Do you believe in an afterlife?

[SpikedLemonade]

11 hours ago, pkschul said:

I'm all for believing whatever brings you comfort. If you believe in an afterlife or reincarnation or whatever I'm not going to judge. My problem is with people who try to assert their beliefs on me or on anyone who has no interest. Keep prayer out of schools. Keep prayer out of politics. People have as much freedom from religion as they do to religion.

Well said.

[SpikedLemonade]

11 hours ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

there are Christians out there who just want the world to end so they can get that fast pass to heaven. They cant take the pain the world brings and just want it to end without offing themselves. absolute psychos. And yes, they can run for political office and subject others to their insanity.

 

I never understood those rooting for the Second Coming to come within their lifetime on Earth.

[Very Wide Right]

6 hours ago, shiva2999 said:

Simple.

You use your brain.

After all, why would God give you a brain if he didn't want you to use it?

So, because somebody has a brain they know what somebody else is thinking? OK

[Very Wide Right]

8 hours ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

At one point the moon was closer to earth. It has been slowly moving away over time. It is also causing drag which eventually cause the earth's spin to come to a complete stop. Earth will be tidally locked with the sun.

Science can explain a lot about the moon, the earth, the sun and the stars. You should try reading a book other than the Bible.

So I guess as usual you are too dumb to read the question. Ill pray for your dumb ass.

[shiva2999]

21 minutes ago, Very Wide Right said:

So, because somebody has a brain they know what somebody else is thinking? OK

They can certainly make an educated guess.

Most people aren't that complicated.

[f8ta1ity54]

20 minutes ago, Very Wide Right said:

So I guess as usual you are too dumb to read the question. Ill pray for your dumb ass.

Your question was just one from ignorance. You are just simply uneducated on the topic. Put down the bible and read a science book. You'll find the nature is more interesting than the writings of uneducated iron age cultists.

[f8ta1ity54]

6 hours ago, SpikedLemonade said:

I never understood those rooting for the Second Coming to come within their lifetime on Earth.

Well, Christianity is a death cult, so there is that.

[shiva2999]

 

[LiterateStylish]

20 hours ago, shiva2999 said:

Here's a question I've never gotten believers to answer.

Who does God love more?

A righteous unbeliever or a scumbag believer?

You’ve never gotten a believer to answer that? That is a very simple and common Christian question.

[shiva2999]

1 minute ago, LiterateStylish said:

You’ve never gotten a believer to answer that? That is a very simple and common Christian question.

You would think so.

My personal opinion as an atheist from the age of 10 is that all things being equal, God loves righteous unbelievers best.

They are the proof of a loving father.

[LiterateStylish]

19 hours ago, pkschul said:

Keep prayer out of schools. Keep prayer out of politics. People have as much freedom from religion as they do to religion.

I’ve never understood why people get so upset about trivial things like prayer in politics, or “In God We Trust” on money.

If you don’t believe in God, why does it bother people so much to see that others do in a public setting?

Is it because it was test 30 seconds of your time that could be spent listening to politicians blather on? Do your hands burn when you touch money with “In God We Trust” on it? I don’t get it.

If there is a god I don’t believe in - say, the flying spaghetti monster, and people want to pray before something to that spaghetti monster, i’ll laugh and think it’s ridiculous. But i’m surely not going to go on crusades to get them to stop, or attend school board meetings so they feel my uproar over it.

 

[LiterateStylish]

5 minutes ago, shiva2999 said:

You would think so.

My personal opinion as an atheist from the age of 10 is that all things being equal, God loves righteous unbelievers best.

They are the proof of a loving father.

The entire foundation of Christianity is that God loved the world so much that he sent his only Son to die for everyone in the world, that all who believes shall be saved.

By the very foundation alone, God loves all. Not sure why there would be a “best” love.

[shiva2999]

1 minute ago, LiterateStylish said:

The entire foundation of Christianity is that God loved the world so much that he sent his only Son to die for everyone in the world, that all who believes shall be saved.

By the very foundation alone, God loves all. Not sure why there would be a “best” love.

That's Christianity's opinion and IMO, it's self-serving.

The parable of the Prodigal Son addresses the issue.

Also Jesus and the Centurion...

 

The Faith of the Centurion

Matthew 8...

 

⁵ When Jesus had entered Capernaum, a centurion came to him, asking for help. ⁶ “Lord,” he said, “my servant lies at home paralyzed, suffering terribly.”

