ICRockets2 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Greg said: My original answer is what I really think. A red wave is coming. We will find out in Nov. Unfortunately it is looking like Republicans will win the House. It's still looking good for Dems to hold the Senate, but one red chamber doing nothing but obstruction for 2 years until they can simply appoint federal legislators in 2024 in lieu of asking citizens to elect them is all it takes to end democracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikedLemonade Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 14 minutes ago, TonyasTaters said: There goes Crazy Philly throwing out BS with nothing to back it up. Still waiting for but but Hilary… I don't get what is wrong with the PhillyFairy. Semantics? No one was even talking about the Jews and he starts throwing the term around. I hate when the racists do it as well. Quote Do Your Part to Improve The Range -- Please put the TRIO OF TRUMP FLUFFERSTM on IGNORE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyasTaters Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, SpikedLemonade said: I don't get what is wrong with the PhillyFairy. Semantics? No one was even talking about the Jews and he starts throwing the term around. I hate when the racists do it as well. The guy is very unstable… he is a wanna be thug. All he is a racist coward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 hours ago, ICRockets2 said: Unfortunately it is looking like Republicans will win the House. It's still looking good for Dems to hold the Senate, but one red chamber doing nothing but obstruction for 2 years until they can simply appoint federal legislators in 2024 in lieu of asking citizens to elect them is all it takes to end democracy. I think you mean "Fortunately". America is a Republic not a Democracy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herodotus Posted October 4, 2022 Author Share Posted October 4, 2022 14 minutes ago, Greg said: I think you mean "Fortunately". America is a Republic not a Democracy. A republic is a type of democracy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 51 minutes ago, Greg said: I think you mean "Fortunately". America is a Republic not a Democracy. lmao you're not even doing the dumbfuck meme correctly. The line they want you to parrot mindlessly is "We're not a democracy, we're a constitutional republic" Which of course is the dumbest fucking thing anyone could say because constitutional republics ARE DEMOCRACIES. If this is what you have to offer this forum, you're better off shutting the fuck up and posting in the kiddie pool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deleted Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 3 hours ago, ICRockets2 said: Unfortunately it is looking like Republicans will win the House. It's still looking good for Dems to hold the Senate, but one red chamber doing nothing but obstruction for 2 years until they can simply appoint federal legislators in 2024 in lieu of asking citizens to elect them is all it takes to end democracy. WhyTF would you want the Fascist/ Communist/ Leftist Democratic Party to win? The Progressive Apparatchik wing running the Presidential Administration has collapsed the economy, ruined our foreign policy, destroyed our domestic policy and used their cyber spying infrastructure to politically target those with whom they disagree. You are sick; get help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly'sFinest Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 20 minutes ago, FanBack said: WhyTF would you want the Fascist/ Communist/ Leftist Democratic Party to win? The Progressive Apparatchik wing running the Presidential Administration has collapsed the economy, ruined our foreign policy, destroyed our domestic policy and used their cyber spying infrastructure to politically target those with whom they disagree. You are sick; get help. They're either consumed with TDS and have been programmed by their media masters to see racism and that Republicans are evil fascists trying to take away your rights, or they're simply retards that don't truly get it. There's also the third option here...which is that they are trolls. I believe all these types exist here on this forum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 12 minutes ago, Philly'sFinest said: Republicans are evil fascists trying to take away your rights Just remember how convinced you are that this isn't the case. Hold on to that feeling where you are deeply confident I'm wrong about this. And then promise me a decade from now when you realize I was right the whole time that you will fucking kill yourself for going along with it. (But obviously kill a couple of your fellow Republicans first to try to even out your moral ledger as much as possible) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Half of the population have double digit IQs. Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, shiva2999 said: Half of the population have double digit IQs. Give it time, far right pundits are trying to get rid of one of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiva2999 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, ICRockets2 said: Give it time, far right pundits are trying to get rid of one of them Only 175 million to go. Quote "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 6 hours ago, ICRockets2 said: I used to be of the same opinion, that voting for Democrats was too odious to consider. That's changed over the past year not because of anything they've done- my position remains steadfastly opposed to their political project- but because of what the GOP has done. You look at the things they've passed on a state level, and it's clear what the Republican national project is. You've got laws banning gender-affirming care, you have state AGs declaring that parents of trans kids are going to be investigated by Child Services, you've got laws creating new marriage classifications that exclude same-sex couples, you have the abortion bans that are making 10 year old rape victims cross state lines for procedures, you've got bills that allow parents to demand genital inspections of girls playing sports in middle and high school. All of that would be bad enough, but you also have "election reform" that we both know is just red states finding new ways to disenfranchise people who are unlikely to vote for them. And on top of everything, we're seeing laws criminalizing protest and making it LEGAL to hit protesters with your car. Our democracy was already hanging by a thread. If they get to pass this kind of corrupt election reform federally and couple it with anti-protest legislation, we have absolutely no recourse to fight back. If you can't vote them out and they can murder you when you try to organize in the streets, that's it. We're finished. That led me to the somber realization that voting for Democrats is a moral necessity. Democrats fucking suck dog tits. They do nothing and ask us to be happy about it. But the Republican Party has to lose and there is no mathematical rationalization to believing anybody is winning elections besides the red team or the blue team. If the red team wins we all lose. If the blue team wins we don't win. But at least with the blue team if things get bad enough we'll still have the right to take to the streets and show our grassroots resolve. The red team takes that away and leaves tire tracks on our faces instead. I love the Republican way of thinking. 10 year olds are too young to have sex, dammit but they’re old enough to have a baby. 1 Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 6 hours ago, ICRockets2 said: Interesting. What's your interpretation of this comic? I’m pretty curious about that myself Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 5 hours ago, ICRockets2 said: That's a statement, not an analysis of art. Go on, analyze the comic. What is the artist saying? Oh boy, try not to confuse him Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 5 hours ago, Greg said: He is saying the abortion issue will save the Dems. It won't. Red wave coming as the Dems have screwed up this country with all of the other issues. See above cartoon. Even congressional Republicans have abandoned the red wave prediction. Let me introduce you to Kansas Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipKat Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Herodotus said: A republic is a type of democracy Oh boy, now you’re attacking their narrative Quote “There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herodotus Posted October 4, 2022 Author Share Posted October 4, 2022 29 minutes ago, HipKat said: Oh boy, now you’re attacking their narrative Much like Buddy Ryan (great Defensive coordinator, not so good HC) said, I ain't here to make friends. The pubic hair splitting done by [and its mostly the far right Republitards] morons about whether we are a Republic or a Democracy is jejune and boring. Its like saying Granny smiths aren't apples because they are green and Apples are red. At the end of the day, a granny smith is a fucking apple. Not all democracies are republics but generally speaking a republic either pretends to be a democracy (the United States, North Korea, China, the German Democratic Republic [East Germany] or is a democracy (France, Germany, Ireland or South Korea to name a few). They are democracies because they rely on the consent -via the ballot - of the majority, now its true that some republics are held up by sham elections such as East Germany Did and North Korea and the United States still do where people are given the illusion of choice or even worse as is was the case in the USSR and is the case in the People's Republic of China where you have a one party state but most republics are multi-party states. Republics and democracies both rely on the concept that nobody is above the law, that there is a social contract, and a constitution that is either staare decisis such as the British model or written as is the case in the USA, but again republics are all -from fundamentally flawed to pretty good- democracies or at least states that imagine themselves to be democracies or aspire to become democracies when some epoch or historical process is completed. Take the Soviet Union for example, the uniparty workers' dictatorship was supposed to fade away after the completion of the global worker's revolution. With the death of capitalism and private property would