Lest you think I'm making up how concerned the LGBTQ community is right now...

[RichJ]

16 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

They were the lesser of two evils, so yes.

lol. MKay. The peeople who have proven to abandon Americans to die at the hands of terrorists and lesser evils. LOL.

[ICRockets2]

23 minutes ago, HipKat said:

It’s a trend to make alternative lifestyles more mainstream.

 

Yes.  Because there's nothing wrong with being queer or trans and it's good that queer and trans kids grow up knowing this.  

 

 

23 minutes ago, HipKat said:

When LGBTQ becomes more trendy, more children adopt it

Yes, just like when being left-handed becomes accepted more kids write with their left hands.  Then we reach a plateau of natural lefthandedness.  Logic dictates that we will reach a similar plateau with LGBT-identifying youth.  You can't turn kids gay or trans any more than you can turn them straight or cis, so the kids who are benefitting from this "trend" are either authentically queer or sincerely questioning.  The queer ones deserve to feel welcomed by society, and the questioning ones deserve space to find answers.  

If you can point me to provable instances of kids not giving questioning peers who turn out to be straight after all the space to find that answer, I will vehemently condemn it.  That is categorically bad behavior.  But if you don't have DATA to prove it's a widespread phenomenon then I cannot in good faith consider it a problem on the same scale as the persecution and discrimination LGBT youth face every day.   That doesn't mean it shouldn't be addressed, it just means we can't say "ah, see, that's actually the ONLY problem we need to address, so fuck LGBT youth and their own problems".

 

23 minutes ago, HipKat said:

Just like it’s younger generations, who splintered from old school segregation and made interracial, relationships, much more common, it’s younger generations, who follow this social trend of acceptance for people who live alternative lifestyles. The problem with children is that they take things to the extreme. Young idealism. All in or all out.

I'd need to hear more about what you consider the "problem" here.  Is it kids calling adults who don't approve of mixed-race couples racists, and adults who don't approve of LGBT people bigots?  Because that's good IMO.  They should do that.

They can do so overzealously, and that should be tempered, but refusing to tolerate intolerance is- generally speaking- a good thing.  

If that's not what you mean by "the problem" with young idealism, please clarify.

[f8ta1ity54]

27 minutes ago, HipKat said:

Show me a study where 1 to 2% of straight kids are causing 98% of trans kids to kill themselves. Can’t wait!

No, its the 98-99% of cis kids harassing LGBTQ kids. Which completely conflicts with what you are saying you are hearing from your daughters and some people on the internet. 

Data indicate that 82% of transgender individuals have considered killing themselves and 40% have attempted suicide, with suicidality highest among transgender youth.

Suicidality Among Transgender Youth: Elucidating the Role of Interpersonal Risk Factors - PubMed (nih.gov)

27 minutes ago, HipKat said:

Everything you post is cherry picked. You go look for studies that support your viewpoints. That’s what you do, there’s no denying it. It’s obvious.

I've told you to bring counter evidence multiple times. All you had was a personal responsibility article from '03. But please, be SPECIFIC as to which studies I have provided that are cherry picked. Cherry picked and being biased are TWO different things. So I challenge you to show an example of a bias within any of the studies I have provided. 

27 minutes ago, HipKat said:

It’s kind of like trade schools. You can go to school to be a truck driver, but they don’t teach you how to be a truck driver, they teach you how to pass the road test. At the end of the day, would you make until you’ve actually been a truck driver for a while, you don’t really know what being a truck driver is.

You got me, I'm not going to be driving a big rig anytime soon. But lets stay on topic.

27 minutes ago, HipKat said:

Same thing. You can go find some studies that quotes percentages based on a slice of people that they interview or poll.

So if you have a problem with the methodology of a study I provide you should state that. So which ones do you take issue with?

27 minutes ago, HipKat said:

But until you’ve gone through the process of raising children yourself and dealt with their problems and responded to their concerns and heard about their day-to-day experiences, then you don’t really know what children go through. Period.