⁷ Jesus said to him, “Shall I come and heal him?”

⁸ The centurion replied, “Lord, I do not deserve to have you come under my roof. But just say the word, and my servant will be healed. ⁹ For I myself am a man under authority, with soldiers under me. I tell this one, ‘Go,’ and he goes; and that one, ‘Come,’ and he comes. I say to my servant, ‘Do this,’ and he does it.”

¹⁰ When Jesus heard this, he was amazed and said to those following him, “Truly I tell you, I have not found anyone in Israel with such great faith. ¹¹ I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. ¹² But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

¹³ Then Jesus said to the centurion, “Go! Let it be done just as you believed it would.” And his servant was healed at that moment.

 

[BrewMan]

Once you are dead, you are dead.  No heaven or hell you are just gone.  That's what I firmly believe.  What others want to believe in is up to them.

I don't have any religious beliefs and never have.  I think religion is mostly a joke but again if others want to have religion so be it and have at it just don't preach it to me.

One nation under god?  Blah blah, doesn't bother me but I don't believe it.  In god we trust?  Blah blah blah, doesn't bother me but I don't believe in it. 

The only thing I like about Churches is their architecture.  There are a lot of nice churches out there and they should be taxed just like my home and my business properties are. 

[LiterateStylish]

23 minutes ago, shiva2999 said:

That's Christianity's opinion and IMO, it's self-serving.

The parable of the Prodigal Son addresses the issue.

Also Jesus and the Centurion...

 

The Faith of the Centurion

Matthew 8...

 

⁵ When Jesus had entered Capernaum, a centurion came to him, asking for help. ⁶ “Lord,” he said, “my servant lies at home paralyzed, suffering terribly.”

⁷ Jesus said to him, “Shall I come and heal him?”

⁸ The centurion replied, “Lord, I do not deserve to have you come under my roof. But just say the word, and my servant will be healed. ⁹ For I myself am a man under authority, with soldiers under me. I tell this one, ‘Go,’ and he goes; and that one, ‘Come,’ and he comes. I say to my servant, ‘Do this,’ and he does it.”

¹⁰ When Jesus heard this, he was amazed and said to those following him, “Truly I tell you, I have not found anyone in Israel with such great faith. ¹¹ I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. ¹² But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

¹³ Then Jesus said to the centurion, “Go! Let it be done just as you believed it would.” And his servant was healed at that moment.

 

 

Youre going to have to explain what this has to do with what you originally asked.

[f8ta1ity54]

19 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said:

I’ve never understood why people get so upset about trivial things like prayer in politics, or “In God We Trust” on money.

Would Christians be okay with "In Allah we trust" on their money and government buildings or politicians praying to Allah 5 times a day? Does that sound like something trivial to Christians?

19 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said:

If you don’t believe in God, why does it bother people so much to see that others do in a public setting?

Because it causes social unrest. Do you think the football coach will treat students differently that don't want to pray on the 50 yard line after games? Accounts from students around the country have been there is social pressure to conform. 

19 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said:

Is it because it was test 30 seconds of your time that could be spent listening to politicians blather on? Do your hands burn when you touch money with “In God We Trust” on it? I don’t get it.

Separation of Church and state. It doesnt belong on anything related to the government. Like I said, Christians dont want Allah or Baphomet on anything, so why do Christians get their way? 

19 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said:

If there is a god I don’t believe in - say, the flying spaghetti monster, and people want to pray before something to that spaghetti monster, i’ll laugh and think it’s ridiculous. But i’m surely not going to go on crusades to get them to stop, or attend school board meetings so they feel my uproar over it.

The flying spaghetti monster is obviously satire. Now imagine they were serious about making you live your life based on their values. Imagine they relentlessly pushed their agenda through government. Imagine they start showing up to schools around the country and demanded everyone wear colanders on their heads and eat pasta for every meal. When they don't get their way the decide to use violence to scare people. You're telling me you would just shrug that off? LMAO yea okay.  

[f8ta1ity54]

4 minutes ago, BrewMan said:

Once you are dead, you are dead.  No heaven or hell you are just gone.  That's what I firmly believe.  What others want to believe in is up to them.

I don't have any religious beliefs and never have.  I think religion is mostly a joke but again if others want to have religion so be it and have at it just don't preach it to me.

One nation under god?  Blah blah, doesn't bother me but I don't believe it.  In god we trust?  Blah blah blah, doesn't bother me but I don't believe in it. 

