Angry Byrds Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said: the police are part of the government, no? Police are there to protect private property, no? Seems pretty reasonable why people would resort to rioting and destruction given those circumstances. A revolt is different from a riot. And even in a revolt there is NO good reason to KILL or BEAT and innocent person or BURN down their business. This isn’t a coordinated revolt against an abusive government, this riot and looting just to riot and loot. Lesson over Again the government doesn’t give 2 shits if you burn down your neighbors house Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said: the police are part of the government, no? Police are there to protect private property, no? Seems pretty reasonable why people would resort to rioting and destruction and beating and killing given those circumstances. I fixed it for you. Crazy how you left that part out. You must be stupid or just smart enough to stay quiet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 @f8ta1ity54i’m kinda shocked that you guys support this rioting. Even Tonya Taters supports our men and women in blue. I guess I feel a lot better knowing that I stand against both actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 @HipKatDo you see this? These 2 actually believe that the BLM riots were warranted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 23 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said: A revolt is different from a riot. And even in a revolt there is NO good reason to KILL or BEAT and innocent person or BURN down their business. This isn’t a coordinated revolt against an abusive government, this riot and looting just to riot and loot. Lesson over Again the government doesn’t give 2 shits if you burn down your neighbors house So there are valid reasons to riot? We agree that it CAN be justified? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said: @HipKatDo you see this? These 2 actually believe that the BLM riots were warranted. Have I said that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: So there are valid reasons to riot? We agree that it CAN be justified? There could be a good reason to coordinate a revolt against an abusive government Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 minute ago, ICRockets2 said: Have I said that? Sorry f8 did. I just figured you were going there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said: There could be a good reason to coordinate a revolt against an abusive government What do you consider the difference between a revolt and a riot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc856 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 13 hours ago, Woody said: I remember JLB vividly and I'm pretty sure he was(is?) a real dude. He used to keep this forum flooded with so many threads that we couldn't keep up with them all. And when a thread went too long without any participation he would start replying to himself. He posted so much that his record as "Top Poster" held up for over a decade after he left. I think he had over 35K if I remember right. All the records got screwed up after the latest software update. He was up around 60K. I think his name was John and he was from Brockport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: What do you consider the difference between a revolt and a riot? Revolt is an uprising against the government not the people. Riots are burning, looting,killing innocence. Rioting gets nothing accomplished. Rioting gives you Portland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Angry Byrds said: Revolt is an uprising against the government not the people. Riots are burning, looting,killing innocence. Rioting gets nothing accomplished. Rioting gives you Portland You're using emotional rhetoric. Step back from your presumption that an action is inherently condemnable and engage in a simple language exercise. What is the difference between a revolt and a riot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 21 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: You're using emotional rhetoric. Step back from your presumption that an action is inherently condemnable and engage in a simple language exercise. What is the difference between a revolt and a riot? I told you a revolt is to rebel against an authority Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said: I told you a revolt is to rebel against an authority Yes, but what is a riot? Your other definition, if we try to break down the rhetoric you used, was essentially just "a riot is a revolt I don't like." Surely there's a better way to distinguish them that we can use as a mutual definition, no? If not, I propose we move forward without trying to make a distinction between a revolt and a riot. But I'm happy to give you the opportunity to make a case for why they ought to be distinct first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said: I told you a revolt is to rebel against an authority A rebellion is an attempt to get concessions from an oppressive power, where as a revolt is to try to overthrow an oppressive power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 57 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said: @f8ta1ity54i’m kinda shocked that you guys support this rioting. Even Tonya Taters supports our men and women in blue. I guess I feel a lot better knowing that I stand against both actions. Never said I supported it. I can understand the reason behind it. As MLK said "...a riot is the language of the unheard." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: Yes, but what is a riot? Your other definition, if we try to break down the rhetoric you used, was essentially just "a riot is a revolt I don't like." Surely there's a better way to distinguish them that we can use as a mutual definition, no? If not, I propose we move forward without trying to make a distinction between a revolt and a riot. But I'm happy to give you the opportunity to make a case for why they ought to be distinct first. No the very definition of a revolt is coordinated people rising up against tyrannical government. Riot isn’t the same thing, sorry. You are trying to say one is ok the other is not in this case both were bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said: No the very definition of a revolt is coordinated people rising up against tyrannical government. Riot isn’t the same thing, sorry. You are trying to say one is ok the other is not in this case both were bad Wait, protesting against a military coup is bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 minute ago, ICRockets2 said: Wait, protesting against a military coup is bad? Peaceful protest is never bad. But I like how you guys just ask more questions rather then defend your stance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said: No the very definition of a revolt is coordinated people rising up against tyrannical government. Riot isn’t the same thing, sorry. You are trying to say one is ok the other is not in this case both were bad Ok, instead of black and white, let's deal in shades of gray. Which would be worse for the American people, a riot in which property is damaged and people are killed, OR attempting to overthrow the US goverment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said: Peaceful protest is never bad. But I like how you guys just ask more questions rather then defend your stance So blocking traffic is a good form of peaceful protest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said: Peaceful protest is never bad. But I like how you guys just ask more questions rather then defend your stance In order to defend my stance in a way that will convince you it's a valid perspective, I first need to know more about why you believe what you believe. That's fair, isn't it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said: Peaceful protest is never bad. Can violent protest ever be good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said: So blocking traffic is a good form of peaceful protest? No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: Can violent protest ever be good? None that I can think of. It’s illegal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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