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Lit should ban anyone who uses Nazi iconography


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2 hours ago, RichJ said:

Are you shoving bigmacs to your piehole again? I said OR . Some people here like your FB fat friend who's a gimp   or mickpussyboz have threatened posters here. 

Get up and get a job and stop mooching off your mom. 

So sayeth the racist,Nazi loving Nazi defender.

Fucking loser.

So saying "eat shit and die" is a threat?  Not even .  You're a know nothing, democracy hating pos just like the Nazi ex President you bow before.

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18 minutes ago, Philly'sFinest said:

If Lit isn't banning the scum here that have made death threats, doxxed, and broke all the other rules he laid out, then he certainly isn't banning over a nazi sign LOL

Love all these posters butthurt, tho

 

That's because Lit decided to TERMINATE the TOS. Are you starting to see how this works?

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30 minutes ago, TonyasTaters said:

It's hilarious Doxxing is not illegal. What are these nut jobs so worried about. According to them they have said nothing wrong here. Lol. Remember the Philly surprise? Lol

I am absolutely comfortable with Lit banning you too, by the way.  Doxxing should never be tolerated.

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1 minute ago, ICRockets2 said:

If you aren't anti-Nazi, you are a Nazi.  None of you are anti-Nazi if you can't co-sign a very simple argument against Nazi iconography.  

I am anti nazi. Anti kkk, ANTI-antifa, anti-blm ,anti anti-lgbtq, etc, but even they have freedom of free speech.

 

As long as these groups don't  act out their ideology in a violent manner and force anyone into following them they are free to talk or carry whatever banner they want. 

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5 minutes ago, RichJ said:

I am anti nazi. Anti kkk, ANTI-antifa, anti-blm ,anti anti-lgbtq, etc, but even they have freedom of free speech.

 

As long as these groups don't  act out their ideology in a violent manner and force anyone into following them they are free to talk or carry whatever banner they want. 

Great, so you have no problem with Drag Queen Story Hour since nobody there is forcing kids to follow them.

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3 hours ago, micknaboz said:

So sayeth the racist,Nazi loving Nazi defender.

Fucking loser.

So saying "eat shit and die" is a threat?  Not even .  You're a know nothing, democracy hating pos just like the Nazi ex President you bow before.

 Learn to read and then take your anger meds 

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1 hour ago, RichJ said:

They can have their story time . I never said they couldn't. I'm just not participating in it nor ar my children.  I have always been for  the parents having the power to decide how to raise their children not the government. 

 But you'll knowing vote for the people who want to stop drag story hours.

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8 hours ago, LIBills said:

This coming from a violent gay whacko tranny.

If there is any banning going on around here, you should be the first to go since you basically have told the whole board to go kill themselves.

Go kill your self! Lol

“There he goes. One of God's own prototypes.

A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production.

Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

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You know the only thing this fucking idiot has done is make me feel more negative about a community that I never used to feel negative about at all.

“There he goes. One of God's own prototypes.

A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production.

Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

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2 hours ago, RichJ said:

I am anti nazi. Anti kkk, ANTI-antifa, anti-blm ,anti anti-lgbtq, etc, but even they have freedom of free speech.

 

As long as these groups don't  act out their ideology 

This is, unfortunately, a juvenile mindset- and also a privileged one.  Let me try to demonstrate by painting a picture for you:

There's a guy who owns a bar.  We'll call him Ray.  Ray doesn't like Nazis.  He'd even consider himself anti-Nazi.  But Ray is also anti-censorship, so while he doesn't politically associate with Nazis he is not comfortable restricting SOCIALIZATION with Nazis.  As such, Ray has a friend whose admiration for the Fuhrer is something of an open secret. 

One day, Ray's friend- we'll call him Ralph- comes into the bar.  A patron sees Ralph's arm and notices an SS tattoo.  You know the lightning bolts?  Ralph sees the guy eyeing the tattoo with disdain, so he stands up and does a little Nazi salute just to troll the guy a little bit.  Guy turns to Ray in disbelief.  Ray shrugs and pours someone else a beer.  Guy says "seriously?  you're just gonna let him hang out here?"  Ray says yeah, I don't believe in censorship.  Disgusted, the guy leaves.  Delighted, Ralph smiles.

Over the next couple weeks, Ralph keeps coming in.  And he brings friends with him.  Friends with similar tattoos and similar opinions about Jews.  Ray doesn't mind because, again, anti-censorship.  Some of his patrons, however, do.  So they stop coming in.  They also stop talking to Ray in public, opting instead to mean-mug him at every opportunity.  This bothers Ray.  He's not a Nazi!  What the fuck are they mad at HIM for?  

Hoping to turn things around for his public image, Ray goes to visit a rabbi in a neighboring town.  He wants the rabbi to come visit his bar thinking if the locals see a rabbi at what is now being called "the Nazi bar" then everyone will be his friend again.  The rabbi is suspicious, he thinks "I bet this guy is also asking Father Bill because he just wants to turn this into the set-up for a joke for some viral marketing".  Ray laughs, says no, it's not that, and explains.  Now the rabbi is stunned into silence.  He knows he has to choose his next words carefully.  

"You'd ask me to risk my life like this?"

Ray dismisses his concerns.  "No it's nothing like that!  I know these guys, trust me, they're not violent people."

"Do they know you're Jewish?"

"Oh, I'm not Jewish."

"Ah...so when you say they aren't violent people, you mean they've never been violent to you."

"Well, yes, but-"

"So you have not actually seen them interact with a Jew?"

"No, I suppose I haven't, but if they acted out their ideology I'd ban them on the spot!"

"That doesn't exactly help the victim who had to be beaten or killed for you to learn you were wrong about Nazis, now does it?"







See this is the problem with your view on censorship.  You're not at risk of being killed by bigots.  So from where you sit comfortably, it's easy to say "I don't have a problem with them until they act out their ideology."  Some of us don't have that luxury.  Some of us need to behave precautionarily.  

What that ultimately means is that if you give Nazis the right to free assembly you are also restricting the rights of free assembly to any demographic Nazis could conceivably attack.  If there is a bar that Nazis frequent, Jews and LGBT people CANNOT SAFELY GO TO THAT BAR.  It's all well and good for you to say "well fine, but only until they act out their ideology."  Two problems with that:

1) They already did.  We call it the Holocaust.

2) If you limit it to "I mean if they act it out AGAIN" then what you're saying is that you won't take our concerns seriously until AFTER we're proven right and, you know, fucking murdered.

I'm sorry that it makes you uncomfortable, but the fact of the matter is that free speech must have limitations.  Either the speech of the oppressor is stifled, or a whole host of rights for the oppressed will be constantly under threat.  Freedom of speech is not- cannot be- absolute.  One way or the other, someone's is restricted.



 

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16 minutes ago, HipKat said:

You know the only thing this fucking idiot has done is make me feel more negative about a community that I never used to feel negative about at all.

"I was never a bigot before, but this one person is really making me judge the entire demographic he belongs to"

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I'm kinda bummed though that @Victor7removed the Swastika. I mean, I thought this was a free speech, non-censored forum...

But I WILL commend him for doing something mod-like for the first time I can recall in the time I've been here

“There he goes. One of God's own prototypes.

A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production.

Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

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