"Nice of FLOTUS to encourage the diminishment of women on ‘international women's day.’

[HipKat]

44 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said:

You're saying this as though you think it's a regrettable truth of the world, but you GLEEFULLY attack trans people every single fucking day.  You are incapable of engaging in good faith.

Telling the truth is not attacking. I never said kill all trans people but don't be blind to the fact that Trans in itself is a form of mental illness at it's very core. Men are not women in the wrong body. That's purely an emotional  thing. There is no, none, zero physical reason for it.

[HipKat]

55 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said:

You know like 99,9% of people don't know their chromosomes right?

They don't need to. A dog doesn't know why it's a dog. It's just a dog because it's DNA dictates it be a dog

[ICRockets2]

1 hour ago, LiterateStylish said:

We were not talking about implementation or feasibility. It was a thought experience.

Oh. 

Just
Asking
Questions, were you?

[ICRockets2]

1 hour ago, LiterateStylish said:

Company A has a history of poor hiring and firing practices of employees with asian ethnicity. In order to fix this issue, the company decides to pass a rule that asians are excluded from being fired for the next 2 years.

Is this discriminatory?

I'm not sure where I would land on this, but it is disanalogous.  This rule does not exist because Asian people exist.  It exists because of a pattern of bad behavior on behalf of the company.  

I've asked you to demonstrate a pattern of bad behavior with regards to trans women and women's spaces.  You have failed, to the extent you have even tried.  

[ICRockets2]

55 minutes ago, HipKat said:

Trans in itself is a form of mental illness at it's very core. 

No it isn't.  No reputable psychiatric organization describes it that way. 

[ICRockets2]

59 minutes ago, HipKat said:

There is no, none, zero physical reason for it.

I disagree.  I think in a lot of cases the hormone wash you receive in the womb affects us in ways that can then be....catalyzed, for lack of a better word, into psychological distress.

[ICRockets2]

1 hour ago, HipKat said:

They don't need to. A dog doesn't know why it's a dog. It's just a dog because it's DNA dictates it be a dog

Yeah but there's no such thing, as far as I know, of an animal that looks like a dog except with cat DNA.  There is such a thing between male and female.  There are men/males in every sense of the term with no Y chromosome.  There are women/females in every sense of the term without the 2nd X.  Without specific tests being performed, none of us would have any way of knowing our chromosomes.  We can make safe GUESSES, but if we're going to make this a standard by which we craft public policy we need to consider just HOW impractical it is.  

Of course Lit has acknowledged he's just trolling, so this is a bit of a pointless sidetrack, but whatever I'm high enough that I don't mind hearing myself clicketyclack.  

[HipKat]

10 hours ago, ICRockets2 said:

No it isn't.  No reputable psychiatric organization describes it that way. 

That’s because they don’t want to be ostracized for going against what has become a civil movement. The fact of the matter is, to have strong, inclinations, that you are not the gender that you were born, or the sex, that you were born is a product of mental illness. Just like any other mental illness. 

[HipKat]

10 hours ago, ICRockets2 said:

I disagree.  I think in a lot of cases the hormone wash you receive in the womb affects us in ways that can then be....catalyzed, for lack of a better word, into psychological distress.

Psychological distress, a.k.a. mental illness

[LiterateStylish]

12 hours ago, ICRockets2 said:

I'm not sure where I would land on this, but it is disanalogous.  This rule does not exist because Asian people exist.  It exists because of a pattern of bad behavior on behalf of the company.  

I've asked you to demonstrate a pattern of bad behavior with regards to trans women and women's spaces.  You have failed, to the extent you have even tried.  

I didn't try, because it doesnt matter to the thought experiment. 

You are trying - desperately - to push the conversation in that direction because you know there is no answer to my question. That was by design. 

[LiterateStylish]

12 hours ago, ICRockets2 said:

Oh. 

Just
Asking
Questions, were you?

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/thought-experiment/

[ICRockets2]

2 hours ago, HipKat said:

The fact of the matter is, to have strong, inclinations, that you are not the gender that you were born, or the sex, that you were born is a product of mental illness. Just like any other mental illness. 

