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Spike and Shiva: If Lit asked you to come back to the Range to clean it up then why don’t you give Lit and ultimatum? Remove the right wing extremists or the both of you will leave the Range.


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45 minutes ago, Toofast80 said:

It’s all just coincidental events that perfectly lined up (anomalous events in a completely unrealistic timeline) and these events just happened to create the end catastrophic event (I.e. 9/11, 2020 pandemic/election). There could be nothing other than absolute, pure coincidence, of course.

Complete nonsense.

Do evil people plot?

Only for all of history.

The fact is you're afraid to face the truth because it would shatter your worldview and your opinion of your country and it's supposed virtue.

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"The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

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3 minutes ago, shiva2999 said:

Complete nonsense.

Do evil people plot?

Only for all of history.

The fact is you're afraid to face the truth because it would shatter your worldview and your opinion of your country and it's supposed virtue.

What? I think you’re lost dude. Possibly a wrong turn with Hurricane Erin!

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3 minutes ago, Toofast80 said:

What? I think you’re lost dude. Possibly a wrong turn with Hurricane Erin!

Care to say something intelligible?

I have no fucking idea WTF you're saying here.

All three buildings were brought down with explosives.

It's as plain as the nose on your face.

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"The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

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6 minutes ago, shiva2999 said:

Care to say something intelligible?

I have no fucking idea WTF you're saying here.

All three buildings were brought down with explosives.

It's as plain as the nose on your face.

You don’t have a very keen eye for sarcasm, do you!

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7 minutes ago, shiva2999 said:

Care to say something intelligible?

I have no fucking idea WTF you're saying here.

All three buildings were brought down with explosives.

It's as plain as the nose on your face.

9/11 is beginner level red pill

TT is not anywhere near ready to comprehend what is just the tip of an enormous iceberg of comprehension

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16 minutes ago, shiva2999 said:

Care to say something intelligible?

I have no fucking idea WTF you're saying here.

All three buildings were brought down with explosives.

It's as plain as the nose on your face.

I’d rather be cryptic at this point.

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37 minutes ago, Philly'sFinest said:

9/11 is beginner level red pill

TT is not anywhere near ready to comprehend what is just the tip of an enormous iceberg of comprehension

Conspiracy’s are your coping mechanism. You said it yourself it all can’t be coincidence. What is the coincidence? We have had plagues before and we have had war. It’s not new… I too went down the 9/11 rabbit hole and there is nothing there there. One exception that I still don’t believe has been fully explained is the Saudi connection. People like Alex Jones are complete trash and the guy admitted to being fake just to make money. They feed people this shit to line their pockets…Again you folks rail against the US government, hell you don’t want them involved in business because they are incompetent. Yet they are competent enough to pull of 9/11? Really? 

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2 minutes ago, TonyasTaters said:

Conspiracy’s are your coping mechanism. You said it yourself it all can’t be coincidence. What is the coincidence? We have had plagues before and we have had war. It’s not new… I too went down the 9/11 rabbit hole and there is nothing there there. One exception that I still don’t believe has been fully explained is the Saudi connection. People like Alex Jones are complete trash and the guy admitted to being fake just to make money. They feed people this shit to line their pockets…Again you folks rail against the US government, hell you don’t want them involved in business because they are incompetent. Yet they are competent enough to pull of 9/11? Really? 

Sorry, but Alex Jones promoting something for his own reasons doesn't mean it has to be wrong just because Alex Jones is pushing it.

"The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

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57 minutes ago, Toofast80 said:

You don’t have a very keen eye for sarcasm, do you!

My apologies if I misunderstood.

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"The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

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2 minutes ago, shiva2999 said:

Sorry, but Alex Jones promoting something for his own reasons doesn't mean it has to be wrong just because Alex Jones is pushing it.

Everything Alex Jones has ever said has been wrong. It was fine to line his pockets. The US government is incompetent remember? How could they pull any of this off? How? 

