Who would vote for the Republican Party who tried to destroy our democracy. Traitors to the country that’s who.

[Greg]

3 minutes ago, TonyasTaters said:

Better than many read states… I provide data and you just give one liners. That should give you pause.

Then how come people are leaving "well run" places like NY and CA and moving to Texas and Florida. DeSantis/Abbott in 2024. 

[Angry Byrds]

5 minutes ago, TonyasTaters said:

Better than many read states… I provide data and you just give one liners. That should give you pause.

You didn’t give any data. And no NYC is not better than Miami lol

[Angry Byrds]

3 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

Which country would you like the US to most resemble? 

None!! That’s what makes this country great.

[f8ta1ity54]

Just now, Angry Byrds said:

I wouldn’t model off of any other country. It’s a dumb question. You want it to look like Portland I would rather have FL.

Give me a country that has all the things you want to have in this country, and lets see how they are doing?

So it would be a country with a very small government, tight immigration policy, intertwines government and religion, has week minority protections, anti-abortion, low taxes on the wealthy, and what else? Which country is close to that?

[RichJ]

6 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

I prefer norway or sweden.

You want <2% blacks and Sweden has officially ended the practice of prescribing puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones for minors under age 18. 

[Angry Byrds]

2 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

Give me a country that has all the things you want to have in this country, and lets see how they are doing?

So it would be a country with a very small government, tight immigration policy, intertwines government and religion, has week minority protections, anti-abortion, low taxes on the wealthy, and what else? Which country is close to that?

Week minority protections? Is it weekly or biweekly? I forget 

Weak protection for minorities? You aren’t even aloud to arrest one now.

[f8ta1ity54]

Just now, RichJ said:

You want <2% blacks and Sweden has officially ended the practice of prescribing puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones for minors under age 18. 

Why would you think that because I want US economic policies to resemble that of sweden, that I want less black people?

Are you really that stupid?

Just because Sweden has changed one policy doesn't mean I agree with it. Its still better than the US in terms of healthcare overall.

Again, are you really that stupid?

[f8ta1ity54]

3 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said:

Week minority protections? Is it weekly or biweekly? I forget 

Weak protection for minorities? You aren’t even aloud to arrest one now.

ooo...got me on a typo.

Really? is that because the police are so quick to execute them in the street?

[f8ta1ity54]

9 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

Give me a country that has all the things you want to have in this country, and lets see how they are doing?

So it would be a country with a very small government, tight immigration policy, intertwines government and religion, has week minority protections, anti-abortion, low taxes on the wealthy, and what else? Which country is close to that?

 

4 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said:

 

So which country has all those things you want?

[RichJ]

1 minute ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

Why would you think that because I want US economic policies to resemble that of sweden, that I want less black people?

Are you really that stupid?

Just because Sweden has changed one policy doesn't mean I agree with it. Its still better than the US in terms of healthcare overall.

Again, are you really that stupid?

That was a jab at your being a racist. Only an idiot cant undestand that America cant be like Sweden based on population size and demographics alone . Plus thise 2 counties you have don't have as much democrats ruining their nation 

[f8ta1ity54]

1 minute ago, RichJ said:

That was a jab at your being a racist.

No wonder it fell flat, because I'm not a racist.

1 minute ago, RichJ said:

Only an idiot cant undestand that America cant be like Sweden based on population size and demographics alone .

Why would the amount of people/demographics in the US make single payer impossible?

Are you familiar with insurance? The larger the risk pool the more predictable spending will be per person. That means having more people in the risk pool makes it more financially viable.

Not to mention that what the argument you are making is mathematically and logically untrue. 

1 minute ago, RichJ said:

Plus thise 2 counties you have don't have as much democrats ruining their nation 

They have more left leaning people, that's for sure. Remember, I'm not a democrat. 

[TonyasTaters]

29 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said:

You didn’t give any data. And no NYC is not better than Miami lol

You can’t click on links? Then I can’t help you and that explains your ignorance on the subject. Have you seen Jacksonville FL? Or how about Houston Texas? They look worse than NYC.

[f8ta1ity54]

8 minutes ago, TonyasTaters said:

You can’t click on links? Then I can’t help you and that explains your ignorance on the subject. Have you seen Jacksonville FL? Or how about Houston Texas? They look worse than NYC.

there has been an uptick in crime recently but overall it has been trending down for decades. 

Are we really surprised to see an increase in crime when we have low wages, high cost of living, inflation and lack of resources due to the pandemic?

Its weird how conservative media leaves out these facts and go straight to the immigration of brown people and the degradation of society by the gays. Its almost like they are just racist and bigoted.  

[RichJ]

24 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

No wonder it fell flat, because I'm not a racist.

Why would the amount of people/demographics in the US make single payer impossible?

Are you familiar with insurance? The larger the risk pool the more predictable spending will be per person. That means having more people in the risk pool makes it more financially viable.

Not to mention that what the argument you are making is mathematically and logically untrue. 

They have more left leaning people, that's for sure. Remember, I'm not a democrat. 

Blah blah. 

Here's t he thing, you want America to be like those nations yet you are a socialist which they are not. They have social programs fueled and ran by free market economy . Socialists almost ruined Swedens economy . 

[f8ta1ity54]

Just now, RichJ said:

Blah blah. 

So you concede the point on single payer healthcare? great, because all you had was a fallacious argument. 

Just now, RichJ said:

Here's t he thing, you want America to be like thise nations yet you are a socialist which they are not.

