Jesus Christ, those Russians again

[Herodotus]

Fucking Russian secret police arresting and disappearing journalists without charge.  

 

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/fbi-raid-abc-news_producer-1234613619/

Oh wait, sorry this is a story about an American journalist taken into custody on orders of Biden for questioning the war.  Its all good though, he doesn't like duh freedumbs and should be canceled.  

[ICRockets2]

11 hours ago, Herodotus said:

this is a story about an American journalist taken into custody on orders of Biden for questioning the war. 

No it isn't.  It's a story about an American journalist who had his home raided and searched by the FBI and who hasn't been seen in the neighborhood since.  It does not allege that he was taken into custody, and it does not allege that if he were it would have been for questioning the war.  You're unabashedly lying and hoping nobody reads the article to call it out.

[shiva2999]

40 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said:

No it isn't.  It's a story about an American journalist who had his home raided and searched by the FBI and who hasn't been seen in the neighborhood since.  It does not allege that he was taken into custody, and it does not allege that if he were it would have been for questioning the war.  You're unabashedly lying and hoping nobody reads the article to call it out.

So, where is this guy and why has he (been) disappeared?

[ICRockets2]

43 minutes ago, shiva2999 said:

So, where is this guy and why has he (been) disappeared?

How the fuck should I know?  

[shiva2999]

1 minute ago, ICRockets2 said:

How the fuck should I know?  

So then, what is Gibby lying about?

FBI raids house.

Guy disappears.

Not like it happens every day.

[ICRockets2]

13 minutes ago, shiva2999 said:

So then, what is Gibby lying about?

FBI raids house.

Guy disappears.

Not like it happens every day.

I said exactly what he's lying about, are you illiterate?

[micknaboz]

For our two Putin  ball lickers here.  

[shiva2999]

9 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said:

I said exactly what he's lying about, are you illiterate?

You're gonna resort to quibbling now?

The obvious implication in the story is the raid and the disappearance are connected, it's only stated that way for legal reasons.

Your accusation is unwarranted and an obvious attempt to change the subject from the story to gibby's style.

[ICRockets2]

4 minutes ago, shiva2999 said:

You're gonna resort to quibbling now?

The obvious implication in the story is the raid and the disappearance are connected, it's only stated that way for legal reasons.

Your accusation is unwarranted and an obvious attempt to change the subject from the story to gibby's style.

Motte and Bailey, you piece of shit.

Nobody denies that the raid and disappearance are connected, but Gibby went beyond that to say things that are demonstrably untrue about the article.  It doesn't say it's connected to Ukraine, and it doesn't say he was taken into custody.  

[shiva2999]

24 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said:

Motte and Bailey, you piece of shit.

Nobody denies that the raid and disappearance are connected, but Gibby went beyond that to say things that are demonstrably untrue about the article.  It doesn't say it's connected to Ukraine, and it doesn't say he was taken into custody.  

Again, you're nit picking merely to be argumentative.

The fact is you don't know why he's disappeared, you don't know he wasn't taken into custody and you don't know it's not connected to Ukraine.

[ICRockets2]

8 minutes ago, shiva2999 said:

Again, you're nit picking merely to be argumentative.

The fact is you don't know why he's disappeared, you don't know he wasn't taken into custody and you don't know it's not connected to Ukraine.

And I haven't asserted that I know why he's disappeared, I haven't asserted he wasn't taken into custody, and I haven't asserted it isn't connected to Ukraine.  It is perfectly reasonable for me to hold others to the same standard. 

[Herodotus]

1 hour ago, micknaboz said:

For our two Putin  ball lickers here.  

So you are saying that Ukraine is part of Russia? Or is this about your glee that Biden is getting ever closer to starting a nuclear war just so he can keep the Ukronazi scam going? 

[HipKat]

12 minutes ago, Herodotus said:

So you are saying that Ukraine is part of Russia? Or is this about your glee that Biden is getting ever closer to starting a nuclear war just so he can keep the Ukronazi scam going? 

You are an imbecile. If the US had never sent Ukraine a single dollar or weapon, it WOULD be Russia now, moron. How often do you touch yourself to Putin's poster over your bed??

[shiva2999]

1 hour ago, ICRockets2 said:

And I haven't asserted that I know why he's disappeared, I haven't asserted he wasn't taken into custody, and I haven't asserted it isn't connected to Ukraine.  It is perfectly reasonable for me to hold others to the same standard. 

