gender and sexual minority youth are often targets of bullying and cyber-bullying,” Dr. Colman said, adding: “We wanted to see how much of the increased suicidality in these youth could be explained by bullying and cyberbullying, and found that it only partially explained it.” https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/transgender-teens-7-6-times-more-likely-to-attempt-suicide#Increased-suicidal-ideation-and-attempts Why did you leave out this part? “They need safe places where they can explore and express their true selves,” he explained. “Furthermore, they need to be consulted and included when suicide prevention programs are designed. They know better than we do as to what will serve them best.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 3 minutes ago, RichJ said: Another hypothetical. Lets say there's a couple thats expecting a child, lives in a state that bans abortion. The expectant father is pro life and thinks abortion is MURDER and the expectant mother wants to kill their baby. Should she be allowed to go to a state where abortion is legal and abort the pregnancy without the father consent? Should she be protected by the state she is going to have that abortion? Yes, without question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 25 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said: all while supporting circumcision, which is actually genital mutilation. false equivalency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, ICRockets2 said: Why did you leave out this part? “They need safe places where they can explore and express their true selves,” he explained. “Furthermore, they need to be consulted and included when suicide prevention programs are designed. They know better than we do as to what will serve them best.” the can explore and express themselves without mutilating their bodies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 5 minutes ago, RichJ said: Another hypothetical. Lets say there's a couple thats expecting a child, lives in a state that bans abortion. The expectant father is pro life and thinks abortion is MURDER and the expectant mother wants to kill their baby. Should she be allowed to go to a state where abortion is legal and abort the pregnancy without the father consent? Should she be protected by the state she is going to have that abortion? Yes. I like how you believe in "states rights" but not the rights of the individual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 6 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: Yes, without question. so whats the problem if a parent thinks his child is safer in a state that would care and try to cure his/her disorder rather than mutilate him/herself especially if the child is a minor? When the child turns 18, he/she can proceed with whatever he/she wants to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SackMan518 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 I like it. Protect the children at all costs. As Jesus said, "But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea." Quote Sack "The Buffalo Range's TRUSTED News Source!" “When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” ~ Dresden James Parler @NYexile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 5 minutes ago, RichJ said: false equivalency no its not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 5 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said: Yes. I like how you believe in "states rights" but not the rights of the individual. You and icr are such liars. I believe in state to govern itself over federal unless its something that affects the entire nation. Example.....If one the people of a state wants to legalize abortion, so be it. If another wants to ban abortion, so be it. Actually , right winger believe in individual right. You lefties are tyrants who think individual rights should be suppressed . In this case, he/she is a child. Not old enough to make rash decisions otherwise, we'd be giving them guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 Just now, RichJ said: actually , right winger believe in individual right. You lefties are tyrants who think individual rights should be suppressed . In this case, he/she is a child. Not old enough to make rash decisions otherwise, we'd be giving them guns. does the mother have a right to an abortion? No? So you're not for individual rights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 3 minutes ago, RichJ said: so whats the problem if a parent thinks his child is safer in a state that would care and try to cure his disorder rather than mutilate him/herself especially if the child is a minor? When the child turns 18, he/she can proceed with whatever he/she wants to do. so whats the problem with gender affirming care such as puberty blockers that would allow someone to make that decision when they are older? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 9 minutes ago, RichJ said: the can explore and express themselves without mutilating their bodies. Great, so puberty blockers and hormones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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