Protests in Iran

[HipKat]

9 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said:

Even if I granted this premise as true, so what?  You don't apply it consistently to other forms of self-reported identity.  You certainly don't invalidate those identities wholecloth based on a perception that its adherents can be obnoxious about it.  

There are obnoxious Christians, for example, and even if you believe the tenets of Christianity are fallacious you still recognize that "being Christian" is an observable phenomenon.  If your uncle asks if he can say grace at Thanksgiving, you don't insist that he prove he is "genetically Christian" or else you'll loudly sing Hava Nagila over him.  

What about obnoxious conservatives?  You can disagree with their politics without determining that conservatism is fake.  NYS has closed primaries, but we don't require someone demonstrate a genetic foundation for their party affiliation before handing them a ballot.  

Hell, we're on a sports forum and we all know obnoxious fans of every team exist.  Nevertheless, if you pass someone at Wegmans and they call out "HEY EY EY EY" you're not going to ask for their 23AndMe before you respond in kind.

The problem with those examples is that they are primarily motivated by environment and relationships.

[SpikedLemonade]

3 minutes ago, TonyasTaters said:

Is hipkat a tranny? Put that up as a poll.

I don't think KuntLip is a tranny but he sure is tranny curious since the "incident".

[TonyasTaters]

4 minutes ago, SpikedLemonade said:

I don't think KuntLip is a tranny but he sure is tranny curious since the "incident".

Got it! It just this guy seems to be obsessed with them. It’s his life but Jesus make a decision.

[ICRockets2]

11 minutes ago, HipKat said:

The one I linked shows very minimal differences in only 1 out of 3 studies between men and transmen, women and  transwomen

Ah, I see where our wires got crossed.  The study you linked was not part of the one I linked.  Rather, it was a different study by the same research team a year later that was part of mine.  That study asserts a link between phospholipase A2 and female-to-male transsexualism.  

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25929975/

Looks like (to me, a layman in this field) they took the results of the first study, the one you linked, and tried to figure out why they found a possible genetic predictor of female-to-male transsexualism but not male-to-female.  According to their conclusion, they did so with a particular enzyme I'd never heard of an hour ago lol

[ICRockets2]

19 minutes ago, HipKat said:

The problem with those examples is that they are primarily motivated by environment and relationships.

So is the performance of gender.  The typical woman in rural Kentucky looks different from the typical woman at UC-Berkeley, but a female student who wears an ankle-high dress and a crucifix necklace on campus and waits until marriage to lose her virginity is no less feminine than one who dresses "immodestly" and sleeps around.

[HipKat]

38 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said:

Ah, I see where our wires got crossed.  The study you linked was not part of the one I linked.  Rather, it was a different study by the same research team a year later that was part of mine.  That study asserts a link between phospholipase A2 and female-to-male transsexualism.  

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25929975/

Looks like (to me, a layman in this field) they took the results of the first study, the one you linked, and tried to figure out why they found a possible genetic predictor of female-to-male transsexualism but not male-to-female.  According to their conclusion, they did so with a particular enzyme I'd never heard of an hour ago lol

It's a hard read, either way

[ICRockets2]

18 hours ago, Very Wide Right said:

Uninsured people MUST be treated by law. 

Cool, what happens next?