Putin announces a partial military mobilization for Russian citizens

[f8ta1ity54]

Putin announces a partial mobilization for Russian citizens : NPR

So is this is still a "Special Military Operation"? Why are so many people around Putin dying untimely deaths? WEIRD!

 

MOSCOW — Russian President Vladimir Putin declared a "partial mobilization" of Russia's armed forces on Wednesday morning — signing a decree that will send Russians who have gone through military training to join the fight in Ukraine while stopping short of an all-out draft.

"Only those citizens will be drafted to military service who are currently in the reserve and first of all those who have served in the army, who have certain professions and have necessary experience," will be recruited for the campaign, said Putin in a televised address to the nation.

The announcement came just a day after some Russian-controlled areas in Ukraine announced plans for referendums on becoming part of Russia. The choreographed series of events was reminiscent of the Russian leader's announcement to send tens of thousands of troops into Ukraine in February.

 

Putin's Wednesday announcement also came as his country has struggled to replenish its fighting force in Ukraine and suffered setbacks on the battlefield amid a surging Ukrainian counteroffensive.

In a separate television interview, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said Russia would immediately call up 300,000 reservists to "hold the line at the front" in Ukraine.

Addressing world leaders at the U.N. General Assembly Wednesday morning, President Biden said that "Russia has shamelessly violated the core tenets of the United Nations charter" by invading Ukraine.

 

"Putin claims he had to act because Russia was threatened," the president said. "No one threatened Russia. And no one other than Russia sought conflict."

U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Bridget Brink tweeted that Russia is showing "signs of weakness" and "failure" for escalating the war with Ukraine and vowed, "The United States will never recognize Russia's claim to purportedly annexed Ukrainian territory, and we will continue to stand with Ukraine for as long as it takes."

In his address, Putin said the larger force was necessary as Ukraine continued to receive heavy weaponry from a "collective West" intent on "weakening, isolating, and destroying Russia."

The Russian leader also insisted Russia had a moral obligation to protect civilians in partially Russian-occupied portions of Ukraine as they held a series of "referendums" aimed at joining the Russian Federation later this week.

Putin also accused Western powers of providing Ukraine with long-range weapon systems that can strike deep into Russian territory — and again accused Ukraine and its allies of menacing Russia with nuclear threats. Putin warned Russia and its people would use "all available means" in their defense — noting Russia had its own capable nuclear arsenal. "This is no bluff," Putin said.

 

"Those who are blackmailing us with nuclear weapons should know – the rose winds can change and blow in their direction."

The defense minister also provided new figures on Russian casualties — saying 5,937 Russian soldiers had died fighting in Ukraine. Western estimates run much higher.

 

 

 

[micknaboz]

Countdown to Putin MAGA support.

[f8ta1ity54]

9 minutes ago, micknaboz said:

Countdown to Putin MAGA support.

Yes the MAGAts love putin.

The "America Bad" leftists love him too.

[Herodotus]

Sad development, but expected. "Limited" wars almost always inch closer to total wars the longer they go. All this means is that more young Ukrainians and more young Russians will die, and my guess is that this SMO will move more into a new phase of cities getting flattened and civilians dying. Damn crying shame. What, you thought I would support Russia? Well, okay, to an extent I do because if you read the Rand Corporation's study you'd see that Russia was goaded into this war. However, I oppose all wars and proxy wars (those where we just send guns and mercs) because again the longer a war goes the more total it becomes. So today's development is sad, but predictable.

[LiterateStylish]

Yeah, it's TOTALLY going expected to plan for Putin.

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[Professor Pigworth]

Pfft. Only one thing is known in these uncertain times, and that is that the Western military-industrial complex will continue to see record profits. 

[Herodotus]

9 minutes ago, Professor Pigworth said:

Pfft. Only one thing is known in these uncertain times, and that is that the Western military-industrial complex will continue to see record profits. 

Professor, lemme tell you the dark sick and disgusting truth.  I saw all of this coming back when we did the whole Orange Revolution and Maidan Square putsch.  I knew then that there would eventually be a war between the United States and Russia, and I felt that it would begin with proxy fights and then there would be mercs, and then there would be the tragedy of young American boys fighting a war with young Russian boys, which would lead to nuclear fueled extinction.  At the current time I am mildly relieved we have made it to football season without serious escalation, but what we are seeing out of the Kremlin is that.  If we haven't started incinerating the globe by Superbowl Sunday I would be pleasantly surprised. 

[Professor Pigworth]

14 hours ago, LiterateStylish said:

Yeah, it's TOTALLY going expected to plan for Putin.

 

And all it took for Russia to have to deploy additional forces was about one hundred billion dollars and counting from the US and allies being swallowed up in Ukraine, followed by massive inflation in the West and severe disruption and damage to the world's economies, not to mention the ongoing threat of an escalation to nuclear war.

I know you're happy and giddy whenever anything doesn't go to plan for Putin, but do you think all that was worth it?

