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This interview with Bernie shows one of the things that has always infuriated me with the liberal mindset


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So Bill Maher sat down with Bernie. And as most of you know, I respect him. He's a true throwback to a time when politicians were still worth a shit and worked for the American people. But hoooooooooooooooly shit does infuriate me at times. And in this video he says one of the things that infuriates me more than damn near anything.

Bill begins by asking Bernie about student loan forgiveness. Bill labels it a "giveway" and Bernie actually stops him right there and says to Bill that "giveaway" is Bill's term, not Bernie's term.

So at this point Bernie is making it clear he does not view this to be a giveaway. But once Bill finishes his question/point, Bernie goes on to define what he believes a giveaway is by using some recent examples. The very first example is tax cuts for the rich under Trump. And in doing this he exposes something that is very common with democratic politicians and people on the left - their belief that the money belongs to them. So if we allow an earner to keep a higher percentage of the money he or she earns, that is a giveaway. Not handing people money they did not earn, but allowing earners to keep more of their money.

Now lets not get sidetracked on the wealthy part. We can oppose tax cuts for wealthy without distorting the issue by claiming that tax cuts are a "giveaway". I'm living proof. I opposed the Trump tax cuts but absolutely do not agree with calling it a "giveaway". I will NEVER label a tax cut a giveaway. It is incredibly disrespectful to those that earn.

There is a great discussion to be had about what our tax rates should be. But there should be no discussion or debate as to whether or not allowing the people who actually earn the money to keep more it of equals a "giveaway". Its not. Its a tax cut. A giveaway is handing someone something they did not earn. There are plenty of examples where a giveaway may be appropriate or justified. But it is a giveaway.

Keeping a higher percentage of one's earnings is not, and never will be, a giveaway.

 

 

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Rich people OWN things. So those thing were just handed over to them?

“There he goes. One of God's own prototypes.

A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production.

Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

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2 minutes ago, HipKat said:

Rich people OWN things. So those thing were just handed over to them?

In many cases, yes.  

Do you know one of the most reliable predictors of whether someone will be wealthy when they grow up?

Their childhood zip code.  

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45 minutes ago, RichJ said:

"For a fee .. "

Lol

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How much have you donated to the MAGA movement?

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A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production.

Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

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1 hour ago, HipKat said:

How much have you donated to the MAGA movement?

What does Trump  have to do with this?

 I don't even own anything maga let alone donate to amag. It's all in your head that if I don't hate  him, I must be a maga guy. That's what people with tds tend to think.  No different from the delusional who think men have vaginas 

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1 hour ago, ICRockets2 said:

There's nothing bad about wanting to be compensated for your labor.  Under our current system, the compensation tends to be financial.  

"Nothing wrong with being a hypocrite"

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Only an idiot would be a socialist even facts are   its never worked  because those who push it will never practice what they preach and expect everyone to do so. Just like Bernie. 

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Bernie "No Refunds" Sanders is a total fraud as a commie.

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13 minutes ago, RichJ said:

Only an idiot would be a socialist even facts are   its never worked  because those who push it will never practice what they preach and expect everyone to do so. Just like Bernie. 

Socialism has never been tried.

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2 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said:

Socialism has never been tried.

It only works on insects. 

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2 hours ago, RichJ said:

What does Trump  have to do with this?

 I don't even own anything maga let alone donate to amag. It's all in your head that if I don't hate  him, I must be a maga guy. That's what people with tds tend to think.  No different from the delusional who think men have vaginas 

I'm just saying, maybe YOU have or haven't but pointing out Bernie donations when Trump has been grifting his sheep for 8 years now is disingenuous

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A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production.

Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

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20 hours ago, ICRockets2 said:

They don't earn shit.  They OWN things and steal the money that their WORKERS earn FOR the company in the form of profits.  

1) The problem with this mindset is that it ignores the fact that the owners of these companies oftentimes built them from the ground up, sacrificing much time, effort and fun to get there. For example, Google. Larry was working insane hours in his friends garage building Google. He sacrificed, he skimped, he saved, he begged for funding, etc. His workers should share equally in the profits with him despite not doing any of the ground work? 

2) 4 of the top 5 countries (by GDP) in the world are Capitalist. Or socio-capitalist. There is a reason for this. There is little incentive in the fairy tale land you want to live in.

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13 hours ago, HipKat said:

I'm just saying, maybe YOU have or haven't but pointing out Bernie donations when Trump has been grifting his sheep for 8 years now is disingenuous

You're deflecting away rom the hypocrite. 

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