LOL I have been working with kids for 23 years. How many calls to CPS have you made? How many children have you had to help console that were not your own? How many kids that are not your own have trusted you to tell them all the shitty things that go on at home-seeking help? How many times have you had to call the police because abusive parents have tried to defy court orders and show up to pick up their kids? How many times have you had to sit with a kid for because their dead-beat parents dont show up for hours?

But yea, tell me how I dont know how to talk to, understand, or how to protect children. 

27 minutes ago, HipKat said:

Not to mention, it’s not like some new concept that children use trends and social media to bully each other and what you and your little buddy are arguing for here is a trend. It’s a trend to make alternative lifestyles more mainstream.

What's happening is zoomers are less bigoted than their parents. They are more accepting of differences, and thus more kids are less afraid to come out of the closet. You interpret this as the gay disease or gay agenda corrupting your kids. 

27 minutes ago, HipKat said:

Just like it’s younger generations, who splintered from old school segregation and made interracial, relationships, much more common, it’s younger generations, who follow this social trend of acceptance for people who live alternative lifestyles. The problem with children is that they take things to the extreme. Young idealism. All in or all out.

Yet you have no evidence other than yours and a "litany" of randos on the internet.

27 minutes ago, HipKat said:

When LGBTQ becomes more trendy,

Its not a trend. Its who people are. 

27 minutes ago, HipKat said:

more children adopt it and use it as a way to bully other kids who don’t follow in with that social trend. That’s the thing about young people and following trends. It helps them to feel accepted.

Can you show me one example of a minority of children using some social trend that alienated the overwhelming majority of their peers? I'm talking about no more than 5% of kids v 95% kids. 

27 minutes ago, HipKat said:

In the last two years, my youngest daughter has gone to a school in a very small community, in a very rural town to a middle school in my town that was twice the size to a high school that has about 3300 kids in it and now an alternative school which has about 50 kids in it and her experience with this subject has remained constant through all four completely different scenarios and demographics.

Call me crazy but that’s a study

You live in a state that has or is trying to pass anti-LGBTQ legislation. Even if I were to grant your argument as valid (which I dont) how is this anti-cis behavior manifesting itself in society in a way that has been detrimental to cis people?

[f8ta1ity54]

13 minutes ago, RichJ said:

lol. MKay. The peeople who have proven to abandon Americans to die at the hands of terrorists and lesser evils. LOL.

verses the party that got us into a two decade long war after a propaganda campaign all because they didn't take threats of terrorists flying planes into buildings seriously?

But George did tell us that God told him to go to war, so I guess that absolves him of all criticism. 

[RichJ]

6 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

verses the party that got us into a two decade long war after a propaganda campaign all because they didn't take threats of terrorists flying planes into buildings seriously?

But George did tell us that God told him to go to war, so I guess that absolves him of all criticism. 

how did GW get involve in this? I didnt even vote for him. LOL. 

 Your party is the one that created the KKK and still is keeping blacks in the inner city plantation with crappy living standards and crappy education so they stay deependent on government and dont learn about the truth about democrats. 

 

Demrats are the true oppressors and want to keep black poor. 

[f8ta1ity54]

Just now, RichJ said:

how did GW get involve in this? I didnt even vote for him. LOL. 

You brought up the dems and terrorism you dumb fuck. Did you forget about how GW ignored warnings of terrorism and then got us into a multi trillion dollar war?

Just now, RichJ said:

 Your party is the one that created the KKK

but the people who are in the KKK now are the GOP base. This is where you deny that the voter base switched parties when the GOP started to pander to southern racist democrats, because if you ignore historical events I guess it makes your arguments better.

Just now, RichJ said:

and still is keeping blacks in the inner city plantation with crappy living standards and crappy education so they stay deependent on government and dont learn about the truth about democrats. 

The GOP is literally trying to gerrymander the fuck out of these areas so they can weaken the black vote so they dont have to address their living standards or crappy education. The GOP is like 90% white. Remember that. When the fascists take over, will you pass for white enough to survive?

