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3 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said:

Come again?

You made a claim.

I said your claim is the excuse, not the truth.

What's so hard to understand?

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8 minutes ago, shiva2999 said:

I joined this site in Oct 2001, and during that time I watched wars with Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya wholeheartedly supported by Americans on the board and in general in the population and media.

Who turned out to be right?

Same thing with this idiotic war with Russia.

It's like the fucking 50s all over again.

I cut most of those who want you banned some slack because I remember when I wanted you banned.  I saw your condemnation of our bullshit wars in Iraq the 9/11 narrative that drove that bullshit war as hating Mercuh.  So don't hate them.  There are willfully stupid people out there, but eventually you will get some people to wake up and ask questions.  Yeah, I knew that we were headed to war with Russia as far back as 2005 during Shrub's "orange revolution" in Ukraine.  The one that threw out Ukraine's former communist party boss in favor of a pro western Oligarch (the Maidanazis are but the second attempt at destroying Ukraine's "sovereign democracy [sic(k)])." Yeah, Wolfowitz and PNAC, remember them? What has gone in Ukraine in the past 20 years, NATO's drang noch Osten, the glorification of nuclear weapons and the general insanity of Obama and Biden's foreign policy was essentially drawn up by the exact same assholes who gave us Iraq.  I just wish these people would wake the fuck up and see they are being played by some very hideously evil people.  

That said, yeah it is like McCarthy.  Well, why not.  The Russia bashing in this country (with the exception of a very brief window in the 1940s "because as Truman observed, when the Nazis get too strong we should arm the Russians to fight them, and then when the Russians get too strong we should arm the Nazis and so therefore destroy them both") is 105 years old.  That is five generations of Americans inculcated with an irrational hatred and distrust of all things Russia from before they can even articulate a complete thought.  To borrow from Michael Morrell's infamous projection, Americans are almost genetically predisposed to hate Russia and want war against Russia.  Its no surprise to me that the mental ill such as ICWeiner are fans of the psychosis cultivated caringly by the CIA and its predecessors since 1919.  

The scary thing is how the shit libs try to defend the same Russia bashing that was used as a cudgel against the civil rights movement's leadership from the 20s to the 60s, how they try to justify crackdowns on dissent, and its laughably comical how they want to use Russia as justification to do the same thing here that they accuse the Russians of doing, cracking down on dissent, silencing opposition political leadership, and stomping on free press and speech.  

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2 minutes ago, Herodotus said:

I cut most of those who want you banned some slack because I remember when I wanted you banned.  I saw your condemnation of our bullshit wars in Iraq the 9/11 narrative that drove that bullshit war as hating Mercuh.  So don't hate them.  There are willfully stupid people out there, but eventually you will get some people to wake up and ask questions.  Yeah, I knew that we were headed to war with Russia as far back as 2005 during Shrub's "orange revolution" in Ukraine.  The one that threw out Ukraine's former communist party boss in favor of a pro western Oligarch (the Maidanazis are but the second attempt at destroying Ukraine's "sovereign democracy [sic(k)])." Yeah, Wolfowitz and PNAC, remember them? What has gone in Ukraine in the past 20 years, NATO's drang noch Osten, the glorification of nuclear weapons and the general insanity of Obama and Biden's foreign policy was essentially drawn up by the exact same assholes who gave us Iraq.  I just wish these people would wake the fuck up and see they are being played by some very hideously evil people.  

That said, yeah it is like McCarthy.  Well, why not.  The Russia bashing in this country (with the exception of a very brief window in the 1940s "because as Truman observed, when the Nazis get too strong we should arm the Russians to fight them, and then when the Russians get too strong we should arm the Nazis and so therefore destroy them both") is 105 years old.  That is five generations of Americans inculcated with an irrational hatred and distrust of all things Russia from before they can even articulate a complete thought.  To borrow from Michael Morrell's infamous projection, Americans are almost genetically predisposed to hate Russia and want war against Russia.  Its no surprise to me that the mental ill such as ICWeiner are fans of the psychosis cultivated caringly by the CIA and its predecessors since 1919.  

The scary thing is how the shit libs try to defend the same Russia bashing that was used as a cudgel against the civil rights movement's leadership from the 20s to the 60s, how they try to justify crackdowns on dissent, and its laughably comical how they want to use Russia as justification to do the same thing here that they accuse the Russians of doing, cracking down on dissent, silencing opposition political leadership, and stomping on free press and speech.  

Everyone but you and a few others are willfully stupid according to you. Ok then so please tell me how many Ukrainian soldiers are on Russian soil? Please provide photo or video evidence of Moscow being torn apart by bombing? Throw in a few hospitals to? 

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2 minutes ago, TonyasTaters said:

Everyone but you and a few others are willfully stupid according to you. Ok then so please tell me how many Ukrainian soldiers are on Russian soil? Please provide photo or video evidence of Moscow being torn apart by bombing? Throw in a few hospitals to? 

Still waiting...

"The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

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2 minutes ago, TonyasTaters said:

Everyone but you and a few others are willfully stupid according to you. Ok then so please tell me how many Ukrainian soldiers are on Russian soil? Please provide photo or video evidence of Moscow being torn apart by bombing? Throw in a few hospitals to? 