come the death of human misery and the need for government. Anyways, all republics are a type of democracy or at least at some level they aspire to be democracies or at least claim to be them. Not all democracies are republican in form, Athens of Antiquity, but all republics are at least on some level democracies. Republics are a subset of democracies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herodotus Posted October 4, 2022 Author Share Posted October 4, 2022 45 minutes ago, HipKat said: Even congressional Republicans have abandoned the red wave prediction. Let me introduce you to Kansas Kansas is weird. This is not the first time Kansas has held referendums on abortion and voted to keep the practice. Also, Kansas does every few years elect Democrat governors and even Democrat HRs. Yet, they have only like 3 or times since 1860 actually voted for a Demcocrat presidential candidate. Generally speaking, if you are a Republican and you want a Republican national candidate or state wide candidate or referendum to win you want generally low to medium Democrat turn out in Johnson County (Kansas City suburbs), Wyandotte County (KCK), Douglas (KU), Riley (K-State), Shawnee (Topeka), Sedgwick, Hutchison, and Butler counties (Wichita Metro) and you want high republican turnout state wide. Conversely, if you are a Democrat or even a moderate Republican you want, no you NEED high turnout in KC Metro counties in KS, Wichita metro, Topeka metro, and Lawrence and and Manhattan/Ft. Riley and apathy in rural Kansas. Now Kansas may well be changing as lots of people from Kansas City are leaving KCMO and Jackson Co, MO because the mortgage and rent -to borrow from the guy in NYC- is too damn high there and moving to Wyandotte where crime is very high, but rent and mortgage costs are much lower and Johnson where mortgages are high, but rent is fairly affordable. Also, Johnson County has lots of office parks for multinational corporations. In short, we may be seeing a new Illinois in Kansas where much like in Illinois where everything outside of Chicago metro, Springfield, and Champaigne Urbana is deep red, but the state goes blue because most of Illinois popopulation is in Chicago and Springfield and Champaigne Urbana Kansas may start going purple or powder blue because most of the state is deep red but most of the state lives in Wichita, KC Metro, and Lawrence and Manhattan. Anyways, I think that reality is still a few election cycles off. I think most Kansans voted against the abortion law because it was a badly written law. For fuck sakes, I am a prolife Catholic and I think it was a bad law. Think about that one for a minute. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, shiva2999 said: Only 175 million to go. No, no. Not one of the people. One of the digits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deleted Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 56 minutes ago, Herodotus said: Kansas is weird. This is not the first time Kansas has held referendums on abortion and voted to keep the practice. Also, Kansas does every few years elect Democrat governors and even Democrat HRs. Yet, they have only like 3 or times since 1860 actually voted for a Demcocrat presidential candidate. Generally speaking, if you are a Republican and you want a Republican national candidate or state wide candidate or referendum to win you want generally low to medium Democrat turn out in Johnson County (Kansas City suburbs), Wyandotte County (KCK), Douglas (KU), Riley (K-State), Shawnee (Topeka), Sedgwick, Hutchison, and Butler counties (Wichita Metro) and you want high republican turnout state wide. Conversely, if you are a Democrat or even a moderate Republican you want, no you NEED high turnout in KC Metro counties in KS, Wichita metro, Topeka metro, and Lawrence and and Manhattan/Ft. Riley and apathy in rural Kansas. Now Kansas may well be changing as lots of people from Kansas City are leaving KCMO and Jackson Co, MO because the mortgage and rent -to borrow from the guy in NYC- is too damn high there and moving to Wyandotte where crime is very high, but rent and mortgage costs are much lower and Johnson where mortgages are high, but rent is fairly affordable. Also, Johnson County has lots of office parks for multinational corporations. In short, we may be seeing a new Illinois in Kansas where much like in Illinois where everything outside of Chicago metro, Springfield, and Champaigne Urbana is deep red, but the state goes blue because most of Illinois popopulation is in Chicago and Springfield and Champaigne Urbana Kansas may start going purple or powder blue because most of the state is deep red but most of the state lives in Wichita, KC Metro, and Lawrence and Manhattan. Anyways, I think that reality is still a few election cycles off. I think most Kansans voted against the abortion law because it was a badly written law. For fuck sakes, I am a prolife Catholic and I think it was a bad law. Think about that one for a minute. Wow, Nazi Dehumanization at its finest. I could only imagine the 'solutions' that you would develop. Get help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly'sFinest Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 3 hours ago, ICRockets2 said: Just