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Brandon Beane has to make tough decisions on personnel in the next 2 months. 

I noticed that we inherited Nyheim's contract for 2023 when we traded for him, (unless the Bills release him before the middle of March).

I really like Nyheim's return ability, and his offensive potential, but if the Bills do keep him on the roster
his Cap Hit in 2023 is $4.79 million. 

On the flip side, if they release him, the Dead Cap Hit is Zero.

And they use him so infrequently.    

I hope they can keep him, but every million against the Cap will be scrutinized.  Could Beane sign a return specialist for less?
Will they "extend" him, kicking the Cap down the road?

FYI  by comparison, James Cook's Cap Hit next year is only $1.3 million.    That is the benefit of draft picks.  Cheap labor. 

 

 

 

OLine 2023 Draft Prospects                     Free Agent Targets

O'Cyrus Torrence, 6'5" 345lbs                OG Evan Brown, Lions
Darnell Wright, 6'6", 335lbs                      OG Will Hernandez, Cardinals
John M Schmitz, 6'4", 320lbs                   WR Parris Campbell, Colts
Cody Mauch, 6'5" 305lbs                          SAF Nasir Adderley, Chargers
Matthew Bergeron, 6'5" 323lbs

 

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2 hours ago, Crazy Legs said:

Brandon Beane has to make tough decisions on personnel in the next 2 months. 

I noticed that we inherited Nyheim's contract for 2023 when we traded for him, (unless the Bills release him before the middle of March).

I really like Nyheim's return ability, and his offensive potential, but if the Bills do keep him on the roster
his Cap Hit in 2023 is $4.79 million. 

On the flip side, if they release him, the Dead Cap Hit is Zero.

And they use him so infrequently.    

I hope they can keep him, but every million against the Cap will be scrutinized.  Could Beane sign a return specialist for less?
Will they "extend" him, kicking the Cap down the road?

FYI  by comparison, James Cook's Cap Hit next year is only $1.3 million.    That is the benefit of draft picks.  Cheap labor. 

 

 

 

They will release him, and he will go on to have a banner year somewhere else.

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I imagine what Beane does with Hines will be dependent on what he does with Singletary.  If he resigns Singletary it'll likely be for around $5.5M per season.  He'll likely run into a dilemma where he has to figure out which player to keep.  :niterider:

 

 

 

 

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He and McKenzie can go. McKenzie would count 2.6 against the cap. I didn't think either of them were any good, other than the two runbacks

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10 hours ago, Woody said:

I imagine what Beane does with Hines will be dependent on what he does with Singletary.  If he resigns Singletary it'll likely be for around $5.5M per season.  He'll likely run into a dilemma where he has to figure out which player to keep.  :niterider:

No Dilemma.   If Beane signs Devin for $5.5 million, he will have to let Hines go.  The Bills are OVER the Cap right now.   Signing Singletary would put them further over the Cap.   

I don't know what Beane's long term plan was with the RB position.   He drafted smallish James Cook last spring, knowing Singletary is in his final year.  He traded for Hines, knowing Hines contract for 2023, and that SIngletary is in his final year.

What was the 2023 year plan for the Running Back position Mr Beane?

OLine 2023 Draft Prospects                     Free Agent Targets

O'Cyrus Torrence, 6'5" 345lbs                OG Evan Brown, Lions
Darnell Wright, 6'6", 335lbs                      OG Will Hernandez, Cardinals
John M Schmitz, 6'4", 320lbs                   WR Parris Campbell, Colts
Cody Mauch, 6'5" 305lbs                          SAF Nasir Adderley, Chargers
Matthew Bergeron, 6'5" 323lbs

 

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9 hours ago, Buffalochief2 said:

Or a third option of restructuring his contract and adding years making less of a hit.  
come on guys, think outside the box of the local sports talk idiots.

Of course that is an option.

The reason the Bills are over the Cap now, is because they restructured contracts in 2021 and 2022 and pushed that CAP into 2023.  At some point you have to stop paying your Visa card with a cash withdrawal from your MasterCard.... 

OLine 2023 Draft Prospects                     Free Agent Targets

O'Cyrus Torrence, 6'5" 345lbs                OG Evan Brown, Lions
Darnell Wright, 6'6", 335lbs                      OG Will Hernandez, Cardinals
John M Schmitz, 6'4", 320lbs                   WR Parris Campbell, Colts
Cody Mauch, 6'5" 305lbs                          SAF Nasir Adderley, Chargers
Matthew Bergeron, 6'5" 323lbs

 

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2 hours ago, Crazy Legs said:

Of course that is an option.

