ICRockets2 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, HipKat said: Hey fuckface, if she is worth a 6-figure income, what is a Structural Engineer worth? A Brain Surgeon? A Cancer researcher? Or do you equate poison fast food delivery with saving lives and building the world? Let's say she makes $120k a year and they make $500k a year. That work for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Very Wide Right Posted October 30, 2022 Author Share Posted October 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: Let's say she makes $120k a year and they make $500k a year. That work for you? You're making a fool of yourself........AGAIN. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 hour ago, ICRockets2 said: Let's say she makes $120k a year and they make $500k a year. That work for you? Sure as long as I Can make 200K a year, but meanwhile, back in the real world where those pay scales have to actually come from somewhere, unlike in your fairy world where money is plentiful and available to every good boy and girl!! 1 Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 42 minutes ago, HipKat said: Sure as long as I Can make 200K a year, but meanwhile, back in the real world where those pay scales have to actually come from somewhere, unlike in your fairy world where money is plentiful and available to every good boy and girl!! dawg money is fake and our government can literally print infinity of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 2 hours ago, ICRockets2 said: dawg money is fake and our government can literally print infinity of it Cool, I'll let my bank know when I don't send the mortgage in to just get it form the Monopoly-Government.... Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc856 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 8 hours ago, ICRockets2 said: She sounds extraordinary. I would prefer we live in a world where KFC doesn't make billions in corporate profits while she languishes at or near minimum wage. Your employees make 80k a year, right? Do you think this woman comes anywhere close? Of course she doesn't. That's a travesty in my book. This woman is putting in a 6-figure-worthy effort and she's doing it for breadcrumbs. I’ll come out of retirement and sweep floors for 100K, sign me up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 10 minutes ago, jc856 said: I’ll come out of retirement and sweep floors for 100K, sign me up. He forgot that is she makes 100K, that 2pc Meal just went up in price to about $215.00 Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc856 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, HipKat said: He forgot that is she makes 100K, that 2pc Meal just went up in price to about $215.00 Do you see any way that we can get from the way things are now, to the utopian ideal of income equality for all? I can’t think of any way to get from here to there that didn’t involve almost total annihilating the human race Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 There may come a time when fast food workers make $100K just to keep up with inflation. I dread the day when I have to drive through Wendy's to pick up my $2,500 Biggy Bag. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 3 hours ago, jc856 said: Do you see any way that we can get from the way things are now, to the utopian ideal of income equality for all? I can’t think of any way to get from here to there that didn’t involve almost total annihilating the human race Nobody wants everybody to make the exact same salary across all industries. What we want is for no man, woman, or child to go hungry, live homeless, or find themselves unable to see a doctor. Especially when there are people with more wealth than they could spend in 50 lifetimes. This can be done a number of ways. Wealth taxes, estate taxes, a near-100% tax rate over...let's say $100M/yr. But the thing I want most is worker co-ops. If workers control the means of production, income inequality is DRASTICALLY reduced. It is entirely possible this cannot happen without the near total annihilation of the human race, but that would be because capitalists would rather burn civilization to the ground than give more power to workers. If that's how they'd play it, then it's even more imperative the bourgeoisie lose their grasp on the levers of power. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 5 hours ago, HipKat said: He forgot that is she makes 100K, that 2pc Meal just went up in price to about $215.00 I want to be very clear about what you're saying here. We're talking about a woman who has clearly had a stroke working manual labor. That woman is an American Hero. If you don't believe she deserves to live comfortably then you don't actually believe hard work has anything to do with one's moral desert. And here you are asserting that if Yum! were compelled to facilitate that comfortable life, they'd brazenly attempt to pass off the additional expenses to the consumer rather than take the hit to their corporate profits? That sounds like the behavior of an organization whose moral compass I am, shall we say...disinclined to respect. I can understand the fear from which the argument is made, but "we have to let the powerful bad people mistreat the rest of us or else they'll make our lives worse" just isn't going to convince me to stop fighting for what I believe is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 14 hours ago, jc856 said: Do you see any way that we can get from the way things are now, to the utopian ideal of income equality for all? I can’t think of any way to get from here to there that didn’t involve almost total annihilating the human race Of course not. That’s impossible. There’s no way we could have income equality. But, the money at the top could be better served than just languishing in bank accounts earning massive amounts of interest or hiding in offshore accounts, untouchable by the IRS. I think I read somewhere that $1 billion earns over $1000 a minute in interest. Maybe those numbers aren’t correct but the correct numbers are just as shocking. 1 Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 10 hours ago, ICRockets2 said: I want to be very clear about what you're saying here. We're talking about a woman who has clearly had a stroke working manual labor. That woman is an American Hero. If you don't believe she deserves to live comfortably then you don't actually believe hard work has anything to do with one's moral desert. And here you are asserting that if Yum! were compelled to facilitate that comfortable life, they'd brazenly attempt to pass off the additional expenses to the consumer rather than take the hit to their corporate profits? That sounds like the behavior of an organization whose moral compass I am, shall we say...disinclined to respect. I can understand the fear from which the argument is made, but "we have to let the powerful bad people mistreat the rest of us or else they'll make our lives worse" just isn't going to convince me to stop fighting for what I believe is right. See you have reading comprehension issues. I specifically said that because of her inability to earn a living wage, she would qualify for the social net that would help provide for her and her family. that is a big difference from somebody who collects welfare, who is fully capable of working, but chooses not to. Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 30 minutes ago, HipKat said: See you have reading comprehension issues. I specifically said that because of her inability to earn a living wage, she would qualify for the social net that would help provide for her and her family. that is a big difference from somebody who collects welfare, who is fully capable of working, but chooses not to. But she doesn't qualify. That's the problem. The threshold for qualifying for government assistance is WAY lower than a living wage. In order to qualify, she'd have to quit her job, and then you'd tell her she's a useless eater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 On 10/31/2022 at 12:40 PM, ICRockets2 said: But she doesn't qualify. That's the problem. The threshold for qualifying for government assistance is WAY lower than a living wage. In order to qualify, she'd have to quit her job, and then you'd tell her she's a useless eater. Hey I wonder if avoiding having to respond to this had anything to do with why Hip suddenly put me on ignore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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