micknaboz Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, shiva2999 said: What I've proven is you're a partisan who isn't interested in any sort of dispassionate analysis. Obviously this is an emotional issue for you. Is it possible your family hails from the region? He's got you pegged Sparky, you can't even hide it anymore. What's hilarious is you calling anyone a partisan. That's a funny as all the right wing racists and homophobes here accusing others of being racists. You guys crack me up. Quote [/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 23 minutes ago, micknaboz said: He's got you pegged Sparky, you can't even hide it anymore. What's hilarious is you calling anyone a partisan. That's a funny as all the right wing racists and homophobes here accusing others of being racists. You guys crack me up. Another idiotic Zelensky fanboy... 1 Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 hour ago, shiva2999 said: Another idiotic Zelensky fanboy... What does this have to do with Ukraine? This is about HUMAN RIGHTS!! Are you dead from the neck up? Iran wants to execute people because of their sexual preference, well I must be pro Ukraine lmao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 14 hours ago, ICRockets2 said: Ok I'm really excited for the next time we have a back and forth around here. This is passionate humanitarian advocacy that I super, super respect and knowing that at the core of who you are you care about a noble cause is going to make discussing areas we seemingly disagree about really fulfilling. I believe that the government for the most part should stay out of peoples business. Some people here apparently feel like we should have more government. Charging people with Consensual crime has no place anywhere unless it is harming someone else. I’m not gay so I probably won’t watch the movie with 2 dudes kissing, but that’s a choice I get to make not fuckin Putin. Friggen russki. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Angry Byrds said: What does this have to do with Ukraine? This is about HUMAN RIGHTS!! Are you dead from the neck up? Iran wants to execute people because of their sexual preference, well I must be pro Ukraine lmao. What does it have to do with Ukraine? If you haven't noticed, Iran is one of Russia's staunchest allies, that's what. And what you're doing is just the same old virtue signalling in favor of and an excuse for American imperialism. 1 Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 34 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said: I believe that the government for the most part should stay out of peoples business. Some people here apparently feel like we should have more government. Charging people with Consensual crime has no place anywhere unless it is harming someone else. I’m not gay so I probably won’t watch the movie with 2 dudes kissing, but that’s a choice I get to make not fuckin Putin. Friggen russki. What consensual crime is Putin charging people with? 1 Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Angry Byrds said: I believe that the government for the most part should stay out of peoples business. Some people here apparently feel like we should have more government. Charging people with Consensual crime has no place anywhere unless it is harming someone else. I’m not gay so I probably won’t watch the movie with 2 dudes kissing, but that’s a choice I get to make not fuckin Putin. Friggen russki. Yeah personally I don't engage with the "more government" vs "less government" thing because it's stupid. I don't want "more" or "less" for the sake of having "more" or "less". I want the government to be appropriately-sized for the things I want the government to do. I have no pre-formed opinions about what that size ought to be, you know? For example, the pissfit conservatives had this summer over "OMG MORE IRS AGENTS HOW HORRRRRRRRRRRRRRIBLE!" was dumber than dogshit but it's what happens when you train dumbfucks to care about "more government" vs "less government" instead of caring about what a government requires to function properly. The IRS has said for ages that they don't have the resources to go after the biggest tax-evaders because the biggest tax-evaders can afford high-powered lawyers. To combat that, they needed more manpower. The additional 87,000 agents are to give them that manpower. Since I oppose billionaires evading taxes, I support more IRS agents for that job. Simple as. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 They need 87,000 more agents to go after the biggest tax evaders? Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 11 minutes ago, shiva2999 said: They need 87,000 more agents to go after the biggest tax evaders? Yeah. You need teams of agents to pore over the taxes of wealthy cheats. Those returns are incredibly complicated, you can't just throw 2 or 3 agents at it and expect to get anywhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknaboz Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Shiva and you other RWNJ.s should learn about google before talking shit. Gutting the IRS How the IRS Was Gutted An eight-year campaign to slash the agency’s budget has left it understaffed, hamstrung and operating with archaic equipment. The result: billions less to fund the government. That’s good news for corporations and the wealthy. https://www.propublica.org/article/how-the-irs-was-gutted Quote [/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, micknaboz said: Shiva and you other RWNJ.s should learn about google before talking shit. Gutting the IRS How the IRS Was Gutted An eight-year campaign to slash the agency’s budget has left it understaffed, hamstrung and operating with archaic equipment. The result: billions less to fund the government. That’s good news for corporations and the wealthy. https://www.propublica.org/article/how-the-irs-was-gutted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 26 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: Yeah. You need teams of agents to pore over the taxes of wealthy cheats. Those returns are incredibly complicated, you can't just throw 2 or 3 agents at it and expect to get anywhere. Say they pay these guys salary and benefits that add up to $100,000 per year. That's 87,000 x 100,000 = $8,700,000,000. Almost 9 billion dollars a year in salaries before they recover a dime or take anyone to court. Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 54 minutes ago, shiva2999 said: Say they pay these guys salary and benefits that add up to $100,000 per year. That's 87,000 x 100,000 = $8,700,000,000. Almost 9 billion dollars a year in salaries before they recover a dime or take anyone to court. https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/IRS-Agent-Salary Looks like the average salary of an IRS agent is around 62k. So we're looking at an additional $5B or so in salary. Federal tax revenue is projected to be around $4.7T. Forgive me if I don't think one tenth of one percent of our tax revenue is an outrageous price tag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/IRS-Agent-Salary Looks like the average salary of an IRS agent is around 62k. So we're looking at an additional $5B or so in salary. Federal tax revenue is projected to be around $4.7T. Forgive me if I don't think one tenth of one percent of our tax revenue is an outrageous price tag. What it costs you is a certainty. What you'll recover is just a guess. Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, shiva2999 said: What it costs you is a certainty. What you'll recover is just a guess. "Don't arrest that murderer, it will cost the state money to prosecute and imprison him!" "But...we'll get a murderer off the streets" "You don't know that, what if the jury acquits?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 45 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: "Don't arrest that murderer, it will cost the state money to prosecute and imprison him!" "But...we'll get a murderer off the streets" "You don't know that, what if the jury acquits?" So, you're arguing that as long as evil doers exist, it's impossible to spend too much money to protect our precious behinds? Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, shiva2999 said: So, you're arguing that as long as evil doers exist, it's impossible to spend too much money to protect our precious behinds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." Agree or disagree? Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, shiva2999 said: "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." Agree or disagree? Well I think pretty much every Republican elected official ought to be arrested and the party ought to be barred from running for office ever again so there are certainly instances where I would agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: Well I think pretty much every Republican elected official ought to be arrested and the party ought to be barred from running for office ever again so there are certainly instances where I would agree. Presumably this implies Democrats are more virtuous than Republicans. Is that a correct inference? Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 http://www.thisdayinquotes.com/2010/01/lives-of-bengal-lancer-we-have-ways-to.html January 11, 2015 The origin of the movie cliché “We have ways of making you talk!” http://lh5.ggpht.com/-rKhaBhORBaY/VLQssqSCwoI/AAAAAAAAhp0/jBrg6ycwPB0/Lives%252520of%252520a%252520Bengal%252520Lancer%25255B9%25255D.png?imgmax=800 The threatening words “We have ways of making you talk” are now a familiar cliché in movies. It’s usually said for comedic effect, often with a heavy foreign accent, like: “Ve haf vays of making you talk!” If you’re a classic film buff you may know that the origin of this movie quote is a line in an old Gary Cooper movie titled The Lives of a Bengal Lancer. If you’re a major film quote geek you may know that the familiar version used today is actually a misquote of the actual line in the film. The Lives of a Bengal Lancer is a Rudyard Kipling-style tale set in India during the days when it was a British colony. It premiered in New York City on January 11, 1935. The film is loosely based on an autobiographical book of the same name, written by British Army officer and author Francis Yeats-Brown in 1930. The heroes of the movie are three British officers in the famed Bengal Lancers: Lieutenant McGregor, played by Cooper; Lieutenant Forsythe, played by Franchot Tone; and, Lieutenant Stone, played by Richard Cromwell. The plot deals with their efforts to thwart a revolt against British rule by an Indian leader named Mohammed Khan, played by the great character actor Douglas Dumbrille. When Stone is taken captive by Khan, McGregor and Forsythe go undercover to try to find and rescue him. But they are also captured by Khan. The famous quote from the film comes during a scene in which Mohammed Khan has the three officers brought to him for what starts out as a deceptively cordial dinner. Soon, Mohammed Khan gets to the point. He offers to let them go free if they tell him the location of a huge supply of British ammunition he needs to provide firepower for his planned rebellion. Khan explains: “You have only to answer two very simple questions. By what route is the ammunition train coming? And, just where does the regiment plan to meet it for convoy?" Forsythe says flippantly: “Well, when the furry little animal jumped out of the bag he really jumped, didn’t he?” Khan responds by making his ominously memorable threat — in perfectly good English, with no silly accent: “Well, gentlemen? We have ways to make men talk.” The Lancers refuse to give Khan the information he wants. So, as threatened, Khan uses his ways of encouraging answers. One by one, starting with Gary Cooper, sharp slivers of bamboo are inserted under their fingernails. Then the bamboo slivers are set on fire. Lieutenant Stone eventually spills the beans. But by the end of the film he redeems himself heroically and gets his revenge by killing Khan. Somehow, over the decades Mohammed Khan’s sinister line from The Lives of a Bengal Lancer morphed into a comedic cliché, usually in misquoted form. Nowadays, most people who aren’t classic film buffs are totally unaware of its origin. Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 26 minutes ago, shiva2999 said: Presumably this implies Democrats are more virtuous than Republicans. Is that a correct inference? Thanks for asking in this manner, it's much more conducive to mutual understanding! The answer is "in some ways yes, in other ways no" If liberty and justice are virtues one cares about, I would say yes Dems are obviously better advocates than Republicans right now. Doesn't mean I consider them GOOD advocates- if they were, they'd agree with me and already be in the process of mass Republican arrests and impeachments- but I'd rate them higher than Republicans because just in the last 24 hours we've learned one GOP House Rep begged Mark Meadows to convince Trump to declare martial law in order to remain in office after the 2020 election and another said that if she were the one organizing Jan 6 it would have worked because everybody would have had guns. The party is openly celebrating an insurrection attempt. Yes, Democrats are more virtuous than Republicans, in the sense that 2 out of 100 is a better test score than -47 out of 100. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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