ICRockets2 Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 Just now, Very Wide Right said: Not from you,you are very confused and mentally ill but thanks for playing now buh bye No sweetie, you don't want answers from me because you know I can provide them and that makes you shit your pants in terror. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herodotus Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 All is not lost icweiner and hipkunt. Even though you two psychos are banned, you should not feel useless. After all. . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Herodotus said: All is not lost icweiner and hipkunt. Even though you two psychos are banned, you should not feel useless. After all. . . . Just try to be as humane as possible with your target selection, that's all I ask. I know I can't stop you from committing mass murder at this point, but I can at least plead that you don't pick a location where there are a bunch of children. Can we at least compromise on that point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ICRockets2 Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 16 minutes ago, Herodotus said: There is not a single video in the history of the internet that shows someone more mentally ill and emotionally deranged than a person who says "I deserve the gift of new clothes if enough of the people I hate are murdered" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herodotus Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: There is not a single video in the history of the internet that shows someone more mentally ill and emotionally deranged than a person who says "I deserve the gift of new clothes if enough of the people I hate are murdered" So why do you think you deserve new clothes if you kll enough people you don't like? You have a DMI full of issues my mentally ill friend. So have you stopped taking your meds because you ran out of money to buy them or did you just decide that this would be a special day when medicine just wasn't for you. Look we know you are mentally ill. Are you okay? How are you feeling? What did they discuss in group? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 12 minutes ago, Herodotus said: So why do you think you deserve new clothes if you kll enough people you don't like? Do you live in an entirely different realm of existence from the rest of us? You are the one who said "Let's bet on a war because I'm a mentally unstable troglodyte!" Nobody ever expressed support for this psychopathy, least of all me who called it out instantly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, ICRockets2 said: Of course suicidality is a major risk that accompanies mental illness. The goal of psychiatric medicine is to find ways to reduce suicidality. With people who have been diagnosed with gender dysphoria, social and medical transition are proven to have really spectacular results on this front. The problem is that there is no or very, very little genetic science that supports gender dysphoria. That is 100% a psychological issue. And we live in a culture of coddling people and allowing them to exist within their own psychological delusions. 1 Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Very Wide Right said: All nonsense, welfare recipients get the same care as anybody else. Uninsured people MUST be treated by law. People from Canada flock to the U.S. for cancer treatment and many other surgeries, why do you think that is? Welfare recipients? First of all that’s not true and second of all you are intentionally sidestepping the real issue. Welfare recipients have no healthcare premiums. Mine are almost $1000 a month for my kids and I. And that is Blue Cross Blue Shield plan B. I can’t afford plan a and I can barely afford plan B. $5000 deductible. $30 for an office visit and 20% of any major procedure. A CAT scan is considered a major procedure, BTW. The difference in my premiums and increased taxes with no deductible and no call pays and no percentage of major procedures is fucking miles apart. We get fucked in this country. I’m sorry if Tucker lied to you about that also. And as far as, because I know it’s coming, those wait times that you hear about, that’s only for elective procedures and it’s only in certain situations. welfare recipients actually have it made compared to me except for one thing, they do not get the same treatment as somebody in the highest income brackets because they cannot afford to pay for extras like private rooms. Higher cost treatments that insurance companies will avoid because of those costs. The VA by the way, is a completely different story which would not exist if this country had the same kind of healthcare that every other country has. The VA is its own entity and those cases that you’re referring to are not the norm, they are the exception. 1 Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herodotus Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 You've chosen to ignore content by ICRockets2. Options You've chosen to ignore content by HipKat. Options You've chosen to ignore content by HipKat. Options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Very Wide Right Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Herodotus said: You've chosen to ignore content by ICRockets2. Options You've chosen to ignore content by HipKat. Options You've chosen to ignore content by HipKat. Options Yes, Id like a current picture of your gardens 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herodotus Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Very Wide Right said: Yes, Id like a current picture of your gardens Mostly harvested now, but after I get the roses trimmed up for the winter and the herbs covered for winter I could take some pics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikedLemonade Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Herodotus said: All is not lost icweiner and hipkunt. Even though you two psychos are banned, you should not feel useless. After all. . . . KuntLip 1 Quote Do Your Part to Improve The Range -- Please put the TRIO OF TRUMP FLUFFERSTM on IGNORE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herodotus Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, SpikedLemonade said: KuntLip So called because he is short enough that when he stands up straight his lips are about the level of a woman's vajayjay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikedLemonade Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Herodotus said: So called because he is short enough that when he stands up straight his lips are about the level of a woman's vajayjay. Yes However, he is never given that opportunity by a woman over 20 years old so thus he hangs around DQ. 1 Quote Do Your Part to Improve The Range -- Please put the TRIO OF TRUMP FLUFFERSTM on IGNORE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Herodotus said: So called because he is short enough that when he stands up straight his lips are about the level of a woman's vajayjay. At least I get to enjoy "womens vajayjay's", comrade Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 5 hours ago, HipKat said: The problem is that there is no or very, very little genetic science that supports gender dysphoria. That is 100% a psychological issue. And we live in a culture of coddling people and allowing them to exist within their own psychological delusions. If this is true, that there