It doesn't make them liars though.

If the authorities aren't gonna come clean for unstated reasons, it's not unreasonable to speculate.

That's why God gave us imaginations.

[ICRockets2]

1 minute ago, shiva2999 said:

It doesn't make them liars though.

If the authorities aren't gonna come clean for unstated reasons, it's not unreasonable to speculate.

That's why God gave us imaginations.

When you say an article says something it doesn't, you are lying.

[shiva2999]

29 minutes ago, HipKat said:

You are an imbecile. If the US had never sent Ukraine a single dollar or weapon, it WOULD be Russia now, moron. 

 

And Ukraine, Russia and the world would be a better, richer and SAFER place today.

[shiva2999]

3 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said:

When you say an article says something it doesn't, you are lying.

Oh, please.

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[Herodotus]

11 minutes ago, shiva2999 said:

And Ukraine, Russia and the world would be a better, richer and SAFER place today.

ICR buys into the biggest lie, no not Trump's.  The biggest lie, the lie that the world teetering on the brink of nuclear fueled extinction is preferable to a peaceful outcome.  If that does not confirm him as schizowoke I don't know what does.

[ICRockets2]

5 minutes ago, Herodotus said:

ICR buys into the biggest lie, no not Trump's.  The biggest lie, the lie that the world teetering on the brink of nuclear fueled extinction is preferable to a peaceful outcome.  If that does not confirm him as schizowoke I don't know what does.

You don't avert nuclear extinction by letting Russia threaten to nuke people if you stop them from annexing whatever they want.

[Toofast80]

4 hours ago, shiva2999 said:

So then, what is Gibby lying about?

FBI raids house.

Guy disappears.

Not like it happens every day.

“Nothing to see here”, “he wasn’t going to expose some blatant propaganda and lies about this war on terror we’re in”, “he’ll be fine after we initiate and complete his reprogramming”, “it’s for your own good”!

[Herodotus]

2 minutes ago, Toofast80 said:

“Nothing to see here”, “he wasn’t going to expose some blatant propaganda and lies about this war on terror we’re in”, “he’ll be fine after we initiate and complete his reprogramming”, “it’s for your own good”!

buh buh buh the article, America is good, the tv says so. . . .

[Toofast80]

1 hour ago, Herodotus said:

ICR buys into the biggest lie, no not Trump's.  The biggest lie, the lie that the world teetering on the brink of nuclear fueled extinction is preferable to a peaceful outcome.  If that does not confirm him as schizowoke I don't know what does.

I want to like many of your opinions, but you seem to be stuck on Trump and making it known, that’s the past, the Biden/Harris regime is fucking this country/world up right now. They have some very secure places to go if they push this globe into nuclear conflict, do you? I don’t! That’s a helluva de-population event, as they’ve been YELLING for quite some time 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️.

[Herodotus]

18 minutes ago, Toofast80 said:

I want to like many of your opinions, but you seem to be stuck on Trump and making it known, that’s the past, the Biden/Harris regime is fucking this country/world up right now. They have some very secure places to go if they push this globe into nuclear conflict, do you? I don’t! That’s a helluva de-population event, as they’ve been YELLING for quite some time 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️.

Let me write something I want you consider.  These are the presidents we have had in my lifetime

Reagan: Bad.  Broke federal unions, destroyed the middle class, greatly increased the power of the wall street oligarchs.

Bush Sr.: Just as bad as Reagan.  Oh well he did end Cold War One without any nukes flying, but he broke the middle and working class even more

Clinton: Actually worse than Rayguns or Shrub daddy.  Actually fucked up the middle class even more, started the road to the current war with Russia, harmed the poor and vulnerable by oveturning welfare programs, and launched the Clinton revolution where the Dems became right wing authoritariansand the GOP became fascists.

Shrub Jr: His dad without a vaneer of human decency.  Fucked over the middle class, got us into not one but two forever wars.  Destabilized the middle east.  Killed, maimed, and displaced tens of millions.  Worse than Reagan, his dad, and Clinton combined.  Fortunately it can't get worse.  Can it?

