SackMan518 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 NBC Reporter Goes To Crimea, Shocks Viewers By Telling The Truth Mainstream media correspondents for major US networks rarely, if ever, report from inside Crimea and certainly are nowhere near Russian-held territory in eastern Ukraine. However, this week NBC News chief international correspondent Keir Simmons went to Sevastopol, surrounded by a significant Russian military presence given it is home to the Russian Navy's Black Sea Fleet, and in a live segment admitted that it's not at all realistic Zelensky and Ukrainian forces can ever hope to take Crimea. This is especially as the "the people there... view themselves as Russian." (Ahem... @LiterateStylish?) Simmons noted that "This is the closest that any US news crew has got to the Russian Black Sea Fleet in many many years." He explained that "Vladimir Putin will be determined to defend that port - to not have it take it away from him - he may well do pretty much anything to try to achieve that." "It is a very, very dangerous standoff.. it's hard to see how you reach a negotiation over that. There's military absolutely everywhere, it is a military town," he continued, before saying... "When for example Victoria Nuland talks about that at the very least we [the US] want Crimea to be demilitarized, I find myself standing there and wondering, how on earth does that happen?" Ukrainian officials and pro-Kyiv media pundits are said to be outraged at the segment, given it repeatedly and bluntly referenced that Crimeans see themselves as Russians. Even a separate write-up filed days earlier from inside Crimea and posted to NBC's website included the following: This is not Russia, according to Kyiv, its Western allies and the United Nations. It was annexed by the Kremlin in 2014, with the U.N. calling on Russia to return to its "internationally recognized borders." And following Moscow’s broader invasion launched a year ago, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has vowed Ukraine will take Crimea back. But Praskovya Baranova, 73, speaks Russian, feels Russian and lives here. But it appears that the NBC correspondent, once he was on the ground in a place that few Western reporters ever venture, couldn't deny the plain truth he was seeing all around him. David Sacks comments of the refreshingly truthful segment, "Not long ago, these were denounced as Putin talking points." Sacks also says regarding NBC clearly conceding that Zelensky’s goal of retaking Crimea remains unrealistic and dangerous... This is a huge admission because it means that Biden’s policy of "only the Ukrainians can decide" the objectives of the war makes no sense. We’re effectively delegating our foreign policy to Zelensky, who is pursuing objectives that we don’t agree with. "At the same time that MSNBC is suddenly airing the truth about Crimea, its chief Ukraine pundit is lobbying for an all-out attack," Sacks also observes of the timing of the mid-week report. "It’s getting easier to see who are the real fanatics in this war," Sacks concluded. Quote Sack "The Buffalo Range's TRUSTED News Source!" “When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” ~ Dresden James Parler @NYexile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Has anyone denied Russian support in Crimea?? I think I've admitted to it 2 or 3 times in the last few days Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SackMan518 Posted March 3 Author Share Posted March 3 4 hours ago, HipKat said: Has anyone denied Russian support in Crimea?? I think I've admitted to it 2 or 3 times in the last few days @LiterateStylish, he seems to think everyone loves Zelensky and wants to fight Putin. Quote Sack "The Buffalo Range's TRUSTED News Source!" “When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” ~ Dresden James Parler @NYexile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiterateStylish Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 51 minutes ago, SackMan518 said: @LiterateStylish, he seems to think everyone loves Zelensky and wants to fight Putin. No there is clearly Russophiles. We have some on this very forum. But it is not "the majority" like you said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 1 hour ago, SackMan518 said: @LiterateStylish, he seems to think everyone loves Zelensky and wants to fight Putin. He would be provably wrong Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 30 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said: No there is clearly Russophiles. We have some on this very forum. But it is not "the majority" like you said. Except in Crimea Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 1 hour ago, HipKat said: Except in Crimea Which makes perfect sense because Crimea is under fascist occupation. For the past decade, anyone who wasn't pro-Russia in Crimea and had the ability to get out has fled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Sorry, but calling Ukrainian BS for what it is doesn't necessarily mean one is a "Russophile". This is just more, "If you ain't with us, you're agin us!" demagoguery. 1 1 Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiterateStylish Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 1 hour ago, HipKat said: Except in Crimea Except in the place where Russians are walking around with guns, making sure no one says or does anything negative about Russia? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 5 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said: Except in the place where Russians are walking around with guns, making sure no one says or does anything negative about Russia? Projection. Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SackMan518 Posted March 4 Author Share Posted March 4 1 hour ago, shiva2999 said: Projection. Sounds more like Zelensky who banned opposition parties and wants to crush orthodox churches. 