ICRockets2 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, HipKat said: Actually the reason that I got upset was because the thread is about women. That means female form. You said earlier in this thread that woman and female are interchangeable, no matter what. If that's the case, I can continue to post trans men in your hot girl thread because as long as they're conventionally attractive they fit your definition of a hot girl. Feel free to commit to this, I can end my détente over that thread whenever I want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, RichJ said: I'm ok with people creating their own identity . Just dont force me to pretend or participate in their delusions. If they identify as a cat (they are real too) so be it. I dont have to pay for their litter box or be around when they have to use it. Problem is, they do want you to participate in their delusions. Not just participate but give them extra special attention. Extra special privileges. They should be elevated above everybody else because they’re just that fucking special 2 Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Very Wide Right Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 minute ago, HipKat said: Dude, shut the fuck up with that rhetorical bullshit, seriously. And let’s see you show the world that you can think for yourself instead of repeating everything that Newsmax says Wait, her intelligence isn't real? Shes a fighter jet pilot, isn't she? She has claimed love for the country she defends in several interviews, and she swore an oath to the constitution so what the hell does NEWSMAX have to with it again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 8 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: Language evolves. Would you take anyone seriously who said this about the journey from Shakespearean dialect to now? There’s a difference between language evolving and reinventing the wheel. Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted October 11, 2022 Author Share Posted October 11, 2022 Just now, HipKat said: Problem is, they do want you to participate in their delusions. Not just participate but give them extra special attention. Extra special privileges. They should be elevated above everybody else because they’re just that fucking special yeah. We're supposed to celebrate it and even pay for it. I want nothing to do with gender reassignment surgery. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 minute ago, HipKat said: They have deeper issues and probably require a lot more therapy Not according to the scientific consensus. Social transition drastically reduces suicidality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 8 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: Pretty cool how as soon as you realize you can't pretend there's scientific data supporting your position you just happily revert to overt bigotry. Why did you even try the other approach in the first place? My approach has not changed at all. My argument has been from the beginning FaceTime genetics. There is a distinct difference between men and women genetically. Just because somebody decides they don’t want to have a dick doesn’t mean they’re a woman. They might be pretending They are women, but they’re not women. DNA. It’s not a difficult concept, you just want to discredit it because it doesn’t fit your agenda Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, HipKat said: Problem is, they do want you to participate in their delusions. Not just participate but give them extra special attention. Extra special privileges. They should be elevated above everybody else because they’re just that fucking special Not true. When a marginalized community ends up needing more rights than are currently provided by the government, the government provides those rights to everybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Very Wide Right Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Just now, HipKat said: My approach has not changed at all. My argument has been from the beginning FaceTime genetics. There is a distinct difference between men and women genetically. Just because somebody decides they don’t want to have a dick doesn’t mean they’re a woman. They might be pretending They are women, but they’re not women. DNA. It’s not a difficult concept, you just want to discredit it because it doesn’t fit your agenda It's going to be difficult to continue this conversation when you have too much of a throbbing hate boner to proofread before hitting send. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 13 minutes ago, HipKat said: DNA So in the grocery store, if you don't know if the person is male or female, you ask for DNA samples? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said: So in the grocery store, if you don't know if the person is male or female, you ask for DNA samples? Limit one per customer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 30 minutes ago, RichJ said: this is scientific Hip Lol! Thanks for schooling me 1 Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 30 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: You said earlier in this thread that woman and female are interchangeable, no matter what. If that's the case, I can continue to post trans men in your hot girl thread because as long as they're conventionally attractive they fit your definition of a hot girl. Feel free to commit to this, I can end my détente over that thread whenever I want. Awwww, look everyone! ICR wants to 11 again! Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 18 minutes ago, HipKat said: Awwww, look everyone! ICR wants to 11 again! When you engage in good faith, I treat you with respect. When you don't, you lose that privilege. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 3 hours ago, ICRockets2 said: When you engage in good faith, I treat you with respect. When you don't, you lose that privilege. By good faith, you mean agree with you, right? Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, HipKat said: By good faith, you mean agree with you, right? No, I mean being honest. Just yesterday the conversation we were having about trans people was rooted in the data and various fields of science. Today you're throwing data and science under the bus to spew pure cliched bigotry. What that ultimately means is that the science was never important to you; it was just a means to an end, and that end was finding something academic to hide your hate behind. That's despicable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: No, I mean being honest. Just yesterday the conversation we were having about trans people was rooted in the data and various fields of science. Today you're throwing data and science under the bus to spew pure cliched bigotry. What that ultimately means is that the science was never important to you; it was just a means to an end, and that end was finding something academic to hide your hate behind. That's despicable. Not really, my take on what I posted was there was very little that supported genetic evidence of Transexualism. That genetically Transmen and Cis Men were basically the same. If anything, the article supported my take on it. Yours comes from a source of compassion, mine comes from a source of genetics. You know, DNA Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly'sFinest Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 4 hours ago, ICRockets2 said: It's going to be difficult to continue this conversation when you have too much of a throbbing hate boner to proofread before hitting send. Because you are fantasizing about blowing him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIBills Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, Philly'sFinest said: Because you are fantasizing about blowing him? That would be Lemonaids who fantasizes about Hip's privates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, HipKat said: Not really, my take on what I posted was there was very little that supported genetic evidence of Transexualism. That genetically Transmen and Cis Men were basically the same, genetically. If anything, the article supported my take on it. Yours comes from a source of compassion, mine comes from a source of genetics. You know, DNA The article did not support your take on it at all. It found a genetic anomaly between cis women and trans men but couldn't isolate it to any of the genetic markers that study examined. So the exact same research team went back a year later looking at other genetic markers and isolated it to a specific enzyme, phosphatase A2 or something like that. That study was one of 48 that a different research team reviewed, and that research team concluded that there is some evidence of a genetic underpinning to being trans, but that more research needs to happen to get better answers. It was kind of like that SSRI study from earlier this year, where they found that selective seratonin reuptake inhibitors DO WORK, but that the mechanism by which we THOUGHT they worked was not accurate. In both cases they're basically saying "the science looks good, but there are things we still don't understand and need to dive into more deeply." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 15 hours ago, HipKat said: Problem is, they do want you to participate in their delusions. Not just participate but give them extra special attention. Extra special privileges. They should be elevated above everybody else because they’re just that fucking special Trans people do not ask for anything more than basic acceptance. The only reason this feels like asking for special treatment to you is because it takes special effort for you to accept them. That's a 'you' problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted October 12, 2022 Author Share Posted October 12, 2022 1 hour ago, ICRockets2 said: Trans people do not ask for anything more than basic acceptance. The only reason this feels like asking for special treatment to you is because it takes special effort for you to accept them. That's a 'you' problem. BS. They want more than basic acceptance. They want us to participate in their delusions . They want to force us to call whatever made up pronouns they identify with on certain days. They want us to be attracted to them and date them or we are transphobic amongst other things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 50 minutes ago, RichJ said: BS. They want more than basic acceptance. They want us to participate in their delusions . They want to force us to call whatever made up pronouns they identify with on certain days. They want us to be attracted to them and date them or we are transphobic amongst other things. They're not delusional. Trans people exist and trans identities are scientifically-validated. Literally every pronoun in every language on the planet is made up. The odds that you will ever in your entire lifetime encounter someone with a xenogender or neopronouns are lower than the odds that you'll win the lottery. I am giving you explicit permission right now to date whoever you want as long as you're polite and respectful to people you have no romantic interest in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted October 12, 2022 Author Share Posted October 12, 2022 35 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: They're not delusional. Trans people exist and trans identities are scientifically-validated. Literally every pronoun in every language on the planet is made up. The odds that you will ever in your entire lifetime encounter someone with a xenogender or neopronouns are lower than the odds that you'll win the lottery. I am giving you explicit permission right now to date whoever you want as long as you're polite and respectful to people you have no romantic interest in. So if I refuse to use your made up pronoun what then? This? Middle schoolers accused of sexual harassment for not using preferred pronouns,parents say https://www.kktv.com/2022/05/16/middle-schoolers-accused-sexual-harassment-not-using-preferred-pronouns-parents-say/ what about this? The lesbians who feel pressured to have sex and relationships with trans women https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-57853385 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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