"Nice of FLOTUS to encourage the diminishment of women on ‘international women's day.’

[ICRockets2]

4 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiohIW4zdT9AhVyTDABHeDQA9MQtwJ6BAg9EAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DURz-RYEOaig&usg=AOvVaw3bh_AEAHb7X9Vxs0BGNtJN

Can you show me all the trans Olympic medalists?

[Angry Byrds]

19 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said:

Can you show me all the trans Olympic medalists?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj3h6nO0tT9AhVbVTABHV7WAJAQFnoECBwQAw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nbcnews.com%2Fnbc-out%2Fout-news%2Ftrans-swimmer-lia-thomas-nominated-ncaa-woman-year-award-rcna38681&usg=AOvVaw3mpdT1bkuMOKwfoHGJolIT
 

What would it matter you will still be in denial 

[Angry Byrds]

22 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said:

Can you show me all the trans Olympic medalists?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwizorvO09T9AhUhsDEKHVogAXAQFnoECAQQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.swimmingworldmagazine.com%2Fnews%2Fa-look-at-the-numbers-and-times-no-denying-the-advantages-of-lia-thomas%2F&usg=AOvVaw3fgX3YOs-LwVRefejItVP1

 

this guy wasn’t even in the top 100 of men’s 

[LiterateStylish]

54 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said:

That's always been the issue.  The only reason I've bothered with other arguments is because of your virulent anti-empiricism.

No, just a week ago you said safety was not the issue. When I had your mind in twists about scenarios where it’s unsafe for trans people to be in woman’s spaces.

[ICRockets2]

1 minute ago, Angry Byrds said:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwizorvO09T9AhUhsDEKHVogAXAQFnoECAQQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.swimmingworldmagazine.com%2Fnews%2Fa-look-at-the-numbers-and-times-no-denying-the-advantages-of-lia-thomas%2F&usg=AOvVaw3fgX3YOs-LwVRefejItVP1

 

this guy wasn’t even in the top 100 of men’s 

Incorrect.  I've gone over this before.  Lia Thomas qualified for the conference championships in Men's 500m, 1000m, and 1650m her freshman season, then qualified for the same 3 events her sophomore year.  She finished 2nd in all 3 that season, and missed out on qualifying for Nationals by less than a second in the 1650.  Then she started hormones and only competed in a few events her junior year, then she took a year off, then she came back and had a great senior year.

Part of that great senior year included setting a school record....that has already been broken.  

[ICRockets2]

4 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said:

No, just a week ago you said safety was not the issue. When I had your mind in twists about scenarios where it’s unsafe for trans people to be in woman’s spaces.

I didn't say safety wasn't the issue, I said it's unfair to kick them out of a space over someone else's bad behavior.

[ICRockets2]

8 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj3h6nO0tT9AhVbVTABHV7WAJAQFnoECBwQAw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nbcnews.com%2Fnbc-out%2Fout-news%2Ftrans-swimmer-lia-thomas-nominated-ncaa-woman-year-award-rcna38681&usg=AOvVaw3mpdT1bkuMOKwfoHGJolIT
 

What would it matter you will still be in denial 

That's not the Olympics.  Come on.  If trans women are so unstoppable in women's sports, why is the only trans person to have medaled in women's sports an AFAB non-binary person?

Shouldn't we have seen a biological male winning a medal in women's sports by now?

[LiterateStylish]

22 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said:

I didn't say safety wasn't the issue, I said it's unfair to kick them out of a space over someone else's bad behavior.

No you definitely inferred it wasn’t and then said it was only to an “extent”.

[ICRockets2]

2 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said:

No you definitely said safety wasn’t the issue.

I'd love to see the quote.  Last time you claimed I said something you were wrong ("he said he doesn't care about safety in prisons"...."oh wait it wasn't a conversation about prisons at all, but I will in no way acknowledge my error")

[LiterateStylish]

1 minute ago, ICRockets2 said:

I'd love to see the quote.  Last time you claimed I said something you were wrong ("he said he doesn't care about safety in prisons"...."oh wait it wasn't a conversation about prisons at all, but I will in no way acknowledge my error")

I actually did admit I confused prisons and bathrooms but the point was still the same. You harped on a mistyped word because you had no argument.