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1 hour ago, Philly'sFinest said:

9/11 is beginner level red pill

TT is not anywhere near ready to comprehend what is just the tip of an enormous iceberg of comprehension

If you and Shiva are in agreement that the US govt or some nefarious entity of the US govt planned or allowed 911 to happen, why aren’t you finding common ground to discuss it? 
 

im interested in 911, and am on the fence. Huge conspiracies are hard to keep under wraps for any length of time. You have to keep killing people to keep it under wraps.

I’ve read all the NIST stuff and Architects and Engineers for 911 stuff. Not impressed.

I spent 30 years believing in a JFK plot, but now I’m not inclined to think there was….

 

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18 minutes ago, TonyasTaters said:

Everything Alex Jones has ever said has been wrong. 

Sorry, but hyperbole doesn't prove your point.

In fact, more than a few people, including myself, believe Alex Jones was an American intelligence agent who established his reputation as a bullshitter so that his endorsement would prove to people like you that America was innocent BECAUSE HE ENDORSED IT.

"The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

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19 minutes ago, jc856 said:

If you and Shiva are in agreement that the US govt or some nefarious entity of the US govt planned or allowed 911 to happen, why aren’t you finding common ground to discuss it? 

im interested in 911, and am on the fence.

Do you want to discuss it?

I started writing about 9/11 in this forum in 2002, and over the years fought with, among others, agents of the CIA, the ONI and USAF intelligence and the JREF forum.

None of them were able to refute my arguments and had to resort to insulting the intelligence of those that disagreed with them and accuse us of anti-Americanism.

Now, if you want to know why I believe what I do I'll be happy to explain it, but if your mind is closed I won't bother.

Up to you.

"The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

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Where I used to live in NJ, I had a direct view to the Twin Towers.

It was a great thing to look at every day, day and night.

And when I saw the first plane hit, I thought it was a missile at first. HOLY SHIT.

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Of the three thousand people reportedly killed in the collapse of the two towers, no evidence was ever found of one thousand of them.

Atomized them so their DNA would float away on the wind.

All supposedly from falling concrete.

 

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"The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

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47 minutes ago, shiva2999 said:

Of the three thousand people reportedly killed in the collapse of the two towers, no evidence was ever found of one thousand of them.

Atomized them so their DNA would float away on the wind.

All supposedly from falling concrete.

 

I think there were definitely strategically placed explosives in the towers, but I also can't rule out the possibility of DEW being used in coordination to ensure they bring those towers down

None of what happened is believable. Shanksville and the Pentagon both nit believable either 

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2 hours ago, shiva2999 said:

Do you want to discuss it?

I started writing about 9/11 in this forum in 2002, and over the years fought with, among others, agents of the CIA, the ONI and USAF intelligence and the JREF forum.

None of them were able to refute my arguments and had to resort to insulting the intelligence of those that disagreed with them and accuse us of anti-Americanism.

Now, if you want to know why I believe what I do I'll be happy to explain it, but if your mind is closed I won't bother.

Up to you.

My mind is never closed  to any logical sound argument.

I can be swayed. But I’m very skeptical by nature. I generally take an opposite tack or play devil’s advocate before I accept something as true.

im a firm believer in the adage of needing extraordinary evidence for extraordinary claims.

yes. These are the things I was hoping we could discuss in this forum. 👍😎

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19 minutes ago, jc856 said:

My mind is never closed  to any logical sound argument.

I can be swayed. But I’m very skeptical by nature. I generally take an opposite tack or play devil’s advocate before I accept something as true.

im a firm believer in the adage of needing extraordinary evidence for extraordinary claims.

yes. These are the things I was hoping we could discuss in this forum. 👍😎

There's nothing more "extraordinary" about the idea that things weren't as they claimed as there is about things being as they claimed.

Here's a question for you.

Imagine you're sitting in your living room and all of a sudden your house collapses and falls on you for no reason other than structural failure.

What happens to your body?

"The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date." ~ Gen. Mark (Killer) Kimmitt

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/911_newpearlharbor.pdf

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

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1 minute ago, shiva2999 said:

There's nothing more "extraordinary" about the idea that things weren't as they claimed as there is about things being as they claimed.

Here's a question for you.

Imagine you're sitting in your living room and all of a sudden your house collapses and falls on you for no reason other than structural failure.

What happens to your body?

You left out the Jet Fuel. Just saying…

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