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This is a funny thread.

Just a note.

Calling someone stupid is an assessment of fact. Intelligence can be measured and thus can be verified.

Whereas calling someone a bad person is just an opinion and can't be measured and thus can't be proven or disproven.

The first is productive, the second not.

 

"The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

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1 hour ago, Herodotus said:

Since this thread is nothing but school yard bully nonsense, have you cut your dick off and made it your new cunt you nazi transexual shit? Hey, Hip, is it true you are planning on killing a kindergarten class cuz the girls there aren't reciprocating your advances you disgusting diddler.  Fuck you.  Ya know what, I'm fucking done.  Used to be able to argue with people, but that requires them to have some sort of cognitive ability.  I'd be better off talking to the cat to not hunt birds.  Fuck, its so damn tedious and boring to be here.  When the time comes I'll say I told you so but then you fuckwits will scroll through corporate state controlled press and cLit will find some pathetic new ad hominem.  So go fuck off the lot of you.  

lmao - yeah i’m sure you’ll tell us you told us so while linking a FansOfRussiaAndPutin.news article 

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5 minutes ago, StraightJ said:

I thought I had gone out of my way to afford you respect and create an understanding, and hopefully to avoid you feeling the need to perform the role the "terrorist"/"extremist" trolls are performing(I have no intention to see you sullied, as I believe you truly believe the things you say, unlike the trolls who seem hellbent on chaos and defamation).

Dude, what the hell are you talking about? I have not insulted you have I? Not at all.

if I’m wrong when I say you believe in the KP, or that the idea of controlling the money and the media isn’t  what the Jews/Zionists are doing, please state that fact and I’ll apologize.

I have no beef with you at all, but your hackles are way up, like someone who flinches when someone moves their hand. 
 

this is about the only thing I give a fuck about anymore. Are we being controlled, manipulated by a small group of people. A conspiracy. A Star Chamber. You seem to think so. That interests me. Sorry if you thought I was attacking you, but we’ve been through this before…

 

 

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8 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said:

lmao - yeah i’m sure you’ll tell us you told us so while linking a FansOfRussiaAndPutin.news article 

Question.

If you, as a self-admitted American partisan have an opinion and I have an different opinion, does that make me a self-admitted partisan myself?

"The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

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22 minutes ago, StraightJ said:

 I've long opposed globalism and the lack of US/personal autonomy, as well as the bankers behind it, before I ever figured out those who comprise their makeup, which I now do not bother mentioning

 

 

 

We know you mean Jews, Nazi shithead.  Kill yourself.

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22 minutes ago, StraightJ said:

not the 9th degree black belt in Judo of Vladimir Putin

Wasn’t he stripped of that rank by the Judo Fed?

I thought I read that.

btw, do you think being head of the KGB had anything to do with his high rank? Hmmmm…

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3 minutes ago, jc856 said:

Why, Shiva, of course.

sry, usually I highlight it…

ok, thanks.  I just want you to know my question was sincere, and not some nefarious plot to entrap you, merely an attempt to get a firmer grasp on a complex narrative that involves a lot of accusations of deception from both "sides".  I have no idea what shiva has said on various issues, just recall that he at one point was a person of great courage whom I expressed admiration for.  It does not, of course, mean I have to agree with all(or anything else) he has said since then, even though I refuse to recant my principled endorsement of him for his brave assessment,  even if he were to join character assassination campaigns against me.  I think I have displayed integrity about such things, and intend to continue to do so.  I have openly mocked the political games for being akin to the legal definition of team red/blue that most of you refuse to see, and have no current intention of recanting that and being sucked back into that false and purposefully misleading paradigm, and feel grateful for this multiverse throwing me a bone each time I witness someone capable of seeing past various deceptions and displaying the courage to express such, despite the weight of society having been constructed through the weaponry of the media oligopoly to discourage anyone who rejects various paradigms.  A large part of why I stayed away was my concern that various perception of me contributed to my own words having the opposite effect of their intent.  I was hoping that admission and show of humility might prevent within most the desire to participate in character defamation attempts against me(I do not support them against even the most deceptive on here, but think honest dialogue can still win the day despite the system being stacked against it in many areas).  I hope that none of this is disagreeable, I do not wish to create more conflict, but instead more resolution.  However, I still find it difficult at times to avoid being like the example in the national article written about the Range, where "11 year veteran, @Meathead, takes the bait"(which, IIRC, involved him replying to a @wagoncirclerpost.  Apparently, the authors of the article considered Wagon a master baiter).

