Jon Stewart Nails Arkansas AG On Ban Of Gender-Affirming Care For Trans Youth

[ICRockets2]

21 minutes ago, HipKat said:

No, the explanation is simple. Mental health issues. But that doesn't play into the agenda of letting them just choose their gender identity

The mental health issue is gender dysphoria.  The entire therapeutic and psychiatric community agrees that social transition is a very effective treatment for this.

[ICRockets2]

21 minutes ago, HipKat said:

As long as he looks passably female, I'm all good. You DID notice I never said anything about those pics, I'm quite sure

Got it, you hate trans people but you'll jerk off to trans women.  I'm sure all the MAGAs on the board will see this as a recruitment opportunity.

https://lawsuit.org/general-law/republicans-have-an-obsession-with-transgender-pornography/

[ICRockets2]

13 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said:

I think it's good for kids to know what gender means, because it is a biological fact that a child's internal perception of their gender can be established by age 4.  Without the words to describe what they're feeling, a trans kid will be even further alienated from their peers.  That's obviously bad, since socialization is a huge element of early childhood development.

Some scientific literature on this:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/316462407_Gender_Development_in_Transgender_Preschool_Children

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6900519/

[HipKat]

8 hours ago, ICRockets2 said:

I think it's good for kids to know what gender means, because it is a biological fact that a child's internal perception of their gender can be established by age 4.  Without the words to describe what they're feeling, a trans kid will be even further alienated from their peers.  That's obviously bad, since socialization is a huge element of early childhood development.

Do you have kids? No fucking 4 year old is "feeling trans". They're fucking 4! They're feeling Elmo and Backyardigans. 

[HipKat]

8 hours ago, ICRockets2 said:

The mental health issue is gender dysphoria.  The entire therapeutic and psychiatric community agrees that social transition is a very effective treatment for this.

Coddling them

[HipKat]

8 hours ago, ICRockets2 said:

Got it, you hate trans people but you'll jerk off to trans women.  I'm sure all the MAGAs on the board will see this as a recruitment opportunity.

https://lawsuit.org/general-law/republicans-have-an-obsession-with-transgender-pornography/

1, I don't "jerk-off" to Trans-women and 2, I don't hate them. I feel sorry for them because they live a life of confusion brought on by mental illness, enforced by a society that coddles mental illness instead of treating it.

Coddling it means long-lasting return (paying) customer. Treating it means cutting sources of income for mental health professionals

[ICRockets2]

2 hours ago, HipKat said:

Do you have kids? No fucking 4 year old is "feeling trans". They're fucking 4! They're feeling Elmo and Backyardigans. 

Show me studies that say that, then.  

[ICRockets2]

2 hours ago, HipKat said:

Coddling them

Call it whatever you have to call it, the undeniable reality is that it reduces suicidality.  If you had to coddle your daughter to keep her alive, wouldn't you do so without hesitation?

[ICRockets2]

2 hours ago, HipKat said:

 I don't hate them. I feel sorry for them

No, you don't feel sorry for them, you are angry at them for existing.  It seeps out of everything you say about trans people.  You're just a bigot, dude.  You hate pretty much every minority on the planet.  

[f8ta1ity54]

1 hour ago, ICRockets2 said:

Call it whatever you have to call it, the undeniable reality is that it reduces suicidality.  If you had to coddle your daughter to keep her alive, wouldn't you do so without hesitation?

Is "coddling" people with mental illness in the US called a lack of healthcare and homelessness? Not sure what he means.

[ICRockets2]

13 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

Is "coddling" people with mental illness in the US called a lack of healthcare and homelessness? Not sure what he means.

He means whatever he has to mean minute to minute in order to continue hating trans people.  

[RichJ]

 

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[HipKat]

4 hours ago, ICRockets2 said:

Call it whatever you have to call it, the undeniable reality is that it reduces suicidality.  If you had to coddle your daughter to keep her alive, wouldn't you do so without hesitation?

How come I don’t see you taking up arms in support of other groups of people who have a higher incidence of committing suicide, you know, like American veterans? Or do you just ignore people who are real heroes and have lived noble lives? Instead of people who are driven by their sexual hangups.