isn't enough literature on this in the field of genetics, then it stands to reason we cannot draw conclusions either way based on the genetic literature. Right? We can't just say "we don't know, therefore it's fake" like you want to. We can't get more information that way because there'd be no way to distinguish between cis and trans people for the sake of collecting that information if trans people don't exist. We have other fields of science that conclusively validate trans identities, so we should be listening to that science and broadly accepting trans people for who they are. THEN, if in the future the genetic science says "yeah we've done a lot of studies on this and we're not able to isolate any common genetic markers amongst trans people in a way that can be replicated and peer-reviewed" you can make the argument you want to make. We're not there yet, so you can't do so honestly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 31 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: If this is true, that there isn't enough literature on this in the field of genetics, then it stands to reason we cannot draw conclusions either way based on the genetic literature. Right? We can't just say "we don't know, therefore it's fake" like you want to. We can't get more information that way because there'd be no way to distinguish between cis and trans people for the sake of collecting that information if trans people don't exist. We have other fields of science that conclusively validate trans identities, so we should be listening to that science and broadly accepting trans people for who they are. THEN, if in the future the genetic science says "yeah we've done a lot of studies on this and we're not able to isolate any common genetic markers amongst trans people in a way that can be replicated and peer-reviewed" you can make the argument you want to make. We're not there yet, so you can't do so honestly. Explain how someone could be genetically transsexual? They can't. You are genetically Male, Female or Intersexed - the exception to the rule. People who just feel like they were born in the wrong body have nothing genetically to support that claim. It's 100% a psychologically influenced feeling Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HipKat Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 @ICRockets2 Research supports my theory Quote The genetics of transsexualism Transsexualism is a gender identity disorder with a multifactorial etiology. Neurodevelopmental processes and genetic factors seem to be implicated. The aim of this study was to investigate the association between the genotype and female-to-male (FtM) and male-to-female (MtF) transsexualism by performing a karyotype and molecular analysis of three variable regions of the genes ERβ (estrogen receptor β), AR (androgen receptor) and CYP19A1 (aromatase). Methods: We carried out a cytogenetic and molecular analysis in 273 FtMs, 442 MtFs, 371 control females and 473 control males. The control groups were healthy, ageand geographical origin-matched. The karyotype was investigated by G-banding and by high-density (HD) array in the transsexual group. The molecular analysis involved three tandem variable regions of genes ERβ (CA repeats in intron 5), AR (CAG repeats in exon 1) and CYP19A1 (TTTA repeats in intron 4). The allele and genotype frequencies, after division into short (S) and long (L) alleles, were obtained. Results: No karyotype aberration has been linked to transsexualism (FtM or MtF), and prevalence of aneuploidy (3%) appears to be slightly higher than in the general population (0.53%). Concerning the molecular study, FtMs differed significantly from control females with respect to the median repeat length polymorphism ERβ (P = 0.002) but not to the length of the other two studied polymorphisms. The repeat numbers in ERβ were significantly higher in FtMs than in the female control group, and the likelihood of developing transsexualism was higher (odds ratio: 2.001 [1.15–3.46]) in the subjects with the genotype homozygous for long alleles. No significant difference in allelic or genotypic distribution of any gene examined was found between MtFs and control males. Moreover, molecular findings presented no evidence of an association between the sex hormone-related genes (ERβ, AR, and CYP19A1) and MtF transsexualism. Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 11, 2022 Author Share Posted October 11, 2022 25 minutes ago, HipKat said: @ICRockets2 Research supports my theory Medical consensus does not appear so conclusive. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7415463/ This meta-analysis of 48 studies (among them, the one you linked) comes to a different conclusion: that there may be a "genetic underpinning" to gender dysphoria but that more evidence is needed before we can say for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 11 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: Medical consensus does not appear so conclusive. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7415463/ This meta-analysis of 48 studies (among them, the one you linked) comes to a different conclusion: that there may be a "genetic underpinning" to gender dysphoria but that more evidence is needed before we can say for sure. The one I linked shows very minimal differences in only 1 out of 3 studies between men and transmen, women and transwomen Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 11, 2022 Author Share Posted October 11, 2022 56 minutes ago, HipKat said: People who just feel like they were born in the wrong body have nothing genetically to support that claim. It's 100% a psychologically influenced feeling Even if I granted this premise as true, so what? You don't apply it consistently to other forms of self-reported identity. You certainly don't invalidate those identities wholecloth based on a perception that its adherents can be obnoxious about it. There are obnoxious Christians, for example, and even if you believe the tenets of Christianity are fallacious you still recognize that "being Christian" is an observable phenomenon. If your uncle asks if he can say grace at Thanksgiving, you don't insist that he prove he is "genetically Christian" or else you'll loudly sing Hava Nagila over him. What about obnoxious conservatives? You can disagree with their politics without determining that conservatism is fake. NYS has closed primaries, but we don't require someone demonstrate a genetic foundation for their party affiliation before handing them a ballot. Hell, we're on a sports forum and we all know obnoxious fans of every team exist. Nevertheless, if you pass someone at Wegmans and they call out "HEY EY EY EY" you're not going to ask for their 23AndMe before you respond in kind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikedLemonade Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Why does every thread KuntLIp gets involved in always turns the topic to trannies? Quote Do Your Part to Improve The Range -- Please put the TRIO OF TRUMP FLUFFERSTM on IGNORE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyasTaters Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, SpikedLemonade said: Why does every thread KuntLIp gets involved in always turns the topic to trannies? Is hipkat a tranny? Put that up as a poll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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