[RichJ]

51 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

You brought up the dems and terrorism you dumb fuck. Did you forget about how GW ignored warnings of terrorism and then got us into a multi trillion dollar war?

 

Why so angry princess? actually, Bill Clinton was warned of the Bin Laden plan from captured terrorists in Asia. He did nothing. A war that Democrats signed on? You like to use bipartisnship so there you go hypocrite.

51 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

 

but the people who are in the KKK now are the GOP base. This is where you deny that the voter base switched parties when the GOP started to pander to southern racist democrats, because if you ignore historical events I guess it makes your arguments better.

The GOP is literally trying to gerrymander the fuck out of these areas so they can weaken the black vote so they dont have to address their living standards or crappy education. The GOP is like 90% white. Remember that. When the fascists take over, will you pass for white enough to survive?

lol. They vote Trump because the dems throw white people under the bus all the time ,stupid.

Here's a FACT ..More minorities are moving right.Stupid. So what now?

Here' lets ask CNN so you dont accuse me of using bised conservative site. 

 

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/27/politics/democrats-biden-black-voters-midterms/index.html

 

 

 

Minority  police cheifs, minority  governors, minority governors and yet its the GOPs' fault? LOL CA and NY are dumps, broke and increased crime  with Minority  police cheifs, minority  governors, minority governors and yet its the GOPs' fault? 

Pelosi, Omar and AOC etc dump districts are the GOPS fault. LOLOLOLOLOL. 

 

 

 

[HipKat]

2 hours ago, RichJ said:

Democrat controlled government did nothing. Blame them. 

The Democrat controlled government did not put him into office. You did.

[f8ta1ity54]

10 minutes ago, RichJ said:

Why so angry princess? actually, Bill Clinton was warned of the Bin Laden plan from captured terrorists in Asia. He did nothing.

LOL ok, but who was on watch when the planes flew into the twin towers?

10 minutes ago, RichJ said:

A war that Democrats signed on? You like to use bipartisnship so there you go hypocrite.

Sure did, one of the reasons i'm not a democrat, but it also hasnt stopped you from being a republican. 

10 minutes ago, RichJ said:

lol. They vote Trump because the dems throw white people under the bus all the time ,stupid.

oh yea? How so? are you telling me that on average minorities have it better in the US than white people?

10 minutes ago, RichJ said:

Here's a FACT ..More minorities are moving right.Stupid. So what now?

thats what can happen to communities that are under educated and bombarded with propaganda. But the overwhelming majority still votes democrat. 

10 minutes ago, RichJ said:

Here' lets ask CNN so you dont accuse me of using bised conservative site. 

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/27/politics/democrats-biden-black-voters-midterms/index.html

Yea, because they are further to the left than democrats. 

10 minutes ago, RichJ said:

Minority  police cheifs, minority  governors, minority governors and yet its the GOPs' fault? LOL CA and NY are dumps, broke and increased crime  with Minority  police cheifs, minority  governors, minority governors and yet its the GOPs' fault? 

Yup, the systemic racism is everywhere, I know. You're almost there. 

10 minutes ago, RichJ said:

Pelosi, Omar and AOC etc dump districts are the GOPS fault. LOLOLOLOLOL. 

It wouldnt be any better under a republican, thats for sue. 

[RichJ]

7 minutes ago, HipKat said:

The Democrat controlled government did not put him into office. You did.

Obama and Killary put him in office. No one liked what the Obama admin  did so people voted for Trump instead. I didnt like Trump but I voted =for him because I was anti-Killary. I'm glad I did. Trump was better than I could ever imagine and unlike Obama and co. Trump was pro American. Even did more for blacks than Obama did.FACT!

Obama still holds the record of deporter in chief. 

[HipKat]

1 hour ago, ICRockets2 said:

No.  What I'm doing is treating the "one-off" like a human fucking being with human fucking rights that deserve to be protected.