[HipKat]

4 hours ago, ICRockets2 said:

No, you don't feel sorry for them, you are angry at them for existing.  It seeps out of everything you say about trans people.  You're just a bigot, dude.  You hate pretty much every minority on the planet.  

Right, because you know me so well. I appreciate you reminding me every time I think you’re intelligent that you’re not

[HipKat]

3 hours ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

Is "coddling" people with mental illness in the US called a lack of healthcare and homelessness? Not sure what he means.

That’s part of it but I made it in the same way that way allow parents to cuddle their children by not forcing structure and discipline,  allowing kids to get away with things that older generations would’ve never been allowed to get away with

[RichJ]

[ICRockets2]

20 minutes ago, HipKat said:

That’s part of it but I made it in the same way that way allow parents to cuddle their children by not forcing structure and discipline,  allowing kids to get away with things that older generations would’ve never been allowed to get away with

Are you one of those people who rejects the overwhelming evidence that there's ZERO BENEFIT and OBVIOUS HARM to corporal punishment?  

[ICRockets2]

29 minutes ago, HipKat said:

How come I don’t see you taking up arms in support of other groups of people who have a higher incidence of committing suicide, you know, like American veterans? 

The fuck are you talking about?  The totality of leftist policy would very obviously help suicidal veterans.  Single-payer healthcare would make it easier for them to access therapy and prescription meds, decriminalization of drugs would let them use non-prescription meds in a way that isn't so socially alienating, public housing helps keep them from living on the streets, and broad anti-imperialist foreign policy reduces the number of people you're putting into traumatic combat situations in the first place.  

[HipKat]

3 hours ago, ICRockets2 said:

Are you one of those people who rejects the overwhelming evidence that there's ZERO BENEFIT and OBVIOUS HARM to corporal punishment?  

I have never used corporal punishment with my kids, if that answers your question. Which has nothing to do with this topic

[HipKat]

3 hours ago, ICRockets2 said:

The fuck are you talking about?  The totality of leftist policy would very obviously help suicidal veterans.  Single-payer healthcare would make it easier for them to access therapy and prescription meds, decriminalization of drugs would let them use non-prescription meds in a way that isn't so socially alienating, public housing helps keep them from living on the streets, and broad anti-imperialist foreign policy reduces the number of people you're putting into traumatic combat situations in the first place.  

I already know that stuff. And I agree with it. And I have stood behind it. My question is why are you waving a flag for people that have mental health issues and are confused about their gender but I don’t see you waving it for other people who fall into categories is that have high suicide rates? 

And your response is to point to ways that reduces the number of people that are put into combat situation‘s instead of commenting about people who have been in combat and or offing themselves in record numbers

[Very Wide Right]

19 hours ago, ICRockets2 said:

The mental health issue is gender dysphoria.  The entire therapeutic and psychiatric community agrees that social transition is a very effective treatment for this.

The "psychiatric community" are a bunch of nuts. Do you know any of these people? The drugs these people have pushed on perfectly normal children for the last 30 years is shameful. The lives they have destroyed is legion.

[ICRockets2]

4 hours ago, HipKat said:

I already know that stuff. And I agree with it. And I have stood behind it. My question is why are you waving a flag for people that have mental health issues and are confused about their gender but I don’t see you waving it for other people who fall into categories is that have high suicide rates? 

And your response is to point to ways that reduces the number of people that are put into combat situation‘s instead of commenting about people who have been in combat and or offing themselves in record numbers

When's the last time you saw people around here insulting suicidal veterans and dismissing them as delusional attention-seekers? 

Has that happened?

No?

Then I guess this is a really fucking lazy whataboutism.  

[HipKat]

26 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said:

When's the last time you saw people around here insulting suicidal veterans and dismissing them as delusional attention-seekers? 

Has that happened?

No?

Then I guess this is a really fucking lazy whataboutism.  

No, not really. You'd get more of a positive response if you included any other groups that have high rates of suicide but I guess your mind is too distracted by your Anti-Cis, Anti-Straight new- age nonsense. Outside of their inner circle, if some gender-confused weirdo slits their wrists, no one else gives a fuck. If a US Veteran succumbs to PTSD and the lack of help there is, the country mourns a hero.

Maybe your priorities are fucked up