Andy did you hear about this one?-REM . "I don't think I'm easy to talk about. I've got a very irregular head. And I'm not anything that you think I am anyway". -Syd Barrett, founder of Pink Floyd. Rolling Stone, December 1971.  https://nativeamericanchurches.org/ My Adopt A Bill is Stefon Diggs  My 2nd Adopt A Bill is Christian Wade(he gets an exemption and doesn't require a spot) :)    Being staff seemed unable to train an elite legend how to run, Cole Beasley is my backup.   (I doubt that explanation is wanted).

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1 minute ago, jc856 said:

Wasn’t he stripped of that rank by the Judo Fed?

I thought I read that.

btw, do you think being head of the KGB had anything to do with his high rank? Hmmmm…

I doubt very much that Putin cares about his Judo accreditation.

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"The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

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6 minutes ago, StraightJ said:

ok, thanks.  I just want you to know my question was sincere, and not some nefarious plot to entrap you, merely an attempt to get a firmer grasp on a complex narrative that involves a lot of accusations of deception from both "sides".  I have no idea what shiva has said on various issues, just recall that he at one point was a person of great courage whom I expressed admiration for.  It does not, of course, mean I have to agree with all(or anything else) he has said since then, even though I refuse to recant my principled endorsement of him for his brave assessment,  even if he were to join character assassination campaigns against me.  I think I have displayed integrity about such things, and intend to continue to do so.  I have openly mocked the political games for being akin to the legal definition of team red/blue that most of you refuse to see, and have no current intention of recanting that and being sucked back into that false and purposefully misleading paradigm, and feel grateful for this multiverse throwing me a bone each time I witness someone capable of seeing past various deceptions and displaying the courage to express such, despite the weight of society having been constructed through the weaponry of the media oligopoly to discourage anyone who rejects various paradigms.  A large part of why I stayed away was my concern that various perception of me contributed to my own words having the opposite effect of their intent.  I was hoping that admission and show of humility might prevent within most the desire to participate in character defamation attempts against me(I do not support them against even the most deceptive on here, but think honest dialogue can still win the day despite the system being stacked against it in many areas).  I hope that none of this is disagreeable, I do not wish to create more conflict, but instead more resolution.  However, I still find it difficult at times to avoid being like the example in the national article written about the Range, where "11 year veteran, @Meathead, takes the bait"(which, IIRC, involved him replying to a @wagoncirclerpost.  Apparently, the authors of the article considered Wagon a master baiter).

Fuck off Nazi

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7 minutes ago, shiva2999 said:

I doubt very much that Putin cares about his Judo accreditation.

Maybe you’re right, idk.

I’ll check the internet to see if any Judo Federation board members have died from polonium.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, jc856 said:

Dude, what the hell are you talking about? I have not insulted you have I? Not at all.

if I’m wrong when I say you believe in the KP, or that the idea of controlling the money and the media isn’t  what the Jews/Zionists are doing, please state that fact and I’ll apologize.