Sure you are. Everything you is Trans, Trans, Trans, like those are the only people who are maligned in this country. Like I said, before, a lot of people who are in the military, commit suicide and get locked up in prison when they’re innocent, or can’t find jobs and end up homeless and addicted to drugs living on the street. Show me all the times you posted your outrage.

Let’s see all that sympathy you have for children who are abused and neglected. Oh, that’s right, when I finally got custody of my daughter, who was being abused and neglected, you labeled me a bad father. You don’t have the fucking balls to be a father. 

Let’s see all your concern for women who commit suicide because they’re in abusive relationships with men who brutalized them.

I can guarantee that those people have never gotten a moment of your fucking concern because you’re so wrapped up in your own agenda that you don’t really notice people like that.

 

[HipKat]

2 minutes ago, RichJ said:

Obama and Killary put him in office. No one liked what the Obama admin  did so people voted for Trump instead. 

That’s fair. I’m one of those people. The difference is I can point out everything negative about Trump and the Republicans and you can’t. You won’t.

But, let’s not get off track because I don’t want to argue with you, especially in this thread where you and I are solidly on the same side. We can have that argument in a different thread.

[HipKat]

2 hours ago, ICRockets2 said:

Yes.  Data is more reliable than anecdote.  100%.  Unquestionably.

You’re confusing anecdote with experience.

[HipKat]

2 hours ago, ICRockets2 said:

You wrote both of these in the same post.

That’s because I was quoting both things that you said in the same post. Try to keep up.

[ICRockets2]

6 minutes ago, HipKat said:

Sure you are. Everything you is Trans, Trans, Trans, like those are the only people who are maligned in this country. Like I said, before, a lot of people who are in the military, commit suicide and get locked up in prison when they’re innocent, or can’t find jobs and end up homeless and addicted to drugs living on the street. Show me all the times you posted your outrage.

Let’s see all that sympathy you have for children who are abused and neglected. Oh, that’s right, when I finally got custody of my daughter, who was being abused and neglected, you labeled me a bad father. You don’t have the fucking balls to be a father. 

Let’s see all your concern for women who commit suicide because they’re in abusive relationships with men who brutalized them.

I can guarantee that those people have never gotten a moment of your fucking concern because you’re so wrapped up in your own agenda that you don’t really notice people like that.

 

I notice all of them, but there's only so much time in a day.  If someone were to post that women in abusive relationships ought to stay in abusive relationships, I'd tell them to eat my shit and hair.  If someone were to post that homeless vets deserve to starve, I'd tell them to eat my hair and shit.  If someone were to post that children who are abused are damaged goods, I'd shit them to eat my hair and tell.  

But that's not happening.  So it isn't worth the effort to express my positions on these matters with what little time we have.  

[ICRockets2]

7 minutes ago, HipKat said:

You’re confusing anecdote with experience.

That's what an anecdote is.  A single experience.  It may be a protracted experience, like you're describing over the course of your daughter's schooling, but it is still a single experience.  We can address it, and we should, but we would be following bad methodology if we crafted policy off of your personal experiences to the detriment of data consideration.

[RichJ]

15 minutes ago, HipKat said:

That’s fair. I’m one of those people. The difference is I can point out everything negative about Trump and the Republicans and you can’t. You won’t.

But, let’s not get off track because I don’t want to argue with you, especially in this thread where you and I are solidly on the same side. We can have that argument in a different thread.

Selective reading. I have blasted Trump and called for him to be jailed if ever found guilty of wrong doings.  I've said several times I want him gone so Desantis can win. The issue is, your have TDS and anyone who doesnt speak ill of Trump like you do is a Trumper to you . Its almost equal to those who dont celebrate pride is a homophobe. 

[HipKat]

3 hours ago, ICRockets2 said:

Things ARE bad here.  You're a fucking fascist who wants gay and trans kids to kill themselves.  Fuck off, you worthless piece of shit.  Do Alice a favor and let her live fatherlessly.

