ICRockets2 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 12 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said: You’re right it does kill people, and the ones you trust want to defund and have started to defund police and the death rate is going up in cities where they are cutting back. Congrats you are killing people with your politics. Do you actually know what defunding the police means? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, ICRockets2 said: Do you actually know what defunding the police means? Of course!! That’s why i said it and it’s the reason violent crimes have gone up in places where cut backs have been made. We went through this few days ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, Angry Byrds said: Of course!! Go on, then. Define it, show me where it's happening, and show me that crime rates are going up only in those cities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 9 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: Go on, then. Define it, show me where it's happening, and show me that crime rates are going up only in those cities. I did Asheville and Portland I already showed you this. Cutbacks have caused violent crime to go up in both cities. I’m not going through this with you again. You just pick some bull shit out like “oh less cops getting bjs from prostitutes”. Or whatever bs you said last time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, Angry Byrds said: I did Asheville and Portland I already showed you this. Cutbacks have caused violent crime to go up in both cities. I’m not going through this with you again. You just pick some bull shit out like “oh less cops getting bjs from prostitutes”. Or whatever bs you said last time. lol you didn't understand what I said at all last time. I asked you to show me those cities were getting worse, and one of the links you provided simply said that the pigs were crying because they weren't being sufficiently thanked by random people on the street. The thing about people not sucking them off was FUCKING METAPHORICAL, YOU BRAINLESS SHIT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said: I did Asheville and Portland I already showed you this. Cutbacks have caused violent crime to go up in both cities. You didn't show that at all. You did not say a single fucking word about violent crime going up in either Portland or Asheville. You also never mentioned police getting defunded. You said there were fewer cops in Asheville, you didn't say SHIT about that being the result of defunding. Also, you still haven't defined what defunding the police means. Go on. Stop being a lazy piece of shit and show your fucking work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamsim67 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 19 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: I don't care. I care about what works, and safe injection sites provably work. It's better for them. Safe injection sites also mean they're safe from the crime that drug addicts cause when trying to get their fix a different way. Yes. Because that's our job societally. It is, to quote Scanlon, what we owe to each other. No No. I'm past the point of caring about whats good for the people who made a conscious decision to live their life this way. If they want help, and some do, there other alternatives. And our job as a society, is not to take care of those who make mistakes. There are people out there who would gladly contribute, and that's fine. There choice and all. But forcibly taking money from people to pay for something like this is not right. In fact, all this stuff costs money. Money in which the forgotten man (the ones paying for it) may not have. Why do you believe that everyone who works should be a surrogate parent to those with a drug problem (as well as other issues)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc856 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 4 hours ago, TonyasTaters said: I look damn good in that hat... Notice my intensity. Brian, is that you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 2 minutes ago, jamsim67 said: In fact, all this stuff costs money. Money in which the forgotten man (the ones paying for it) may not have. I don't advocate for raising taxes on people who don't have the money to pay more taxes. I advocate for raising taxes on corporations and on people making millions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, jamsim67 said: No No. I'm past the point of caring about whats good for the people who made a conscious decision to live their life this way. If they want help, and some do, there other alternatives. So when you ran out of arguments you just decided to fall back on reactionary bullshit. You can't say "I don't want to be a surrogate parent" and then insist that this paternalistic horseshit is good politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 5 minutes ago, jamsim67 said: And our job as a society, is not to take care of those who make mistakes. Yes it is. "There but for the grace of God go I" and all that jazz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamsim67 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, ICRockets2 said: So when you ran out of arguments you just decided to fall back on reactionary bullshit. You can't say "I don't want to be a surrogate parent" and then insist that this paternalistic horseshit is good politics. Actually, same arguments. You just refuse to listen. Seems to be a pattern with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamsim67 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, ICRockets2 said: Yes it is. "There but for the grace of God go I" and all that jazz. Then by all means, go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Just now, jamsim67 said: Actually, same arguments. You just refuse to listen. Seems to be a pattern with you "I'm fine with decriminalizing drugs" turned into "I have no interest in making changes to public policy if it means making life better for addicts" so no it isn't the same arguments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, jamsim67 said: Then by all means, go for it. But you don't mean that, because you're hellbent on voting for people who won't do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamsim67 