I have no beef with you at all, but your hackles are way up, like someone who flinches when someone moves their hand. 
 

this is about the only thing I give a fuck about anymore. Are we being controlled, manipulated by a small group of people. A conspiracy. A Star Chamber. You seem to think so. That interests me. Sorry if you thought I was attacking you, but we’ve been through this before…

 

 

I did not mean for you to infer what you apparently did...and am surprised at your level of reaction.  This thread is not about us, after all, and I do not wish to steal the limnelight and suppose I could take better care of my words to be apparently less wanton, and just recalled that the more my little fingers type the more surface attack area I provide.  Also, if you know me, you realize I am generally not attempting personal slights at anyone, much less someone whom I have grown to respect for various things, and that I reference people playing the conditioned roles that in my sometimes less than humble opinion was brilliantly illustrated by the allegory of "Agent Smith" in the original Matrix film by the  Wachowski brothers/sisters(if memory served me better, I'd make mention of the old school song that4 just popped into my head that seemed to have the exlamation "Brothers and sisters!!!" in it), where folks are merely fulfilling a "next man up" in prefrabricated roles for whomever is present at the time.  That tis how I recognize various things as happening, in what a consider a rather brilliant use of lateral control mechanism by the oligarchs who are underdogs in terms of numbers, yet  provide us examples of how to overcome such disadvantages which we can choose to be aware of and possibly make use of at some point in our own lives, or not.  It's like with Belichick, I like to be aware of his adept nature rather than denouncing the fellow, yet at the same time do not attribute superpowers to him and engage in the idolatry that HCSM made an emphatic point to draw the line in the sand about, which to me deserves to be noted as an important milsetone of last season, possibly akin to whatever the hell he did at halftime of the Tampa Bay game.

As much as I would like to participate in this further and recover from whatever self-injurious damage I may have caused, there are some thing in real life that I am on a deadline to address that could incur much more tangible losses to me if I give preference to making up for my apparent mistakes here, rather than addressing them quire soon.  I ask the Range for a bit of time leniency so that I may tend to them now, and place a BAN upon myself for a time.  (to all)Thanks for your consideration, I will be back, and I hope Josh Allen is too(sh*t, I just remembered that is why I originally came ot the site, to see if there were any Josh Allen updates, and apparently I befouled myself through distraction of likely unintentional bait, no relation to "Rick").     JA17 :beer:

 

Andy did you hear about this one?-REM . "I don't think I'm easy to talk about. I've got a very irregular head. And I'm not anything that you think I am anyway". -Syd Barrett, founder of Pink Floyd. Rolling Stone, December 1971.  https://nativeamericanchurches.org/ My Adopt A Bill is Stefon Diggs  My 2nd Adopt A Bill is Christian Wade(he gets an exemption and doesn't require a spot) :)    Being staff seemed unable to train an elite legend how to run, Cole Beasley is my backup.   (I doubt that explanation is wanted).

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44 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said:

lmao - yeah i’m sure you’ll tell us you told us so while linking a FansOfRussiaAndPutin.news article 

Since you can predict the future based on past behavior, when have I in the past posted information from a Russian or pro Russian website? Come now, you insist I have.  So has ICWeiner so it should be easy for you to back that up.  I'm waiting.  I won't be holding my breath but I am waiting.  Can you? Or is this just another baseless allegation? So come on lad, show me.  Show me any thread I have made since Feb on this war where I have posted any right wing news source or Russian news source.  Lets see it.  If you are going to accuse me of being a Russian bot, or posting right wing stuff, or posting what you say I am, then it should be fairly easy to show me where I have posted Russian or right wing news sources.  Who knows, you might be able to hang me by my own petard if you wanted.  It could be fun for you to do that.  YOu'd shut me up.  

By the way, when you call someone stupid because you choose to be an ignorant cunt that is dunning krueger.  Second, someone disagreeing with you does not mean they are stupid, hell I question your intelligence and your sanity because most of the shit you post about Russia is boiler plate material we have seen war after war ad nauseum.  Only one who is intentionally stupid, mentally ill, or just fucking gullible would keep buying the soundbytes and insist that this time its different.

You strike me as the sort of person who responds not only to the 419 advance fee scam, but also the recovery scam.  Do you ever get tired of being played like a fool?  I can understand you being angry at Shiva and I because we've seen this scam before.  We know how this scam works, we are trying to keep you from being scammed.  

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21 minutes ago, jc856 said:

Maybe you’re right, idk.

I’ll check the internet to see if any Judo Federation board members have died from polonium.