The only thing I like about Churches is their architecture.  There are a lot of nice churches out there and they should be taxed just like my home and my business properties are. 

give them an inch, they will take a mile. 

put god on money first, then prayer in schools and government, then overturning civil rights that dont conform with their holy book.

FUCK THAT.

[LiterateStylish]

4 minutes ago, BrewMan said:

Once you are dead, you are dead.  No heaven or hell you are just gone. 

Have you ever entertained this thought?

"I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live as if there isn't and to die to find out that there is."

The quote has long intrigued me, because as often as we humans are wrong about, well, basically everything, atheists put A LOT of faith in themselves being right, on a topic that if they were wrong, could be devastating.  

4 minutes ago, BrewMan said:

One nation under god?  Blah blah, doesn't bother me but I don't believe it.  In god we trust?  Blah blah blah, doesn't bother me but I don't believe in it. 

This is the way to act if you dont believe in God, in my opinion.

[LiterateStylish]

8 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

Would Christians be okay with "In Allah we trust" on their money and government buildings

I can't speak for all Christians, but as for myself, I don't even look at my money. Jee, now that I think about it, I don't even carry around cash anymore. I use mostly debit/credit card. I wouldn't even know its there until someone pointed it out to me, and then i'd forget it shortly after.

So no, I would not care. 

8 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

or politicians praying to Allah 5 times a day?

There are politicians that pray to Allah...

8 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

Because it causes social unrest.

Only if you allow it to unrest you lol

8 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

The flying spaghetti monster is obviously satire. Now imagine they were serious about making you live your life based on their values. Imagine they relentlessly pushed their agenda through government. Imagine they start showing up to schools around the country and demanded everyone wear colanders on their heads and eat pasta for every meal. When they don't get their way the decide to use violence to scare people. You're telling me you would just shrug that off? LMAO yea okay.  

Forcing people to live by your values does NOT equal prayer in schools or government. Those arent the same. Someone muttering words that you dont believe in is not the same as someone telling you that you must do something too.

You're switching the argument from a simple prayer, to encroaching on others lives with rules and mandates. Stay on topic.

[shiva2999]

5 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said:

 

Youre going to have to explain what this has to do with what you originally asked.

Not sure exactly what you're referring to.

What was it that I originally asked?

Not being cute.

[shiva2999]

We also need to keep in mind that neither God nor Jesus demanded the creation of the Catholic Church nor did they proclaim it's infallibility.

[LiterateStylish]

17 minutes ago, shiva2999 said:

Not sure exactly what you're referring to.

What was it that I originally asked?

Not being cute.

Who God loves more.

[LiterateStylish]

12 minutes ago, shiva2999 said:

We also need to keep in mind that neither God nor Jesus demanded the creation of the Catholic Church nor did they proclaim it's infallibility.

With out looking up a single statistic, my guess would be that the majority of Christians are not Catholic. I know i'm not.

[f8ta1ity54]

4 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said:

I can't speak for all Christians, but as for myself, I don't even look at my money. Jee, now that I think about it, I don't even carry around cash anymore. I use mostly debit/credit card. I wouldn't even know its there until someone pointed it out to me, and then i'd forget it shortly after.

Well you are in the minority. Christians would lose their fucking minds if Allah or Baphomet was on their money or government buildings. Solve the problem by removing it entirely. 

4 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said:

So no, I would not care. 

10s of millions of Christians do.

4 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said:

There are politicians that pray to Allah...

Yup, and they are the most hated people in congress. 

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4 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said:

Only if you allow it to unrest you lol

So you wouldnt have a feeling of unrest if your football coach didnt start you because you wouldnt pray to allah at mid field after games?

4 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said:

Forcing people to live by your values does NOT equal prayer in schools or government. Those arent the same. Someone muttering words that you dont believe in is not the same as someone telling you that you must do something too.

Christians are forcing their values on Americans already. They overturned RvW, they will come after contraception and gay marriage next. What makes you think they would stop at schools? 

4 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said:

You're switching the argument from a simple prayer, to encroaching on others lives with rules and mandates. Stay on topic.

Because thats where it starts and where it goes. You continue to downplay what is happening in this country. The Christian right is trying to take over every institution in the united states.

[LiterateStylish]

On 7/12/2022 at 9:55 AM, f8ta1ity54 said:

We don't know yet.

If we dont know yet, then how can you be so confident?