Because only a moron would think that you could turn the most powerful capitalist country to ever exist into a socialist country over night. Baby steps. Capitalism with guard rails so you have to be homeless or without medical care sounds pretty reasonable to a reasonable person.

Just now, RichJ said:

They have social programs fueled and ran by free market economy . Socialists almost ruined Swedens economy . 

When, how so?

[Angry Byrds]

1 hour ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

ooo...got me on a typo.

Really? is that because the police are so quick to execute them in the street?

I’m pretty sure that I read that there are more whites killed each year by police than any other race. I was kidding about the typo. I’m the king of typos.

[RichJ]

4 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

So you concede the point on single payer healthcare? great, because all you had was a fallacious argument. 

Because only a moron would think that you could turn the most powerful capitalist country to ever exist into a socialist country over night. Baby steps. Capitalism with guard rails so you have to be homeless or without medical care sounds pretty reasonable to a reasonable person.

When, how so?

Sigh. 

 

 

[f8ta1ity54]

1 minute ago, RichJ said:

Sigh. 

 

 

I dont have time to watch an hour long video. Why dont you put it into your own words?

[RichJ]

Just now, f8ta1ity54 said:

I dont have time to watch an hour long video. Why dont you put it into your own words?

Here's your education . You hate facts anyways. 

 

Norberg also gave students a lesson in Swedish history and explained how, despite being used as an example of socialism’s success, Sweden has embraced capitalism since the 1980s, and is often portrayed incorrectly by democratic socialists in America.

Norberg pointed out that Sweden’s experiment with socialism in the 1980s almost destroyed the once prosperous nation. Detailing the rise, fall and rebirth of the Swedish model, Norberg explained that as its growth rate increased between 1870 and 1970, Sweden went from being one of Europe’s poorest countries to the 4th richest country in the world.

https://tfas.org/news/should-america-be-more-like-sweden-johan-norberg-shares-lessons-from-sweden-during-virtual-guest-lecture/?kw=&mt=&loc=9005678&n=g&d=m&adp=&cid=8628897560&adgid=87635080460&tid=dsa-19959388920&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5M7J_5n5-gIVS-TICh1wWwQtEAAYASAAEgIhsfD_BwE

[Angry Byrds]

1 hour ago, TonyasTaters said:

You can’t click on links? Then I can’t help you and that explains your ignorance on the subject. Have you seen Jacksonville FL? Or how about Houston Texas? They look worse than NYC.

Yeah, I’ve seen Jacksonville I’m there all the time and no it does not look worse than NYC lol

[RichJ]

 

In the 1960s, Sweden started to redistribute wealth, which brought wealth creation to a halt. By the mid-1990s, the country had growing economic problems because it continued to redistribute wealth it wasn’t creating. It was at this juncture that many of the wealthy (ABBA band members included) and entrepreneurs were leaving Sweden. In 1994, Sweden began implementing the following measures designed to reverse this trend:

• Reduce Regulation
• Reduce Government Spending
• Reform their Welfare Programs
• Shrink their Government

 

 

 

 

In Sweden, the government tries to price healthcare at near zero, so demand is unlimited. However, resources are limited, resulting in rationed healthcare. Long waiting lines are the norm. Stories abound of people with an illness such as brain cancer being told they will need to wait for treatment until they have equipment and doctors ready for them.

Like Canadians, many will go to other countries to get timely treatment. Economist Andreas Bergh explains that Swedes are healthy not because of the health care system but because they eat healthy foods and are physically active

 

 

Taxes and Immigration

One aspect of taxes in Sweden that is not well known is that while taxes are high on labor, they are relatively low for corporations (22 percent) and capital. Keeping taxes low keeps corporations and capital from going to other countries. The 1994 changes in government deregulated everything from taxis, air service, railroads, electricity, telecom, and school choice.

 

 

 

https://fee.org/articles/is-sweden-socialist-no-but/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIzPytx6H5-gIVC_bjBx1qywQEEAAYASAAEgL0q_D_BwE

 

[f8ta1ity54]

32 minutes ago, RichJ said:

Here's your education . You hate facts anyways. 

 

Norberg also gave students a lesson in Swedish history and explained how, despite being used as an example of socialism’s success, Sweden has embraced capitalism since the 1980s, and is often portrayed incorrectly by democratic socialists in America.

Norberg pointed out that Sweden’s experiment with socialism in the 1980s almost destroyed the once prosperous nation. Detailing the rise, fall and rebirth of the Swedish model, Norberg explained that as its growth rate increased between 1870 and 1970, Sweden went from being one of Europe’s poorest countries to the 4th richest country in the world.

https://tfas.org/news/should-america-be-more-like-sweden-johan-norberg-shares-lessons-from-sweden-during-virtual-guest-lecture/?kw=&mt=&loc=9005678&n=g&d=m&adp=&cid=8628897560&adgid=87635080460&tid=dsa-19959388920&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5M7J_5n5-gIVS-TICh1wWwQtEAAYASAAEgIhsfD_BwE

So far all you have done is cite right wing think tanks in washington. Use your own words.

[RichJ]

Just now, f8ta1ity54 said:

So far all you have done is cite right wing think tanks in washington. Use your own words.

lol.  Thats how you run away from facts. 

Thoughts so.  Thats ok. Even Bernie was clueless and got schooled by facts. as well. 

[HipKat]

3 hours ago, Greg said:

Yeah,no shit!

[f8ta1ity54]

1 minute ago, RichJ said:

lol.  Thats how you run away from facts. 

Thoughts so.  Thats ok. Even Bernie was clueless and got schooled by facts. as well. 

None of the links you provided are scholarly sources.