How many Japanese soldiers were on American territory in WWII? 

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4 minutes ago, Herodotus said:

How many Japanese soldiers were on American territory in WWII? 

The way she promotes every shit lib trope and then gets confused when we challenge the narrative makes me suspicious for some reason.

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http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

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40 minutes ago, shiva2999 said:

You made a claim.

I said your claim is the excuse, not the truth.

What's so hard to understand?

Just so we're clear, when I say explicit things they're too confusing for you, but when you just throw out vague platitudes I should be able to fill in the details by myself?

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2 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said:

Just so we're clear, when I say explicit things they're too confusing for you, but when you just throw out vague platitudes I should be able to fill in the details by myself?

You call this trying to be clear?

Negro, pleeeeze....

"The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

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2 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said:

And you haven't self-immolated to help Russia, guess you don't really care either

Russia isn't asking me for self-immolation but Zelensky is most certainly asking you for money.

When are you going to send him some?

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http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

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3 minutes ago, Herodotus said:

Donetsk and Lugansk cities for starters.  I am not here to do your research for you

Ohhhh I get it now you don't know which cities are Russian and which ones are Ukrainian. Come on now both those cities are Ukrainian. Let me guess you have another Russian propaganda conspiracy. Please stop posting Russian propaganda on here. 

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15 minutes ago, TonyasTaters said:

Ohhhh I get it now you don't know which cities are Russian and which ones are Ukrainian. Come on now both those cities are Ukrainian. Let me guess you have another Russian propaganda conspiracy. Please stop posting Russian propaganda on here. 

And you do?

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6 minutes ago, TonyasTaters said:

Ohhhh I get it now you don't know which cities are Russian and which ones are Ukrainian. Come on now both those cities are Ukrainian. Let me guess you have another Russian propaganda conspiracy. Please stop posting Russian propaganda on here. 

See, this is what she's trying to do as a Democratic Party operative.

She wants to virtue signal by using "who fired the first shot?" as a slam dunk justification for labelling Russia as evil and Ukraine as innocent, while steadfastly avoiding any mention of American involvement and the historical record.

In other words, she wants to change the subject after I exposed her trying to smear the writer because as we know, to disagree with her reasons for pimping Ukraine is because we're bad people.

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http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

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12 minutes ago, Herodotus said:

And you do?

Don't let her suck you in.

The subject is you guys paying through the nose to fuck with Russia.

Just think, what could you have done at home with the money and the once alive, now dead, you've flushed down the Ukrainian toilet?

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"The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

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1 minute ago, shiva2999 said:

Don't let her suck you in.

The subject is you guys paying through the nose to fuck with Russia.

Just think, what could you have done at home with the money and the once alive, now dead you've flushed down the Ukrainian toilet?

Left this in the world according to memes thread but it sums my thoughts up very well

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22 minutes ago, shiva2999 said:

See, this is what she's trying to do as a Democratic Party operative.

She wants to virtue signal by using "who fired the first shot?" as a slam dunk justification for labelling Russia as evil and Ukraine as innocent, while steadfastly avoiding any mention of American involvement and the historical record.

In other words, she wants to change the subject after I exposed her trying to smear the writer because as we know, to disagree with her reasons for pimping Ukraine is because we're bad people.

Oh its true, I am a very bad person.  Catholic guilt, a leftist bent, and libertarian principles that the government should only be there to help the least well off, and otherwise it should go fuck off.  In foreign policy it should be the facilitator of diologue and peaceful resolution of conflict, have no membership in entangling alliances, and should seek friendship of all and freedom of trade.

 

By the way, about Democrats and Republicans, how right wing did the Clinton revolution take this country? Well again, he turned the DNC into Republicans and the GOP into fanatics. So when I correclty say your foreign policy aligns with President Cheney, Shrub, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz and you think you can score points by saying I cite Kissinger, do remember -and this is no defense of Nixon- that his boss was to the left of any presidential candidate or office holder (with the possible exception of Bernie) we have had this century.  Again, this isn't praising Tricky Dick its rightly saying we as a nation have embraced right wing authoritarianism so much that Nixon would be deemed as too far to the left and too much in favor of "appeasement" to get elected.  Hell, compare what he wanted compared to Biden, Obama, or Clinton to say nothing of Reagan, Bush, Shrub, or Trump

https://www.salon.com/2020/08/08/4-reasons-why-richard-nixon-would-be-too-liberal-for-trump-republicans_partner/

Yeah, I am just a terrible mean ole poopy head and should probably banned for my own good.

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37 minutes ago, RichJ said:

Tonya is a she? 

Not sure but ever since I first saw the handle, my mind said Tonya's Taters, with Tonya being a Slavic variation. Who knows? She could even be Ukrainian. The Zone has its own in house Ukrainian propagandist, so I don't see why you wouldn't have one here.

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http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

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2 hours ago, shiva2999 said:

Not sure but ever since I first saw the handle, my mind said Tonya's Taters, with Tonya being a Slavic variation. Who knows? She could even be Ukrainian. The Zone has its own in house Ukrainian propagandist, so I don't see why you wouldn't have one here.

Who is it at the Zone?

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