Hey dumb fuck, nobody wants gay or trans kids to kill themselves. You’re a fucking idiot every time you say that you oversensitive little pussy. If it’s bad here, it’s because your people draw undue attention to themselves. They make a fucking spectacle of themselves and those are the ones who end up doing harm to themselves because the way they act gets met with a negative reaction. And since most of them are suffering from some type of mental instability, anyway, they can’t handle it and end up hurting themselves.

I had a customer in Columbus, it was two trans women and I’m gonna say women for your benefit. One was Egyptian and the other one was from Syria. The Syrian did not speak English but the Egyptian did and we were having a long conversation about how difficult it must be to be trans in the Middle East. Now the Egyptian girl has been in America for years and that’s why her English is good. So it was easy to have a conversation with her.

The Syrian girl had to get smuggled out of Syria to South Korea and from there she had to find a way to get to South America and from South America she made her way to the United States. If she would’ve been discovered in Syria, it would’ve been a fucking massacre. The entire journey, until she got to America, she had to hide her outward female appearance They would’ve butchered her so don’t tell me how bad it is here because you’re an ignorant fool if that’s what you think. 

And isn’t it kind of funny how many times I’ve posted about experiences I’ve had with the LGBTQ community. Marching and pride parades back home in the early 2000s. Hanging out at club Marcella. Interviewing the girls for the TV show I hosted a club, Marcella on the drag nights. Hanging out at gay bars in Allentown with my girlfriend where there were plenty of people that were trans. Now telling you this story which shows the empathy I had for that woman from Syria. 

And the best part is, you’re too damn stupid understand what the fuck I just said to you

[HipKat]

3 hours ago, ICRockets2 said:

Yes.  Because there's nothing wrong with being queer or trans and it's good that queer and trans kids grow up knowing this.  

you’re right, there is nothing wrong with being queer or trans and anybody who’s queer or trans should know this but stop pushing it out fucking people that are not stop making people that are not queer or trans. Feel like they’re oppressors because they’re not queer or trans.

3 hours ago, ICRockets2 said:

Yes, just like when being left-handed becomes accepted more kids write with their left hands.  Then we reach a plateau of natural lefthandedness.  Logic dictates that we will reach a similar plateau with LGBT-identifying youth.  You can't turn kids gay or trans any more than you can turn them straight or cis, so the kids who are benefitting from this "trend" are either authentically queer or sincerely questioning.  The queer ones deserve to feel welcomed by society, and the questioning ones deserve space to find answers.  

Sure, no kid thought that he or she was queer or trans as a kid ever grew up and realized they weren’t…..

3 hours ago, ICRockets2 said:

if you can point me to provable instances of kids not giving questioning peers who turn out to be straight after all the space to find that answer, I will vehemently condemn it.  That is categorically bad behavior.  But if you don't have DATA to prove it's a widespread phenomenon then I cannot in good faith consider it a problem on the same scale as the persecution and discrimination LGBT youth face every day.   That doesn't mean it shouldn't be addressed, it just means we can't say "ah, see, that's actually the ONLY problem we need to address, so fuck LGBT youth and their own problems".

dude, personal experiences are data. Fuck man, I thought you were the smart guy

3 hours ago, ICRockets2 said:

I'd need to hear more about what you consider the "problem" here.  Is it kids calling adults who don't approve of mixed-race couples racists, and adults who don't approve of LGBT people bigots?  Because that's good IMO.  They should do that.

no, it’s younger people who engage in interracial relationships more often than their parents dead by more often I mean, probably 1000 fold more often than their parents generation did.

it’s like tattoos. When I first started getting tattoos, the only people got tattoos were bikers and bad asses. I was always kind of small to be a fat ass, but it hung around the rare breed and buffalo so I identified with bikers more but regardless, nowadays, everybody has tattoos. It used to be that if you weren’t a biker or a bad ass, you would never get a tattoo, and now there are corporate executive types, white-collar, workers who have full sleeves and back pieces, and piercings.

