Why Elon is making changes at Twitter

[LiterateStylish]

1 minute ago, Toofast80 said:

I’d laugh at it as well. Since it makes zero sense! 

if you don’t know much about economic theory, just say so.

[TonyasTaters]

6 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said:

if you don’t know much about economic theory, just say so.

Toofast has no clue... Thinks he is the smartest in the room. Instead of having a discussion he just calls people Simpleton. 

[Thebowflexbody]

2 hours ago, micknaboz said:

You're a POS right wing liar.  So GFY asshole.

Poor triggered baby. 

 

[Toofast80]

19 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said:

if you don’t know much about economic theory, just say so.

Then you should just admit that. And understand that what they are calling “Libertarian socialism” is a completely oxymoronic statement or theory. There is “economic theory” and there is “governmental theory” when you combine the two and then say “look I created the optimum balance between individual life and social responsibility”, it doesn’t mean that it’s accurate. “But it’s on Wikipedia” 🤣

[Thebowflexbody]

4 minutes ago, Toofast80 said:

Then you should just admit that. And understand that what they are calling “Libertarian socialism” is a completely oxymoronic statement or theory. There is “economic theory” and there is “governmental theory” when you combine the two and then say “look I created the optimum balance between individual life and social responsibility”, it doesn’t mean that it’s accurate. “But it’s on Wikipedia” 🤣

Wiki as a great "source".  LOL

 

[Toofast80]

3 minutes ago, Thebowflexbody said:

Wiki as a great "source".  LOL

 

ICR and the other cellar dwellers probably typed that bogus posting up and call it an accurate depiction of their ridiculous concept 🤣!

[ICRockets2]

1 hour ago, LiterateStylish said:

Semantics.

Its Liberterian Socialism.

Libertarian Socialism is more of a broad ideological framework, like Liberalism, Conservatism, etc.  It's not specifically about economic organization like capitalism and socialism are.

[ICRockets2]

1 hour ago, LiterateStylish said:

“When the debate is a lot, slander becomes the tool of the loser”

Yes. These critiques have been pointed out since the dawn of communism and not a single person has ever had an answer for them.

”People will just do it” is not an answer. Because they won’t. It’s hard enough to get 12 people on a jury to agree. It is impossible to get 6 billion people, or 350 million people, or even 100,000 people to agree.

 

Good thing I don't want that many people to have to agree.  The point of communism is small-scale organization and then collaboration between communities.  

[ICRockets2]

1 hour ago, LiterateStylish said:

Most often through councils.

Aka a government.

Even though, gasp, no one would call it that.

 

Yes but much more localized government than we have now.  

[ICRockets2]

1 hour ago, Toofast80 said:

Equating Libertarianism with socialism, or saying they work well together makes no sense. They are almost 100% opposing principles , personal responsibility is a core concept in Libertarianism. 

Libertarian Socialism is the only true type of Libertarianism.  Anarcho-capitalism is a nonsense ideology that only the stupidest of the dumbest morons support.

[ICRockets2]

19 minutes ago, Thebowflexbody said:

Wiki as a great "source".  LOL

 

It is, and most scholars agree.  You need to do some legwork to check the citations within the articles but you should be doing that anyway.  

[LiterateStylish]

6 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said:

Good thing I don't want that many people to have to agree.  The point of communism is small-scale organization and then collaboration between communities.  

You can do that now.

My family knows people in communes. Have at it.

[Toofast80]

5 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said:

Libertarian Socialism is the only true type of Libertarianism.  Anarcho-capitalism is a nonsense ideology that only the stupidest of the dumbest morons support.

Freedom to “opt-in” or “opt-out” of without fear of punishment or loss of said freedom does not function in a socialist ideology! Forced input would be required to support said socialist society. Free market capitalism is almost exclusively how Libertarianism functions.  

But the complete removal of governmental controls on the markets and economy is certainly a must. A free individual can choose to contractually obligate themselves to a “communistic or socialistic” society, but it can’t be obligatory and call itself “libertarianism”!

[Toofast80]

7 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said:

You can do that now.

My family knows people in communes. Have at it.

That’s the point of Libertarianism, freedom to choose your obligations, but it’s also the freedom to not have forced or coerced input into societies. Again how do you do both? It’s IMPOSSIBLE. Libertanism is based on VOLUNTARY charitable input, is socialism or communism.?