 

 

I have a tough time keeping all of the conspiracy theories propped up by the oligarch media straight.  Is this another example of a real one, where Russia inexplicably leaves their fingerprints all over, and fails at, that silly Americans actually latch onto(similar to Assad deciding to gas kurds the very day UN inspectors are visiting?).

If Putin is to be as feared as some want him to be, it would make sense he would not engage in rookie mistakes that some keep trying to attach to him.  You can not have it both ways, and would have to pick one or the other, at least in my opinion(feel free to disagree.....message to all, not just jc whom I am merely employing as a medium at this moment).

Andy did you hear about this one?-REM . "I don't think I'm easy to talk about. I've got a very irregular head. And I'm not anything that you think I am anyway". -Syd Barrett, founder of Pink Floyd. Rolling Stone, December 1971.  https://nativeamericanchurches.org/ My Adopt A Bill is Stefon Diggs  My 2nd Adopt A Bill is Christian Wade(he gets an exemption and doesn't require a spot) :)    Being staff seemed unable to train an elite legend how to run, Cole Beasley is my backup.   (I doubt that explanation is wanted).

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37 minutes ago, shiva2999 said:

I doubt very much that Putin cares about his Judo accreditation.

Its sort of like those who dismiss Scott Ritter or Julian Assange because of the smear campaigns launched against them.  So, someone was stripped of a credential.  That should not be a reason to question the veracity of their words.  Scott Ritter's Scorpion King and histories of our wars in Iran and Iraq are must reads.  Assange's Wikileaks has exposed fraud, corruption, and war crimes from Washington to London to Moscow to Beijing.  Again, they didn't put Scott Ritter in prison because they entraped him, they imprisoned him because he called bullshit on the war in Iraq.  They don't want to bring Assange here and kill him because he was accused of rape.  They want him dead because his websites have fully exposed some pretty nasty shit we did in Afghanistan and Iraq.  Keep in mind that nothing on Wikileaks has ever been rebuffed or found to be anything other than the truth.  

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6 minutes ago, StraightJ said:

I have a tough time keeping all of the conspiracy theories propped up by the oligarch media straight.  Is this another example of a real one, where Russia inexplicably leaves their fingerprints all over, and fails at, that silly Americans actually latch onto(similar to Assad deciding to gas kurds the very day UN inspectors are visiting?).

If Putin is to be as feared as some want him to be, it would make sense he would not engage in rookie mistakes that some keep trying to attach to him.  You can not have it both ways, and would have to pick one or the other, at least in my opinion(feel free to disagree.....message to all, not just jc whom I am merely employing as a medium at this moment).

When you link to my post, why can’t I see what you’re responding to? It’s blank.

                                                                                                          Sincerely, Dunning J. Kruger 

 

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29 minutes ago, jc856 said:

Maybe you’re right, idk.

I’ll check the internet to see if any Judo Federation board members have died from polonium.

 

 

Remember when Biden boasted something along the lines of he wish I could have given Trump a beatdown back in the day?  If my sportsbook had it on the board, I'd take action on Putin taking both at the same time, whether they have stripped him of his titles or not.  I don't think what is done on paper can remove the what the 8th dan he was awarded with a decade ago instilled in real life.  Of course that is my opinion, and others are free to disagree.  Yes, he may have been fast-tracked to some extent, but I do not believe his judo skills to be fraudulent as some in your western culture seem to imply.  You could add a third person in at the same time, maybe Barney Frank would be the hero some choose, and I would still take sizeable book action on Putin.

Andy did you hear about this one?-REM . "I don't think I'm easy to talk about. I've got a very irregular head. And I'm not anything that you think I am anyway". -Syd Barrett, founder of Pink Floyd. Rolling Stone, December 1971.  https://nativeamericanchurches.org/ My Adopt A Bill is Stefon Diggs  My 2nd Adopt A Bill is Christian Wade(he gets an exemption and doesn't require a spot) :)    Being staff seemed unable to train an elite legend how to run, Cole Beasley is my backup.   (I doubt that explanation is wanted).