I got a friend of mine who said to me one time I can’t wait till are you old people are tired so that everybody just has tattoos. Young idealism. Youthful. Acceptance. But what the kid was basically telling me was that anybody who doesn’t have tattoos isn’t gonna fit in with his generation, and would be considered outcasts.

Same thing with LGBTQ kids, who feel like kids like my daughter who are 100% straight aren’t going to fit in with their cliquiness

3 hours ago, ICRockets2 said:

They can do so overzealously, and that should be tempered, but refusing to tolerate intolerance is- generally speaking- a good thing.  

unless it’s the people that you are trying to be protective of that out of the intolerant ones

3 hours ago, ICRockets2 said:

 

[ICRockets2]

On 1/13/2023 at 11:09 PM, HipKat said:

He left off number 3 - every trans person cuts their fucking wrists open and then we don't have this conversation anymore.

Too bad it's been censored out of existence but in the early days of SNL, Garret Morris or Eddie Murphy did a skit about an aerosol spray called Homo No'Mo'.

We could use a lot of that right now. A few spritzes and ICR will be a Homo, no' fucking mo'!

If you want me to believe you have the capacity for allyship, then you need to cut this shit out.  Will you?

[ICRockets2]

2 minutes ago, HipKat said:

 stop making people that are not queer or trans. Feel like they’re oppressors because they’re not queer or trans.

 

 

I believe I've been quite clear that simply BEING cis or straight does not make one an oppressor.  If you are experiencing some sort of guilt, it didn't come from my rhetoric and I have no interest in coddling it.  Get over yourself and just be a decent fucking person, and we'll have no issues.

[HipKat]

3 hours ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

No, its the 98-99% of cis kids harassing LGBTQ kids. Which completely conflicts with what you are saying you are hearing from your daughters and some people on the internet. 

Data indicate that 82% of transgender individuals have considered killing themselves and 40% have attempted suicide, with suicidality highest among transgender youth.

Suicidality Among Transgender Youth: Elucidating the Role of Interpersonal Risk Factors - PubMed (nih.gov)

I've told you to bring counter evidence multiple times. All you had was a personal responsibility article from '03. But please, be SPECIFIC as to which studies I have provided that are cherry picked. Cherry picked and being biased are TWO different things. So I challenge you to show an example of a bias within any of the studies I have provided. 

You got me, I'm not going to be driving a big rig anytime soon. But lets stay on topic.

So if you have a problem with the methodology of a study I provide you should state that. So which ones do you take issue with?

LOL I have been working with kids for 23 years. How many calls to CPS have you made? How many children have you had to help console that were not your own? How many kids that are not your own have trusted you to tell them all the shitty things that go on at home-seeking help? How many times have you had to call the police because abusive parents have tried to defy court orders and show up to pick up their kids? How many times have you had to sit with a kid for because their dead-beat parents dont show up for hours?

But yea, tell me how I dont know how to talk to, understand, or how to protect children. 

What's happening is zoomers are less bigoted than their parents. They are more accepting of differences, and thus more kids are less afraid to come out of the closet. You interpret this as the gay disease or gay agenda corrupting your kids. 

Yet you have no evidence other than yours and a "litany" of randos on the internet.

Its not a trend. Its who people are. 

Can you show me one example of a minority of children using some social trend that alienated the overwhelming majority of their peers? I'm talking about no more than 5% of kids v 95% kids. 

You live in a state that has or is trying to pass anti-LGBTQ legislation. Even if I were to grant your argument as valid (which I dont) how is this anti-cis behavior manifesting itself in society in a way that has been detrimental to cis people?

First of all, about that article, the conversation was about people in the hood, who don’t exhibit personal responsibility. You told me show you want to study that supports that and I did so don’t fucking dismiss it because it doesn’t agree with your point of you. That article intricately details how personal responsibility is the major factor of life in the inner-city communities.

Second of all, working with abused, children is working with only abused children, not your own children who are not abused. Who live normal lives. Who are not on the cusp of being removed from their homes. It’s not the same.

