Angry Byrds Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 23 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said: Ok, instead of black and white, let's deal in shades of gray. Which would be worse for the American people, a riot in which property is damaged and people are killed, OR attempting to overthrow the US goverment? Depends in this case number of deaths and damage is worse. Also no chance of government takeover in this case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said: None that I can think of. It’s illegal Lots of things are illegal that shouldn't be. There are towns all over the country that have weird laws, like "you can't put a turkey in your bathtub on Sundays after 6pm" or shit like that. Does that mean that it's morally wrong to put a turkey in your bathtub on Sundays after 6pm in one town, but if you travel 50 miles west it suddenly becomes a morally sanctioned act? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Angry Byrds said: Revolt is an uprising against the government not the people. Riots are burning, looting,killing innocence. Rioting gets nothing accomplished. Rioting gives you Portland LOL. Good luck. The peeps you are arguing with have their own made up language and pronouns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 26 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said: No You just said peaceful protest is never bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 18 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said: Depends in this case number of deaths and damage is worse. Also no chance of government takeover in this case. So if you were to convict someone of property damage and someone else for a failed attempt at the overthrow of the US government, you're charging them the same? Or does one come with a harsher punishment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 31 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said: None that I can think of. It’s illegal So you would never use your second amendment right to protect yourself from the goverment would you? That would be a violent protest. That's illegal. Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herodotus Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 I could see that happening. Honestly, I have some bad news for those wanting a 2016 redux. Trump and Hillary both appear to want to run again, but neither party is probably going to allow it. Wait, there's more. I don't see Trump even needing a pardon. The rich in this country play by their own rules and Trump probably doesn't even see the inside of a court room let alone the inside of a jail. His associates probably do, but he probably won't. I think he plays king maker to DeSatan and we get yet another garbage election in 2024 where no matter who gets the presidency we all still lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 23 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: Lots of things are illegal that shouldn't be. There are towns all over the country that have weird laws, like "you can't put a turkey in your bathtub on Sundays after 6pm" or shit like that. Does that mean that it's morally wrong to put a turkey in your bathtub on Sundays after 6pm in one town, but if you travel 50 miles west it suddenly becomes a morally sanctioned act? Violent protests seems like a legit crime to me. A little worse than a Turkey on a tub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said: So you would never use your second amendment right to protect yourself from the goverment would you? That would be a violent protest. That's illegal. Right? No that’s self defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 26 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said: So if you were to convict someone of property damage and someone else for a failed attempt at the overthrow of the US government, you're charging them the same? Or does one come with a harsher punishment? I care more about human life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said: I care more about human life It's a hypothetical where no one is hurt. So which is worse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 14 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said: No that’s self defense So if the government decided the 2nd amendment was no longer a thing and they were coming for your guns, would violent protest be justified? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 26 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said: So if the government decided the 2nd amendment was no longer a thing and they were coming for your guns, would violent protest be justified? That my friend is a revolt, not a riot, not a protest and I certainly won’t kill a neighbor over it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 32 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said: It's a hypothetical where no one is hurt. So which is worse? In this case I had no fear that the Viking hat people were taking over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 8 hours ago, Angry Byrds said: They are both riots. It’s the same thing except this one happened to be “Republicans” so your side is blowing it up. I said both were wrong but because I think one is worse than the other I’m an asshole, got it. As far as loss of life, loss of property, loss of income, and injury they don’t even compare. Portland Oregon is still fucked beyond recognition. There’s businesses there that will never come back. I’m sorry, I know I’m getting older but I cannot seem to recall the post where I called you an asshole so maybe you can link it? Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 6 hours ago, f8ta1ity54 said: My uncle is almost 90 years old. He still wakes up screaming in the middle of the night after serving in the Korean War almost 70 years ago. Sorry to hear that Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 4 hours ago, Angry Byrds said: Fighting against an abusive government is different than rioting. There is never a good reason to kill or beat an innocent person walking down the street or set fire to your neighbors business. That doesn’t effect the government at all. So maybe they should’ve checked the government instead? Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc856 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Now you can’t keep turkeys in your bathtub after six? can this day get ANY WORSE!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 hour ago, HipKat said: I’m sorry, I know I’m getting older but I cannot seem to recall the post where I called you an asshole so maybe you can link it? You didn’t lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 hour ago, HipKat said: So maybe they should’ve checked the government instead? If that’s who they are going after. Honestly I thought that this is where it was going. If you’re going to go after anyone shouldn’t it be the ones that beating you down? I don’t suggest you burn down a police dept but why the local bakery instead? Because they’re not going to come out shooting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 6 hours ago, Angry Byrds said: @HipKatDo you see this? These 2 actually believe that the BLM riots were warranted. That's where I differ from them. The BLM riots were a race-influenced political movement using criminals who died in confrontations with police officers 1 Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 6 hours ago, Angry Byrds said: Revolt is an uprising against the government not the people. Riots are burning, looting,killing innocence. Rioting gets nothing accomplished. Rioting gives you Portland So... Jan 6th? Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 3 hours ago, jc856 said: Now you can’t keep turkeys in your bathtub after six? can this day get ANY WORSE!?! Pretty sure you can still drop them out of a Helicopter Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 BTW, a revolt is an organized uprising against an entity in power. A riot is an unorganized, typically violent gathering that could be inspired by multiple influences 2 Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, HipKat said: So... Jan 6th? Yeah, it shouldn’t have happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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