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15 minutes ago, jc856 said:

When you link to my post, why can’t I see what you’re responding to? It’s blank.

                                                                                                          Sincerely, Dunning J. Kruger 

 

I am unsure.  Perhaps it is a vast Russian-wing conspiracy.  I can investigate when I return.  Perhaps if the Russo-phobes(anti-American globalists, to be precise) wish to lend me some of their tin foil, I can be more successful in finding the answers.  Today I feel more like the QBs the NFL grants the He-Man powers to than I do on some days.  I actually managed to get some sleep! :)  EDIT: perhaps it is more than sleep, but when I sense, regardless of the arbitrary actors on stage, or the even more arbitrary perceptions of folks reacting to them), that liberty and autonomy are the true targets of those whom constructed the original narrative.

Andy did you hear about this one?-REM . "I don't think I'm easy to talk about. I've got a very irregular head. And I'm not anything that you think I am anyway". -Syd Barrett, founder of Pink Floyd. Rolling Stone, December 1971.  https://nativeamericanchurches.org/ My Adopt A Bill is Stefon Diggs  My 2nd Adopt A Bill is Christian Wade(he gets an exemption and doesn't require a spot) :)    Being staff seemed unable to train an elite legend how to run, Cole Beasley is my backup.   (I doubt that explanation is wanted).

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28 minutes ago, StraightJ said:

I did not mean for you to infer what you apparently did...and am surprised at your level of reaction.  This thread is not about us, after all, and I do not wish to steal the limnelight and suppose I could take better care of my words to be apparently less wanton, and just recalled that the more my little fingers type the more surface attack area I provide.  Also, if you know me, you realize I am generally not attempting personal slights at anyone, much less someone whom I have grown to respect for various things, and that I reference people playing the conditioned roles that in my sometimes less than humble opinion was brilliantly illustrated by the allegory of "Agent Smith" in the original Matrix film by the  Wachowski brothers/sisters(if memory served me better, I'd make mention of the old school song that4 just popped into my head that seemed to have the exlamation "Brothers and sisters!!!" in it), where folks are merely fulfilling a "next man up" in prefrabricated roles for whomever is present at the time.  That tis how I recognize various things as happening, in what a consider a rather brilliant use of lateral control mechanism by the oligarchs who are underdogs in terms of numbers, yet  provide us examples of how to overcome such disadvantages which we can choose to be aware of and possibly make use of at some point in our own lives, or not.  It's like with Belichick, I like to be aware of his adept nature rather than denouncing the fellow, yet at the same time do not attribute superpowers to him and engage in the idolatry that HCSM made an emphatic point to draw the line in the sand about, which to me deserves to be noted as an important milsetone of last season, possibly akin to whatever the hell he did at halftime of the Tampa Bay game.

As much as I would like to participate in this further and recover from whatever self-injurious damage I may have caused, there are some thing in real life that I am on a deadline to address that could incur much more tangible losses to me if I give preference to making up for my apparent mistakes here, rather than addressing them quire soon.  I ask the Range for a bit of time leniency so that I may tend to them now, and place a BAN upon myself for a time.  (to all)Thanks for your consideration, I will be back, and I hope Josh Allen is too(sh*t, I just remembered that is why I originally came ot the site, to see if there were any Josh Allen updates, and apparently I befouled myself through distraction of likely unintentional bait, no relation to "Rick").     JA17 :beer:

 

Kill yourself Nazi 

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24 minutes ago, Herodotus said:

Since you can predict the future based on past behavior, when have I in the past posted information from a Russian or pro Russian website? Come now, you insist I have.  So has ICWeiner so it should be easy for you to back that up.  I'm waiting.  I won't be holding my breath but I am waiting.  Can you? Or is this just another baseless allegation? So come on lad, show me.  Show me any thread I have made since Feb on this war where I have posted any right wing news source or Russian news source.  Lets see it.  If you are going to accuse me of being a Russian bot, or posting right wing stuff, or posting what you say I am, then it should be fairly easy to show me where I have posted Russian or right wing news sources.  Who knows, you might be able to hang me by my own petard if you wanted.  It could be fun for you to do that.  YOu'd shut me up.  