1 Quote Sack "The Buffalo Range's TRUSTED News Source!" “When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” ~ Dresden James Parler @NYexile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LiterateStylish Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 4 hours ago, Philly'sFinest said: This is my favorite Russophile argument; “If you would just stop resisting it wouldn’t rape!” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiterateStylish Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 14 hours ago, SackMan518 said: Sounds more like Zelensky who banned opposition parties and wants to crush orthodox churches. I know a Russophile isn’t saying this. Putin was having 90 year old grandmas arrested for protesting his war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly'sFinest Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 24 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said: This is my favorite Russophile argument; “If you would just stop resisting it wouldn’t rape!” If that's what you came up with from those posts, then you're way more wacked then I thought 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 39 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said: I know a Russophile isn’t saying this. Putin was having 90 year old grandmas arrested for protesting his war. You DO realize you lose credibility when you repeat this nonsense after I ridiculed it the first time? Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiterateStylish Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 53 minutes ago, shiva2999 said: You DO realize you lose credibility when you repeat this nonsense after I ridiculed it the first time? Another video you conveniently couldn’t figure out how to operate. What will be the next excuse? It was a green screen with actors wearing Russian police uniforms and a fake grandma being put into handcuffs in front of Russian buildings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiterateStylish Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 hour ago, Philly'sFinest said: If that's what you came up with from those posts, then you're way more wacked then I thought Literally in the tweet. “Now the only question is how many more of his people Zelensky wants to kill.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SackMan518 Posted March 4 Author Share Posted March 4 1 hour ago, LiterateStylish said: I know a Russophile isn’t saying this. Putin was having 90 year old grandmas arrested for protesting his war. You know what else is crazy? 2 years ago a free, Democratic, Republic arrested a multitude of people for entering a capital building in protest of an election that they felt was fraudulent and many of them just wandered around (without weapons) doing goofy stuff like sitting at politician's desks while being photographed. Many of them still haven't been released and some received harsh sentences of the ones who have had speedier trials. Some of these people were little old ladies like this one (she has cancer by the way). 1 Quote Sack "The Buffalo Range's TRUSTED News Source!" “When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” ~ Dresden James Parler @NYexile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiterateStylish Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 3 minutes ago, SackMan518 said: You know what else is crazy? 2 years ago a free, Democratic, Republic arrested a multitude of people for entering a capital building in protest of an election that they felt was fraudulent and many of them just wandered around (without weapons) doing goofy stuff like sitting at politician's desks while being photographed. Many of them still haven't been released and some received harsh sentences of the ones who have had speedier trials. Some of these people were little old ladies like this one (she has cancer by the way). “Don’t look at Russia’s wrongdoing, look over hereeee. Look at the bad stuff over hereeee.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 32 minutes ago, SackMan518 said: You know what else is crazy? 2 years ago a free, Democratic, Republic arrested a multitude of people for entering a capital building in protest of an election that they felt was fraudulent and many of them just wandered around (without weapons) doing goofy stuff like sitting at politician's desks while being photographed. Many of them still haven't been released and some received harsh sentences of the ones who have had speedier trials. Some of these people were little old ladies like this one (she has cancer by the way). Damn maybe she shouldn't have been wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SackMan518 Posted March 4 Author Share Posted March 4 2 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: Damn maybe she shouldn't have been wrong Maybe you shouldn't be a rainbow striped jackboot Fascist thug. 1 Quote Sack "The Buffalo Range's TRUSTED News Source!" “When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” ~ Dresden James Parler @NYexile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 2 minutes ago, SackMan518 said: Maybe you shouldn't be a rainbow striped jackboot Fascist thug. Good idea I will continue not to be a fascist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SackMan518 Posted March 4 Author Share Posted March 4 2 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: Good idea I will continue not to be a fascist. Good job, I got you a pin. 2 Quote Sack "The Buffalo Range's TRUSTED News Source!" “When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” ~ Dresden James Parler @NYexile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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