[Professor Pigworth]

11 hours ago, Herodotus said:

Professor, lemme tell you the dark sick and disgusting truth.  I saw all of this coming back when we did the whole Orange Revolution and Maidan Square putsch.  I knew then that there would eventually be a war between the United States and Russia, and I felt that it would begin with proxy fights and then there would be mercs, and then there would be the tragedy of young American boys fighting a war with young Russian boys, which would lead to nuclear fueled extinction.  At the current time I am mildly relieved we have made it to football season without serious escalation, but what we are seeing out of the Kremlin is that.  If we haven't started incinerating the globe by Superbowl Sunday I would be pleasantly surprised. 

Let me ask you this.  Of all the people on this site and in the wider population who support "taking out Putin" and doing whatever it takes to bloody Russia's nose -- and there do seem to be a lot -- how many of them do you suppose could have located Ukraine on a map before this war?  Now suddenly it's the most important thing in the world for them to support sweet, innocent, democratic-loving Ukraine and see this thing through to the end, even if it means "sending our boys in" and risking a possible escalation to nuclear war.

I don't own a television and I haven't been following events much on the internet in recent weeks, but when I do read a headline on a mainstream news site like the BBC, there seems to be no limit to the reports of outrageous atrocities by the evil Ruskies being committed or yet another devastating setback or instance of gross incompetence by the Russian army. The Ukrainians meanwhile can do no wrong; everything's going really, really well for them and they never commit any sort of atrocity of course and we should all be ashamed to even for one moment hesitate to waver in our support, even if it means that for some or many of us we're going to be very cold this winter and we're going to have to use up our savings, face economic hardship, etc. But just think how bad those poor Ukrainians have it. For as bad as it is for us, it's much worse for them.  

That's the message that seems to have been relayed these past few months. It's a message for suckers, if you ask me, though, since a lot of what they consume is disinformation.

I take my hat off to Western leaders and the complicit media that have been successfully whipping up the public into a state of pro-war hysteria, but I wonder how long public support for this madness can last. 

[deleted]

Why don't we start producing oil.   That will stop it cold.  If we never stopped producing, this wouldn't have happened. 

[shiva2999]

 

[f8ta1ity54]

The "America Bad" Leftists would be ripping the US to shreds if the government said they were "goaded" into an offensive war. Apply the same standards you would to US imperialism to Russian imperialism. We get it, the US military has done some shady military shit around the world for a long time. That doesn't mean Russia or anyone else should get a free pass.

[shiva2999]

1 hour ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

The "America Bad" Leftists would be ripping the US to shreds if the government said they were "goaded" into an offensive war. 

So, you admit the Russians were "goaded" into attacking but mentioning it means we're hypocrites?

Please...

[f8ta1ity54]

11 minutes ago, shiva2999 said:

So, you admit the Russians were "goaded" into attacking but mentioning it means we're hypocrites?

Please...

No I don't admit that at all. Just flipping the argument using your premises.

[shiva2999]

44 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

No I don't admit that at all. Just flipping the argument using your premises.

I don't see how. Saying I'm a hypocrite because you predict how I'd react to some other hypothetical situation is specious.

[f8ta1ity54]

5 minutes ago, shiva2999 said:

I don't see how. Saying I'm a hypocrite because you predict how I'd react to some other hypothetical situation is specious.

YOU said you were a hypocrite. 

[shiva2999]

11 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

YOU said you were a hypocrite. 

Where?

[f8ta1ity54]

1 hour ago, shiva2999 said:

So, you admit the Russians were "goaded" into attacking but mentioning it means we're hypocrites?

Please...

 

4 minutes ago, shiva2999 said:

Where?

 

[shiva2999]

7 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

 

  1 hour ago, shiva2999 said:

So, you admit the Russians were "goaded" into attacking but mentioning it means we're hypocrites?

Please...

 

  8 minutes ago, shiva2999 said:

Where

 

 

Your reading comprehension is failing you.

I asked if you considered me a hypocrite.

I didn't say I was a hypocrite.

[f8ta1ity54]

1 minute ago, shiva2999 said:

Your reading comprehension is failing you.

I asked if you considered me a hypocrite.

I didn't say I was a hypocrite.

Right back at you since you thought I agreed russia was "goaded". 

[shiva2999]

1 minute ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

Right back at you since you thought I agreed russia was "goaded". 

Again, where?

[f8ta1ity54]

1 hour ago, shiva2999 said:

So, you admit the Russians were "goaded" into attacking but mentioning it means we're hypocrites?

Please...

 

1 minute ago, shiva2999 said:

Again, where?

 

[HipKat]

Russia can call up 300 million people, doesn’t mean a damn thing when they don’t have a way to arm them or train them

[.TonyasTaters]

14 minutes ago, HipKat said:

Russia can call up 300 million people, doesn’t mean a damn thing when they don’t have a way to arm them or train them

His own generals are turning on him. You can only throw so many sr.leaders out a window.