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 42 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: But you don't mean that, because you're hellbent on voting for people who won't do it. Thank you for clarifying what I meant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 8 minutes ago, jamsim67 said: Thank you for clarifying what I meant You're welcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Another tds thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamsim67 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 18 minutes ago, RichJ said: Another tds thread. Yeah. You'd think I'd learn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted March 13 Author Share Posted March 13 7 hours ago, jamsim67 said: Yes, we get it, you hate Trump. However, you never seem to tell us the problem you have with Making America Great. Nothing, Trump made America worse 7 hours ago, jamsim67 said: There are MAGA's who identify as Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians and Independents, all wanting America to be great. That's a lie 7 hours ago, jamsim67 said: Or maybe they just see where the country, and dollar is heading with the usual Democrat vs Republican yawn fest we usually get and they hope that a vote for Donald Trump will help stave that off, and possibly really build back better. <<< See what I did there? Trump passed ZERO major legislation other than his destructive to the Middle Class tax plan and Warped Speed. And he spent over 7 TRILLION dollars in 4 years. Hows that for some fiscal responsibility? Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted March 13 Author Share Posted March 13 7 hours ago, ICRockets2 said: But you don't want America to be great. You want it to be "great again" which means your explicit priority is moving backwards. The problem is, the avenues available for making America great require us to move forward into the future. Investing in green technology, becoming the world leader in climate-friendly energy solutions, would make America great. Expanding human rights to protect queer and trans people would make America great. Expanding democracy to the workplace would make America great. Decriminalizing drugs, opening up safe injection sites, and treating addiction as a medical issue instead of something to throw people in jail over would make America a beacon of innovation to the world and- thus- great. But you don't want any of that. You want us to go back to the days of redlining, of the Jim Crow South, of prohibition, of fossil fuels dominating the scene. Your definition of "great" would suffocate the planet. Because most of the shit you just posted is targeting the smallest demographics. That's only making it great for THOSE demographics, that just happen to be pet causes of yours. For the rest of us, it's laughable. Safe injection sites.... fuck right off. You're not just a groomer, you're a drug pusher, too. 1 Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted March 13 Author Share Posted March 13 6 hours ago, Angry Byrds said: I was just thinking about how in 4 more years under Trump this nation would have been unrecognizable and look just like 1940s Nazi Germany. Trump probably would have thrown everyone but whitey in concentration camps including Jews and dentists, and taken over the government as the new Nazi king of the United States of Donald until he died and his sons took over. Thank God Biden saved us from this nightmare I dunno about all that but the comparisons I made are pretty thought-provoking Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted March 13 Author Share Posted March 13 6 hours ago, jamsim67 said: Why can't America be great again for everybody? Because Trump and the MAGA goal is to eliminate the Left - the larger of the two political parties 6 hours ago, jamsim67 said: Green technology? Do you think there are political leaders out there who give a flying fuck about green technology? It's just a distraction. Something else to keep us fighting with each other, while those in charge make a profit and keep the system in place. It's not ready for prime time - mostly because of the politicalization - but it IS the future. Other countries who are embracing it are leaving us behind 6 hours ago, jamsim67 said: And democracy in the work-place will do what? So the majority rules? Awesome. I'm hoping he means things like better paid time off for family issues, higher wages, etc and not his typical Socialism crap Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted March 13 Author Share Posted March 13 5 hours ago, ICRockets2 said: Of course we'd keep educating people about drugs. Decriminalizing doesn't mean you encourage people to try coke or meth or heroin. It just means drug addiction gets treated as a medical crisis rather than as something we need to enact draconian measures to combat. Safe injection sites help because the idea is you give people a place to do drugs away from the public and you task people with running the place who are dedicated to convincing the addicts to go to rehab. You create a non-judgmental space where you recognize they have to like shoot up or whatever to avoid withdrawal symptoms, but you also make sure they know that the same people helping them do so are there to help them kick the habit when they're ready. This has been proven to work in Portugal. It just means giving them free drugs and a safer place to get fucked up. I'm sure they wanna get off drugs, really. Just ask them - after this bump. Maybe we should just send them all to Portugal 5 hours ago, ICRockets2 said: Remember, the slogan "America First" originated with a pro-Nazi party in the 1930s. I believe they know what they're doing when they promote this sentiment. If you disagree, that would mean that you're supporting people who have an appallingly meager grasp on US history. Why the fuck would you trust the competency of those people enough to want them in charge? Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted March 13 Author Share Posted March 13 5 hours ago, ICRockets2 said: You have enthusiastically defended Ron DeSantis you lying sack of shit More sarcasm Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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