remember how convinced you are that this isn't the case. Hold on to that feeling where you are deeply confident I'm wrong about this. And then promise me a decade from now when you realize I was right the whole time that you will fucking kill yourself for going along with it. (But obviously kill a couple of your fellow Republicans first to try to even out your moral ledger as much as possible) Democrats ruined kids lives and educations with lockdowns and mandates. Democrats killed small businesses with lockdowns and mandates Democrats destroyed the economy with lockdowns and mandates Democrats want to keep America dependent on rare earth minerals and oil from other countries which makes us China's bitch Republicans, to a degree (still a mixed bag, I'll admit) simply want to keep things that don't belong in the classroom out, abortion to not take place after 15 weeks (not a ban, and a reasonable compromise), and for you to keep your first and second amendment rights. How is that taking away anything? Democrats went Orweilian with covid, and they would still keep you locked up and your kids depressed, socially awkward, and stupid if the public didn't pushback like they have. Thank Republicans for fighting to stop the madness that was school closures and mandates, and to open up the economy. It will be liberals and progressives that will likley want to kill themselves when America is forever changed and your now communist China with a social credit score. And that's if we all don't get nuked to oblivion for supporting this proxy war first. I don't want anyone to have to live under tyranny and not by the greatest piece of legislation ever created in our constitution. I want us all to have our rights, our freedoms, and our liberties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICRockets2 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Philly'sFinest said: I don't want anyone to have to live under tyranny and not by the greatest piece of legislation ever created in our constitution. I want us all to have our rights, our freedoms, and our liberties. So if something happened that led to it being legal for state legislatures to simply choose winners of elections instead of holding free and fair elections, you'd oppose that in the strongest possible terms, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herodotus Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 4 hours ago, shiva2999 said: Half of the population have double digit IQs. And that's the average American. As Carlin said, half of us are even dumber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herodotus Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Herodotus said: Kansas is weird. This is not the first time Kansas has held referendums on abortion and voted to keep the practice. Also, Kansas does every few years elect Democrat governors and even Democrat HRs. Yet, they have only like 3 or times since 1860 actually voted for a Demcocrat presidential candidate. Generally speaking, if you are a Republican and you want a Republican national candidate or state wide candidate or referendum to win you want generally low to medium Democrat turn out in Johnson County (Kansas City suburbs), Wyandotte County (KCK), Douglas (KU), Riley (K-State), Shawnee (Topeka), Sedgwick, Hutchison, and Butler counties (Wichita Metro) and you want high republican turnout state wide. Conversely, if you are a Democrat or even a moderate Republican you want, no you NEED high turnout in KC Metro counties in KS, Wichita metro, Topeka metro, and Lawrence and and Manhattan/Ft. Riley and apathy in rural Kansas. Now Kansas may well be changing as lots of people from Kansas City are leaving KCMO and Jackson Co, MO because the mortgage and rent -to borrow from the guy in NYC- is too damn high there and moving to Wyandotte where crime is very high, but rent and mortgage costs are much lower and Johnson where mortgages are high, but rent is fairly affordable. Also, Johnson County has lots of office parks for multinational corporations. In short, we may be seeing a new Illinois in Kansas where much like in Illinois where everything outside of Chicago metro, Springfield, and Champaigne Urbana is deep red, but the state goes blue because most of Illinois popopulation is in Chicago and Springfield and Champaigne Urbana Kansas may start going purple or powder blue because most of the state is deep red but most of the state lives in Wichita, KC Metro, and Lawrence and Manhattan. Anyways, I think that reality is still a few election cycles off. I think most Kansans voted against the abortion law because it was a badly written law. For fuck sakes, I am a prolife Catholic and I think it was a bad law. Think about that one for a minute. 1 hour ago, FanBack said: Wow, Nazi Dehumanization at its finest. I could only imagine the 'solutions' that you would develop. Get help. Okay, people, right and left help me out here. Where in my post, reposted in its entirety, have I dehumanized anyone? I am of the mind that FatAss, uh fanback, here is some low functioning AI program as there is no way that what he wrote is even remotely related to what I posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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