No it isn't.  It's just a thing that some people experience.  

 

 

2 hours ago, HipKat said:

That’s because they don’t want to be ostracized for going against what has become a civil movement.

This is not how science works or has ever worked.  

[ICRockets2]

2 hours ago, HipKat said:

Psychological distress, a.k.a. mental illness

No.  Psychological distress is not synonymous with mental illness.  Are you ACTUALLY retarded?  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_distress#:~:text=Differences from mental disorder,-Some psychiatrists may&text="Mental distress" has a wider,ill' in a medical sense.
 

[ICRockets2]

57 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said:

I didn't try, because it doesnt matter to the thought experiment. 

You are trying - desperately - to push the conversation in that direction because you know there is no answer to my question. That was by design. 

Oh ok, well if you're going to admit you're not engaging in good faith, I'll stop responding to you entirely.

[HipKat]

8 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said:

No it isn't.  It's just a thing that some people experience. 

In their minds that they manifest into their reality. It's still a product of mental illness

 

[ICRockets2]

1 hour ago, LiterateStylish said:

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/thought-experiment/

No, you were doing this:

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions

Have fun JAQing off without my participation from now on

[ICRockets2]

Just now, HipKat said:

In their minds that they manifest into their reality. It's still a product of mental illness

 

It isn't, and the psychiatric community would say the same thing.

[HipKat]

5 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said:

No.  Psychological distress is not synonymous with mental illness.  Are you ACTUALLY retarded?  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_distress#:~:text=Differences from mental disorder,-Some psychiatrists may&text="Mental distress" has a wider,ill' in a medical sense.
 

I don't have to click on the link to see Mental Distress is still an illness

[ICRockets2]

Just now, HipKat said:

I don't have to click on the link to see Mental Distress is still an illness

It specifically says in the link that it isn't, so I would recommend clicking it.

[HipKat]

Just now, ICRockets2 said:

It isn't, and the psychiatric community would say the same thing.

Where's that meme about science following it's funding?

[HipKat]

Just now, ICRockets2 said:

It specifically says in the link that it isn't, so I would recommend clicking it.

Do you even read the things you post??

Some psychiatrists may&text="Mental distress" has a wider,ill' in a medical sense.

 

Mental distress or psychological distress encompasses the symptoms and experiences of a person's internal life that are commonly held to be troubling, confusing or out of the ordinary. Mental distress can potentially lead to a change of behavior, affect a person's emotions in a negative way, and affect their relationships with the people around them.

Certain traumatic life experiences (such as bereavement, stress, lack of sleep, use of drugs, assault, abuse, or accidents^[which?]) can induce mental distress. Those who are members of vulnerable populations might experience discrimination that places them at increased risk for experiencing mental distress as well. 

 

[ICRockets2]

Just now, HipKat said:

Where's that meme about science following it's funding?

It takes a special kind of retard to be THIS divorced from reality.

[ICRockets2]

Just now, HipKat said:

Do you even read the things you post??

Some psychiatrists may&text="Mental distress" has a wider,ill' in a medical sense.

 

Mental distress or psychological distress encompasses the symptoms and experiences of a person's internal life that are commonly held to be troubling, confusing or out of the ordinary. Mental distress can potentially lead to a change of behavior, affect a person's emotions in a negative way, and affect their relationships with the people around them.

Certain traumatic life experiences (such as bereavement, stress, lack of sleep, use of drugs, assault, abuse, or accidents^[which?]) can induce mental distress. Those who are members of vulnerable populations might experience discrimination that places them at increased risk for experiencing mental distress as well. 

 

Yeah, I read all of that, and it says what I said.  Mental distress is not the same as mental illness.

[ICRockets2]

It's very frustrating talking to you, but it's REALLY funny to watch such a shattered brain try to find new ways of avoiding reality

If they wanted to create The Science of Cope you'd be an ideal Patient Zero

[HipKat]

6 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said:

It takes a special kind of retard to be THIS divorced from reality.

You said that in the mirror, right?