Anyway, back to the current debate, I asked you whether trans should stay in womens locker rooms (or prisons or whatever) if it was unsafe for them.

You said YES.

I said “so it’s not about safety then”.

 

[ICRockets2]

5 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said:

No you definitely inferred it wasn’t and then said it was only to an “extent”.

This was after you refused to provide proof that trans women pose a threat to cis women, wasn't it?

So like I said, the only reason I've made other arguments is because of your virulent anti-empiricism.

[LiterateStylish]

1 minute ago, ICRockets2 said:

This was after you refused to provide proof that trans women pose a threat to cis women, wasn't it?

So like I said, the only reason I've made other arguments is because of your virulent anti-empiricism.

No.

I asked you a hypothetical situation about whether trans should stay in womens locker rooms (or prisons or whatever) if it was unsafe for them.

You said YES.

I said “so it’s not about safety then”.

You then realized you were stuck and spiraled.

 

[ICRockets2]

Just now, LiterateStylish said:

I actually did admit I confused prisons and bathrooms but the point was still the same. You harped on a mistyped word because you had no argument.

Anyway, back to the current debate, I asked you whether trans should stay in womens locker rooms (or prisons or whatever) if it was unsafe for them.

You said YES.

I said “so it’s not about safety then”.

 

If white women kept starting fights with black women after bathrooms were de-segregated, would you say the solution is to re-segregate?

[LiterateStylish]

Just now, ICRockets2 said:

If white women kept starting fights with black women after bathrooms were de-segregated, would you say the solution is to re-segregate?

So it’s not about safety?

[LiterateStylish]

It’s pretty simple. 

If it’s about safety, then you do what you need to do (even segregation) to make it safe. Because we don’t have 100 million police officers to put into every restroom and locker room.

To which you then realized you were stuck and you started to go into ideology.

[ICRockets2]

2 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said:

So it’s not about safety?

Answer the fucking question.

[ICRockets2]

1 minute ago, LiterateStylish said:

It’s pretty simple. 

If it’s about safety, then you do what you need to do to make it safe.

Yes.  Arrest the people committing assault.  Charge them with hate crimes.  Teach tolerance.

 

4 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said:

(even segregation)

No.
 

[ICRockets2]

Like what you're saying is just "If you really wanted the Ku Klux Klan to stop lynching black people you'd give them what they want and bring back slavery."

[LiterateStylish]

7 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said:

Yes.  Arrest the people committing assault.  Charge them with hate crimes.  Teach tolerance.

So you’re saying that trans people can be in mens restrooms, since the answer to safety is arresting people, charging them with hate crimes, and teaching tolerance?

[LiterateStylish]

13 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said:

Answer the fucking question.

I asked you first.

Or you could just be honest and admit you’re stuck. It’s not your fault -  I was lulling you into it the entire time and you didn’t see it coming.

[ICRockets2]

3 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said:

So you’re saying that trans people can be in mens restrooms, since the answer to safety is arresting people, charging them with hate crimes, and teaching tolerance?

They're women.  There's no good reason to bar them from women's spaces.  

[ICRockets2]

3 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said:

I asked you first.

 

You literally didn't.

[HipKat]

4 hours ago, ICRockets2 said:

Then I guess it was stupid of you to complain about them getting it

I didn't. I complained about you pushing their need for it ahead of everyone else. 

[HipKat]

3 hours ago, ICRockets2 said:

I thought you didn't insult people

It's not an insult when it's true, dipshit! - also true

[HipKat]

3 hours ago, LiterateStylish said:

I realize i'm beating a completely beaten and demoralized horse at this point, but...

Here is a source from March of 2023. Literally this month. Source: National Human Genome Project. Probably the best source you could have on this topic.

 

"...two sex chromosomes that are involved in sex determination. Females have two X chromosomes in their cells, while males have one X and one Y."

https://www.genome.gov/genetics-glossary/Sex-Chromosome

 

Same thing I learned in the late 70's Health class