f8ta1ity54 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, RichJ said: You're the idiot who askd me when socialists almost ruined their economy. I gave you the facts. So the country that a socialist like you wants America to be a country like Sweden which isnt a socilist nation. Its a capitalist country. LOL. A socialist didnt pick N. Korea or Cuba. LOL You are missing the point. "Socialists" didn't control Sweden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Just now, TonyasTaters said: Not true regarding blacks committing more crime. https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/revcoa18.pdf disproportionately they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said: blacks commit more crime, but they are also disproportionately living in poverty. So you either have to believe that blacks inherently commit more crime, or you believe the science which says that the rate of poverty and proximity to wealth inequality are some of the biggest predictors of crime in a community. Which do you believe? I agree with a lot of that, but I don’t think we can call cops racist (some are) just because the crimes committed and deaths by cops are equal to each other. It seems consistent. But no I don’t think that anyone is inherently violent. I think a lot of it starts at home though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Angry Byrds said: I agree with a lot of that, but I don’t think we can call cops racist (some are) just because the crimes committed and deaths by cops are equal to each other. It seems consistent. But no I don’t think that anyone is inherently violent. I think a lot of it starts at home though. Why are blacks more likely to be killed by police for committing the same crimes as whites? If race isn't the factor, why are Latinos more likely to be killed by police than whites? To me it appears you as though you are bending over backwards to make excuses for systemic racism and racists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 21 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said: You are missing the point. "Socialists" didn't control Sweden. lol. MKay. Etiher way, you didnt pick a soicialist nation even thoug you are one. LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said: Why are blacks more likely to be killed by police for committing the same crimes as whites? If race isn't the factor, why are Latinos more likely to be killed by police than whites? To me it appears you as though you are bending over backwards to make excuses for systemic racism and racists. They aren’t, more whites are killed per year for committing the same crime. Just because there’s lower percentage of people committing the same amount of crimes or more doesn’t mean there should be a difference in deaths for committing those crimes. Deaths by cops are based on crimes committed not by race. How is that bending over backwards. Are you saying that if blacks committed 0 crimes there would still be more blacks killed by cops? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said: Why are blacks more likely to be killed by police for committing the same crimes as whites? If race isn't the factor, why are Latinos more likely to be killed by police than whites? To me it appears you as though you are bending over backwards to make excuses for systemic racism and racists. Blacks committ more crimes than whites. FACT. They even kill more blacks than whites/asians and latinos combined. FACT. Stop pretending to care. We all know you're just trying to score political points when we all know you're a racist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, HipKat said: That’s weird how those could be mine when I’ve never been a Democrat and I’ve voted Republican way more times than I voted Democrat. Not to mention that outside of anything to do with Donald Trump, my stances are pretty much aligned with conservatives. In most things, anyway Especially bigotry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 minute ago, ICRockets2 said: Especially bigotry Ouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 More than 1 million voters switch to GOP, raising alarm for Democrats https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/more-than-1-million-voters-switch-to-gop-raising-alarm-for-democrats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 30 minutes ago, TonyasTaters said: Not true regarding blacks committing more crime. https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/revcoa18.pdf So about even like I said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, RichJ said: More than 1 million voters switch to GOP, raising alarm for Democrats https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/more-than-1-million-voters-switch-to-gop-raising-alarm-for-democrats Is this scholarly? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, f8ta1ity54 said: Why are blacks more likely to be killed by police for committing the same crimes as whites? If race isn't the factor, why are Latinos more likely to be killed by police than whites? To me it appears you as though you are bending over backwards to make excuses for systemic racism and racists. Where’d you go? I want to finish this. Because you will leave it alone for a few days and then come back with the same argument like never discussed it before 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Angry Byrds said: They aren’t, more whites are killed per year for committing the same crime. There are more white people. thats how numbers work. 1 hour ago, Angry Byrds said: Just because there’s lower percentage of people committing the same amount of crimes or more doesn’t mean there should be a difference in deaths for committing those crimes. we are looking at deaths per police interactions. So no matter what the total amount of crimes are, black people are more likely to be killed by police disproportionately. 1 hour ago, Angry Byrds said: Deaths by cops are based on crimes committed not by race. How is that bending over backwards. the stats are based on interactions with police. Which as it turns out for black people, it doesn't matter if you committed a crime. You are on the defensive for racists or racist power structures, thats bending over backwards in my opinion. 