Obama: Like Clinton he pretended to care about the middle class, but like Bush and Clinton before him he further escalated the situation that became war with Russia, gave us an utter joke as health care reform, made Wall Street this country's daddy and got us into disastrous wars in Liby an Syria and overthrew several democracies.  Started out hopeful, but ultimately worse than Rayguns, Bush Sr, Clintoon, and Shrub, fortunately, it can't get worse.

Trump: It fucking got worse

Biden: The worst yet.

2024? I hope we are all still alive and can vote.  That would be a miracle at this point.

For the TLDR crowd: Every president since the 1980s has been worse than the president before.  I can take a massive shit on one president without absolving another because they have all been worthless POSUS 

[Toofast80]

4 minutes ago, Herodotus said:

Let me write something I want you consider.  These are the presidents we have had in my lifetime

Reagan: Bad.  Broke federal unions, destroyed the middle class, greatly increased the power of the middle class.

Bush Sr.: Just as bad as Reagan.  Oh well he did end Cold War One without any nukes flying, but he broke the middle and working class even more

Clinton: Actually worse than Rayguns or Shrub daddy.  Actually fucked up the middle class even more, started the road to the current war with Russia, harmed the poor and vulnerable by oveturning welfare programs, and launched the Clinton revolution where the Dems became right wing authoritariansand the GOP became fascists.

Shrub Jr: His dad without a vaneer of human decency.  Fucked over the middle class, got us into not one but two forever wars.  Destabilized the middle east.  Killed, maimed, and displaced tens of millions.  Worse than Reagan, his dad, and Clinton combined.  Fortunately it can't get worse.  Can it?

Obama: Like Clinton he pretended to care about the middle class, but like Bush and Clinton before him he further escalated the situation that became war with Russia, gave us an utter joke as health care reform, made Wall Street this country's daddy and got us into disastrous wars in Liby an Syria and overthrew several democracies.  Started out hopeful, but ultimately worse than Rayguns, Bush Sr, Clintoon, and Shrub, fortunately, it can't get worse.

Trump: It fucking got worse

Biden: The worst yet.

2024? I hope we are all still alive and can vote.  That would be a miracle at this point.

For the TLDR crowd: Every president since the 1980s has been worse than the president before.  I can take a massive shit on one president without absolving another because they have all been worthless POSUS 

And that’s my lifetime as well, and I agree with most of what has been written here. And IMO that’s due to the false notion that the POTUS is “the leader of the free world”, such a bunch of nonsense that is. But many buy into it, and then support it to an end. 

[Toofast80]

10 minutes ago, Herodotus said:

Let me write something I want you consider.  These are the presidents we have had in my lifetime

Reagan: Bad.  Broke federal unions, destroyed the middle class, greatly increased the power of the wall street oligarchs.

Bush Sr.: Just as bad as Reagan.  Oh well he did end Cold War One without any nukes flying, but he broke the middle and working class even more

Clinton: Actually worse than Rayguns or Shrub daddy.  Actually fucked up the middle class even more, started the road to the current war with Russia, harmed the poor and vulnerable by oveturning welfare programs, and launched the Clinton revolution where the Dems became right wing authoritariansand the GOP became fascists.

Shrub Jr: His dad without a vaneer of human decency.  Fucked over the middle class, got us into not one but two forever wars.  Destabilized the middle east.  Killed, maimed, and displaced tens of millions.  Worse than Reagan, his dad, and Clinton combined.  Fortunately it can't get worse.  Can it?

Obama: Like Clinton he pretended to care about the middle class, but like Bush and Clinton before him he further escalated the situation that became war with Russia, gave us an utter joke as health care reform, made Wall Street this country's daddy and got us into disastrous wars in Liby an Syria and overthrew several democracies.  Started out hopeful, but ultimately worse than Rayguns, Bush Sr, Clintoon, and Shrub, fortunately, it can't get worse.

Trump: It fucking got worse

Biden: The worst yet.

2024? I hope we are all still alive and can vote.  That would be a miracle at this point.

For the TLDR crowd: Every president since the 1980s has been worse than the president before.  I can take a massive shit on one president without absolving another because they have all been worthless POSUS 

There is a reason l’ve “wasted” my vote on Libertarians for EVERY election I’ve been “allowed” to partake in. And I’ve taken my share of insults and ignorant shots about my decisions to do so.  That just helped solidify my thoughts that logic and rational discussion about many of these topics will not change “the herd”s minds, they have been inundated with the propaganda and they allowed it to take root😔.