Studies or no studies, don’t expect me to validate your point of you when you’re going to continue to marginalized peoples personal experiences.

Illinois is not trying to pass anti-LGBTQ laws. I don’t even know where the fuck you came up with that because it’s actually just the opposite end in Illinois schools are required to change the historical contributions of people from that community.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-lgbtq-history-illinois-schools-law-20190826-m2k4qtpiifhkzp5a76dwtwlbwy-story.html

 

[ICRockets2]

4 minutes ago, HipKat said:

 

Sure, no kid thought that he or she was queer or trans as a kid ever grew up and realized they weren’t…..

 

 

Of course they have.  And I just told you- AGAIN- that they should have the space to figure that out without being pressured or bullied.  I have been very, very, very consistent on this.

 

 

5 minutes ago, HipKat said:

dude, personal experiences are data.

No.  Personal experiences are anecdotes.  Data collection requires not only the accumulation of anecdotes but also the sociological imagination to isolate variables that could get in the way of drawing reliable conclusions from the data.  

 

8 minutes ago, HipKat said:

But what the kid was basically telling me was that anybody who doesn’t have tattoos isn’t gonna fit in with his generation, and would be considered outcasts.

I would argue that the outcasts aren't going to be people without tattoos.  It will be the people who look down on people with tattoos.  Who were raised to see tattoos as a sign of degeneracy.  I have tons of friends with tattoos, and they have never once made me feel like an outcast for not having any.  

 

[RichJ]

2 hours ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

LOL ok, but who was on watch when the planes flew into the twin towers?

this would have happened even if Clinton was in power. Both Dems and pubs brushed Bin Laden off.

2 hours ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

 

Sure did, one of the reasons i'm not a democrat, but it also hasnt stopped you from being a republican. 

 

I'm a republican? Thats new to me. 

2 hours ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

 

oh yea? How so? are you telling me that on average minorities have it better in the US than white people?

 

well Asians earn more and make more than whites. You idiots keep telling us America is racist and have systemic racism due to whites. If so you're ahead of the line.

2 hours ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

 

thats what can happen to communities that are under educated and bombarded with propaganda. But the overwhelming majority still votes democrat. 

 

thats what happens when they vote democrat. They get screwed.  They have been for decades and are still screwed. 

 

2 hours ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

 

Yup, the systemic racism is everywhere, I know. You're almost there. 

It wouldnt be any better under a republican, thats for sue. 

says the guy who calls blacks Uncle Tom . You're the proven PIG here.

Actually Florida is doing so much better than CA and NY . FACT!!!!! 

People are leaving both states in the hundredths of thousands every year. NY and CA are broke and FL has surplus. FACT!

[HipKat]

10 hours ago, ICRockets2 said:

Of course they have.  And I just told you- AGAIN- that they should have the space to figure that out without being pressured or bullied.  I have been very, very, very consistent on this.

Yet you're totally in favor of pressuring youg children to make gender identity decisions before they're mature or developed enough to truly understand their own gender issues

10 hours ago, ICRockets2 said:

No.  Personal experiences are anecdotes.  Data collection requires not only the accumulation of anecdotes but also the sociological imagination to isolate variables that could get in the way of drawing reliable conclusions from the data.  

Yeah, imagination, errr, made up. My oldest kid is here tonight, btw, and I told her about how you refuse to accept that she was bullied by the kids in her school for being straight. She said you're a moron, basically

10 hours ago, ICRockets2 said:

I would argue that the outcasts aren't going to be people without tattoos.  It will be the people who look down on people with tattoos.  Who were raised to see tattoos as a sign of degeneracy.  I have tons of friends with tattoos, and they have never once made me feel like an outcast for not having any.  

"The difference between people with tattoos and people without tattoos is that people with tattoos don;t give a fuck if you don't have tattoos."

Sign at Paul Massaro's Tattoo shop where I got my first Tattoo in the states in 1990.