The reason the Bills are over the Cap now, is because they restructured contracts in 2021 and 2022 and pushed that CAP into 2023.  At some point you have to stop paying your Visa card with a cash withdrawal from your MasterCard.... 

not true. the cap goes up every year.  The reason we are over is because of Covid when the cap went down.  This year the cap will go up a record amount.  Cap trouble will come into play if you extend a player past when the can still help the team.  In those cases you will be paying a guy who sucks and is most likely sitting the bench, while a guy you have in your system or is a FA you want to sign and can’t because of the cap hit from the now sucky player.  So there is a gamble involved, and you should only do it for players you think will still help the team for the time extended to.

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13 hours ago, HipKat said:

He and McKenzie can go. McKenzie would count 2.6 against the cap. I didn't think either of them were any good, other than the two runbacks

Being successful with both, depends on the offensive line. So is there any point to signing either? Might be time to focus on the OL.

 I think McKenzie can be used like San Fran uses Samuel.

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44 minutes ago, Baldat28 said:

He'll re-do his deal and count less against the cap, or they'll release him if he refused to do so

Yep pretty much agree.  He is not worth 5 million, not even close.  Extending him to a 3 year 6 million deal is about as far as i would go.  2 million a year for a RB who returns kicks and plays 10 to 15 plays in the game is about right.

 

Motor is as good as gone.  He is good but let's face it he is not a bell cow and could be replaced by a running back selected in the 3rd or 4th round.

I am a big fan of Drafting Robinson if he drops out of the top 20...I think the Bills could swap 1st rounds and through in a 3rd and 5th next year to move up to grab him.  

Robinson would be your main back with using Cook to spell him and give two back looks.  Robinson is also elite enough in the passing game to move out to WR, both in the slot and on the outside.  This kid could be a WR #2 as well as RB 1

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17 hours ago, Crazy Legs said:

Brandon Beane has to make tough decisions on personnel in the next 2 months. 

I noticed that we inherited Nyheim's contract for 2023 when we traded for him, (unless the Bills release him before the middle of March).

I really like Nyheim's return ability, and his offensive potential, but if the Bills do keep him on the roster
his Cap Hit in 2023 is $4.79 million. 

On the flip side, if they release him, the Dead Cap Hit is Zero.

And they use him so infrequently.    

I hope they can keep him, but every million against the Cap will be scrutinized.  Could Beane sign a return specialist for less?
Will they "extend" him, kicking the Cap down the road?

FYI  by comparison, James Cook's Cap Hit next year is only $1.3 million.    That is the benefit of draft picks.  Cheap labor. 

 

 

 

I'd like to be signed for 1.3 million, and be considered cheap labor.

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3 hours ago, Buffalochief2 said:

not true. the cap goes up every year.  The reason we are over is because of Covid when the cap went down.  This year the cap will go up a record amount.  Cap trouble will come into play if you extend a player past when the can still help the team.  In those cases you will be paying a guy who sucks and is most likely sitting the bench, while a guy you have in your system or is a FA you want to sign and can’t because of the cap hit from the now sucky player.  So there is a gamble involved, and you should only do it for players you think will still help the team for the time extended to.

The boat anchor this year is Von Miller.   His Cap Hit this year is $18,615,000 and $21.200,000 in 2024....and we hope he will be 100% when he comes back next Sept/Oct, but we don't know. 

Tremaine's new salary isn't factored into the Cap yet.   That will be a big number.  Puts us more over. 

Jordan Phillips is not in the Cap yet either.   I hope we sign him.  That will put us more over. 

Right now we are over (per SPOTRAC) by $15 million.   Probably less, but the point is we are over. 

Sure, Beane will extend some, pushing onto our MasterCard for 2024 & 2025.   But it will crimp some of his ability to pay someone like OG Evan Brown (Lions)

Evan Brown is an upgrade to what we have and would improve Josh's protection.     Alas, if Beane is forced to watch his pennies, we get Bobby Hart. LOL

 

 

OLine 2023 Draft Prospects                     Free Agent Targets

O'Cyrus Torrence, 6'5" 345lbs                OG Evan Brown, Lions
Darnell Wright, 6'6", 335lbs                      OG Will Hernandez, Cardinals
John M Schmitz, 6'4", 320lbs                   WR Parris Campbell, Colts
Cody Mauch, 6'5" 305lbs                          SAF Nasir Adderley, Chargers
Matthew Bergeron, 6'5" 323lbs

 

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1 hour ago, jamsim67 said:

I'd like to be signed for 1.3 million, and be considered cheap labor.