[ICRockets2]

8 minutes ago, Toofast80 said:

That’s the point of Libertarianism, freedom to choose your obligations, but it’s also the freedom to not have forced or coerced input into societies. Again how do you do both? It’s IMPOSSIBLE. Libertanism is based on VOLUNTARY charitable input, is socialism or communism.?

You can't have capitalism without coercion.

[Toofast80]

Anyway you look at it taxation=socialistic input into society.  That’s why many Libertarians support a “use tax”, begrudgingly. Since it’s understood that some form of monetary input would be required to function certain common necessities. But, again, that would be a voluntary input, based on the free individuals use or lack there-of. How does that equate with “socialistic or communistic” societies with obligatory inputs to create equality for all in those societies

[Toofast80]

Just now, ICRockets2 said:

You can't have capitalism without coercion.

You can’t have “communism or socialism “ without coercion!

[micknaboz]

Libertarians suck!  Most of them a  bunch of narcissistic give a fuck less about others douche bags.

Fk em all, let God sort 'em out.

[LIBills]

3 minutes ago, micknaboz said:

Libertarians suck!  Most of them a  bunch of narcissistic give a fuck less about others douche bags.

Fk em all, let God sort 'em out.

We all know this is you...

[Toofast80]

1 hour ago, ICRockets2 said:

You can't have capitalism without coercion.

In your supposed “Libertarian socialist” or “anarcho communist” societies who will have control of the “currency” (moneyless society will still have a currency whether Labor, goods, etc...)? If there is no capitalistic incentives who is going to produce, distribute, clean, etc... the goods and necessary services to sustain said society? What if nobody wants to be the farmer, for example, how will those that are to do that duty chosen? By force or coercion!?

Again, and again “libertarian socialism” and “Anarcho communism” are oxymoronical assertions, they CANNOT function together! 

[Toofast80]

37 minutes ago, micknaboz said:

Libertarians suck!  Most of them a  bunch of narcissistic give a fuck less about others douche bags.

Fk em all, let God sort 'em out.

Sounds like how many Democrats act!

[ICRockets2]

29 minutes ago, Toofast80 said:

In your supposed “Libertarian socialist” or “anarcho communist” societies who will have control of the “currency” (moneyless society will still have a currency whether Labor, goods, etc...)? If there is no capitalistic incentives who is going to produce, distribute, clean, etc... the goods and necessary services to sustain said society? What if nobody wants to be the farmer, for example, how will those that are to do that duty chosen? By force or coercion!?

Again, and again “libertarian socialism” and “Anarcho communism” are oxymoronical assertions, they CANNOT function together! 

The whole point of doing it small-scale is that the benefits/compensation/etc for doing shitty jobs can be tailored to the community.  If nobody wants to do it and someone says "I'll do it for first pick of meat from Charlie's" then the community can say "yeah okay those are acceptable terms" or "how's this for a counter-offer?"  If there's a community with some particularly nice mansions you can say "hey, whoever agrees to do it gets to live in this awesome house" or something like that.  If no agreement is made, you can just do some sort of bi-weekly rotation or something.  There are tons of ways this issue can be resolved, it isn't a one-size-fits-all dilemma.

[micknaboz]

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11 hours ago, LiterateStylish said:

It is.

Socialism, fascism, communism, collectivism, social justice; when the same system fails under an assigned name, leftists assign a new name.

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8 hours ago, ICRockets2 said:

The whole point of doing it small-scale is that the benefits/compensation/etc for doing shitty jobs can be tailored to the community.  If nobody wants to do it and someone says "I'll do it for first pick of meat from Charlie's" then the community can say "yeah okay those are acceptable terms" or "how's this for a counter-offer?"  If there's a community with some particularly nice mansions you can say "hey, whoever agrees to do it gets to live in this awesome house" or something like that.  If no agreement is made, you can just do some sort of bi-weekly rotation or something.  There are tons of ways this issue can be resolved, it isn't a one-size-fits-all dilemma.

But that is not your leftist way.   l Leftists  philosophies need centralized control; subscribers to these philosophies want that.   When the Supreme Court punted the decision to legalize abortion at the local or state level you went ballistic.