1 hour ago, Angry Byrds said: Are you saying that if blacks committed 0 crimes there would still be more blacks killed by cops? Yes. Elijah McClain is a perfect example. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 30 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said: There are more white people. thats how numbers work. we are looking at deaths per police interactions. So no matter what the total amount of crimes are, black people are more likely to be killed by police disproportionately. the stats are based on interactions with police. Which as it turns out for black people, it doesn't matter if you committed a crime. You are on the defensive for racists or racist power structures, thats bending over backwards in my opinion. Yes. Elijah McClain is a perfect example. 31 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said: There are more white people. thats how numbers work. we are looking at deaths per police interactions. So no matter what the total amount of crimes are, black people are more likely to be killed by police disproportionately. the stats are based on interactions with police. Which as it turns out for black people, it doesn't matter if you committed a crime. You are on the defensive for racists or racist power structures, thats bending over backwards in my opinion. Yes. Elijah McClain is a perfect example. It’s not though, you are making up stats. If 100 whites are killed for a crime and 100 blacks are killed for a crime it doesn’t matter the percentage of there are of each race, it’s about the percentage of the crimes they are committing. This is really simple. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toofast80 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 For all the people that don’t/can’t seem to understand that the U.S. IS NOT A DEMOCRACY! It’s Constitutional Republic NOT a Democratic Republic! TT you are a fucking terrorist, stay your ignorant ass in Canada, and stay out of our business. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, f8ta1ity54 said: There are more white people. thats how numbers work. we are looking at deaths per police interactions. So no matter what the total amount of crimes are, black people are more likely to be killed by police disproportionately. the stats are based on interactions with police. Which as it turns out for black people, it doesn't matter if you committed a crime. You are on the defensive for racists or racist power structures, thats bending over backwards in my opinion. Yes. Elijah McClain is a perfect example. It seems to me what you are saying is even though there are a higher percentage of or around the same crimes committed by a race that has a lower percentage then the death rate by police should a lot lower that that of the other race because there’s more of them. Even though the crime rate is the same? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly'sFinest Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said: It’s not though, you are making up stats. If 100 whites are killed for a crime and 100 blacks are killed for a crime it doesn’t matter the percentage of there are of each race, it’s about the percentage of the crimes they are committing. This is really simple. Mouth breathers can't be bothered to understand such things 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 17 minutes ago, Philly'sFinest said: Mouth breathers can't be bothered to understand such things It seems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyasTaters Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share Posted October 24, 2022 Lmao more racism. The most dangerous states are red states. Gun violence in those red states are out of control. Here in NY we are safe. Some of the safest states are blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 14 minutes ago, TonyasTaters said: Lmao more racism. The most dangerous states are red states. Gun violence in those red states are out of control. Here in NY we are safe. Some of the safest states are blue. I don’t think you get to choose who’s racist and who is not. They’re blacks who agree. What are you calling them? Don’t be a tool. im sure it’s republicans dealing drugs and shooting places up lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 39 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said: It seems to me what you are saying is even though there are a higher percentage of or around the same crimes committed by a race that has a lower percentage then the death rate by police should a lot lower that that of the other race because there’s more of them. Even though the crime rate is the same? Try again. this doesn't make sense. I said exactly what I mean. What are you disputing? 1. Blacks make up a smaller population than whites. 2. Blacks commit crime disproportionately more crime than whites. 3. Blacks are killed by police at a disproportionately higher rate than whites. Do you not understand what a proportions are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said: Try again. this doesn't make sense. I said exactly what I mean. What are you disputing? 1. Blacks make up a smaller population than whites. 2. Blacks commit crime disproportionately more crime than whites. 3. Blacks are killed by police at a disproportionately higher rate than whites. Do you not understand what a proportions are? I can’t make it any easier for you to understand, apparently. You are stuck in your vacuum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 54 minutes ago, Toofast80 said: For all the people that don’t/can’t seem to understand that the U.S. IS NOT A DEMOCRACY! It’s Constitutional Republic NOT a Democratic Republic! TT you are a fucking terrorist, stay your ignorant ass in Canada, and stay out of our business. Hey how do elections work in constitutional republics? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Just now, Angry Byrds said: I can’t make it any easier for you to understand, apparently. You are stuck in your vacuum How many times do I have to say what I mean? You are going on these long winded questions that make no sense. That's on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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