By the way, when you call someone stupid because you choose to be an ignorant cunt that is dunning krueger.  Second, someone disagreeing with you does not mean they are stupid, hell I question your intelligence and your sanity because most of the shit you post about Russia is boiler plate material we have seen war after war ad nauseum.  Only one who is intentionally stupid, mentally ill, or just fucking gullible would keep buying the soundbytes and insist that this time its different.

You strike me as the sort of person who responds not only to the 419 advance fee scam, but also the recovery scam.  Do you ever get tired of being played like a fool?  I can understand you being angry at Shiva and I because we've seen this scam before.  We know how this scam works, we are trying to keep you from being scammed.  

I did not insist you posted information from a Russian website.  I asked you to provide an alternate source from the one I found for the claim, which was in fact from a Russian website.  

You continually refuse to do so.

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17 minutes ago, jc856 said:

When you link to my post, why can’t I see what you’re responding to? It’s blank.

                                                                                                          Sincerely, Dunning J. Kruger 

 

For the same reason he believes in the Kalergi Plan: he's fucking retarded

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24 minutes ago, StraightJ said:

I have a tough time keeping all of the conspiracy theories propped up by the oligarch media straight.  Is this another example of a real one, where Russia inexplicably leaves their fingerprints all over, and fails at, that silly Americans actually latch onto(similar to Assad deciding to gas kurds the very day UN inspectors are visiting?).

If Putin is to be as feared as some want him to be, it would make sense he would not engage in rookie mistakes that some keep trying to attach to him.  You can not have it both ways, and would have to pick one or the other, at least in my opinion(feel free to disagree.....message to all, not just jc whom I am merely employing as a medium at this moment).

Fuck

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13 minutes ago, StraightJ said:

Remember when Biden boasted something along the lines of he wish I could have given Trump a beatdown back in the day?  If my sportsbook had it on the board, I'd take action on Putin taking both at the same time, whether they have stripped him of his titles or not.  I don't think what is done on paper can remove the what the 8th dan he was awarded with a decade ago instilled in real life.  Of course that is my opinion, and others are free to disagree.  Yes, he may have been fast-tracked to some extent, but I do not believe his judo skills to be fraudulent as some in your western culture seem to imply.  You could add a third person in at the same time, maybe Barney Frank would be the hero some choose, and I would still take sizeable book action on Putin.

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12 minutes ago, StraightJ said:

I am unsure.  Perhaps it is a vast Russian-wing conspiracy.  I can investigate when I return.  Perhaps if the Russo-phobes(anti-American globalists, to be precise) wish to lend me some of their tin foil, I can be more successful in finding the answers.  Today I feel more like the QBs the NFL grants the He-Man powers to than I do on some days.  I actually managed to get some sleep! :)  EDIT: perhaps it is more than sleep, but when I sense, regardless of the arbitrary actors on stage, or the even more arbitrary perceptions of folks reacting to them), that liberty and autonomy are the true targets of those whom constructed the original narrative.

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15 minutes ago, StraightJ said:

Remember when Biden boasted something along the lines of he wish I could have given Trump a beatdown back in the day?  If my sportsbook had it on the board, I'd take action on Putin taking both at the same time, whether they have stripped him of his titles or not.  I don't think what is done on paper can remove the what the 8th dan he was awarded with a decade ago instilled in real life.  Of course that is my opinion, and others are free to disagree.  Yes, he may have been fast-tracked to some extent, but I do not believe his judo skills to be fraudulent as some in your western culture seem to imply.  You could add a third person in at the same time, maybe Barney Frank would be the hero some choose, and I would still take sizeable book action on Putin.

I’m not knocking him too much for his skills, I’ve seen video of him.

FUN FACT: a person on the receiving end of a technique, is called a “uke”.

 

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