You don't make $1.3 million a year?   What's your 40 time?

OLine 2023 Draft Prospects                     Free Agent Targets

O'Cyrus Torrence, 6'5" 345lbs                OG Evan Brown, Lions
Darnell Wright, 6'6", 335lbs                      OG Will Hernandez, Cardinals
John M Schmitz, 6'4", 320lbs                   WR Parris Campbell, Colts
Cody Mauch, 6'5" 305lbs                          SAF Nasir Adderley, Chargers
Matthew Bergeron, 6'5" 323lbs

 

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40 minutes ago, jamsim67 said:

About 12 minutes. Why? :-)

The Bills need a new "kickoff tee chaser".   Gotta run out on the field, get the kicking tee, and run back to the sidelines.  12 minutes splits might eliminate you from the potential new hire list, and the $1.3 million salary......sorry.   :classic_tongue:

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OLine 2023 Draft Prospects                     Free Agent Targets

O'Cyrus Torrence, 6'5" 345lbs                OG Evan Brown, Lions
Darnell Wright, 6'6", 335lbs                      OG Will Hernandez, Cardinals
John M Schmitz, 6'4", 320lbs                   WR Parris Campbell, Colts
Cody Mauch, 6'5" 305lbs                          SAF Nasir Adderley, Chargers
Matthew Bergeron, 6'5" 323lbs

 

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7 hours ago, Crazy Legs said:

No Dilemma.   If Beane signs Devin for $5.5 million, he will have to let Hines go.  The Bills are OVER the Cap right now.   Signing Singletary would put them further over the Cap.   

I don't know what Beane's long term plan was with the RB position.   He drafted smallish James Cook last spring, knowing Singletary is in his final year.  He traded for Hines, knowing Hines contract for 2023, and that SIngletary is in his final year.

What was the 2023 year plan for the Running Back position Mr Beane?

You can't give Singletary 5.5 million. I think with a better offensive line, his numbers would be better, but I also think they will let him and Hines walk and draft another back.

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On 1/24/2023 at 8:17 PM, Crazy Legs said:

Brandon Beane has to make tough decisions on personnel in the next 2 months. 

I noticed that we inherited Nyheim's contract for 2023 when we traded for him, (unless the Bills release him before the middle of March).

I really like Nyheim's return ability, and his offensive potential, but if the Bills do keep him on the roster
his Cap Hit in 2023 is $4.79 million. 

On the flip side, if they release him, the Dead Cap Hit is Zero.

And they use him so infrequently.    

I hope they can keep him, but every million against the Cap will be scrutinized.  Could Beane sign a return specialist for less?
Will they "extend" him, kicking the Cap down the road?

FYI  by comparison, James Cook's Cap Hit next year is only $1.3 million.    That is the benefit of draft picks.  Cheap labor. 

 

 

 

He said he wants to be back. Can they cut & resign, and what if somebody else wants him? can he refuse, saying he wants to resign here?

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Is there an over/under on these concern troll threads, and if so, what is it at?   I want to bet the over.

1)restructures on just 2 contracts can free mid-8 digits.

2)cap limit to see possibly largest increase ever, for multiple factors.

3)GM Beane didn't just start thinking about this after the game.

4)Don't concern trolls EVER tire of this?  I'm all for Lt getting his traffic, but being the team sucks so badly according to the shoutbox concern trolls, these threads should be seen by them as reason ingest their substance of choice and party like it's 1989 (assuming they actually believe half the nonsense they spout).

 

You guys reminded me, I got distracted by your nonsense long enough that I have not seen GM Beane's presser yet.  I wonder if anyone posted it here?

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18 hours ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

its simple. let Singletary walk. Its not a run focused offense. draft a power back to compliment Hines and Cook, case closed for this year. Next year draft another RB in the mid rounds that has a more all-around skill set. 

Yup.

Drafting a RB in the first 3 rounds like we did last year is a waste of resources.

Build an even average NFL OL and any decent RB can run behind it and more importantly, protect our 1/2 billion dollar QB investment.

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