jc856 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 2 hours ago, RichJ said: there is no arguing with a monster who thinks it morally right to sexualize children. Freak. There is no arguing with faith-based people believing in books that require massive amounts of faith to jump thru all the hoops, the leaps of faith, circular reasoning, illogical logic, nonsensical rules and tests and general bullshit that is in your “Tomes Of Wisdom”. I’m talking about all the books of faith. 50 years of searching and researching religion has only made me more convinced it’s all a ruse. religion is all about FOG. fear, obligation and guilt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc856 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 2 hours ago, f8ta1ity54 said: Why aren't you complaining about child beauty pageants? They look sexualized to me. Its almost as if you are just homo/transphobic and don't really have problem with kids being sexualized otherwise. After the Jon Benet Ramsey case was the first time I ever gave that a thought. my unasked for opinion is it’s not healthy. it’s for the moms ego half the time anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 2 hours ago, f8ta1ity54 said: My side? the democrats are not my side. they just happen to be not fascists. I was "raised" catholic. So i'm sure my ex-church has done something. But then I found the light of the one true god. He told me everything is god's will, so don't bother. So i just walk by kids with cancer or who need food. God wanted them full of cancer and hungry. If i started helping people, that would be socialism. This doesn’t surprise me. Have the government do it all while you sit back and watch. Nice job!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 2 hours ago, f8ta1ity54 said: Oh so you would support a candidate that wanted to implement childntax credits, free school lunch, increased minimum wage to help families, paid family leave, free childcare, increased public school funding, better sex Ed in schools, and supporting reproductive rights? Didn't think so. Again I live in FL tax credits for children doesn’t everyone? Actually George W signed a bill to give bigger tax credits to those who adopt and for the one who chooses adoption over abortion. We have free school lunches here I’m pretty sure we’ve been through this before. Paid family leave is vacation time. Free childcare is VPK on up and you can get government assistance. Sex Ed is fine my kids had it in 6th then health in high school plus at home parents should teach and they had it had church. When should you have sex and it’s best to use contraception if you are not planning to have a child but doesn’t always work, so be responsible. Reproductive rights is a matter of opinion that’s why there laws in place, that’s when people have abortions they often feel bad, because it’s not a good thing for anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 5 hours ago, jc856 said: There is no arguing with faith-based people believing in books that require massive amounts of faith to jump thru all the hoops, the leaps of faith, circular reasoning, illogical logic, nonsensical rules and tests and general bullshit that is in your “Tomes Of Wisdom”. I’m talking about all the books of faith. 50 years of searching and researching religion has only made me more convinced it’s all a ruse. religion is all about FOG. fear, obligation and guilt. Christianity , faith ,religion aside, it's wrong to end a human life because that life is unwanted or is going to be an inconvenience to the person who created that life. The choice is made when you decide to engage in sex. People should take responsibility and man up for the choices they make in life. Don't want kids? Don't have sex. Even if you don't believe in the Christian God , I would still prefers the Chritian morals over thise that think killing babies is OK. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc856 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 1 hour ago, RichJ said: Christianity , faith ,religion aside, it's wrong to end a human life because that life is unwanted or is going to be an inconvenience to the person who created that life. The choice is made when you decide to engage in sex. People should take responsibility and man up for the choices they make in life. Don't want kids? Don't have sex. Even if you don't believe in the Christian God , I would still prefers the Chritian morals over thise that think killing babies is OK. Certainly you don’t think morality arose with Christianity exclusively, do you? civilizations for thousands of years previous to Christ lived in communities that had an agreed upon set of rules to live peaceably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 7 hours ago, jc856 said: Certainly you don’t think morality arose with Christianity exclusively, do you? civilizations for thousands of years previous to Christ lived in communities that had an agreed upon set of rules to live peaceably. I didn't claim that anywhere. Everyone has their own morals . Baby killers have their own obviously if you can consider ending human life for the sake of convenience a moral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly'sFinest Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 14 hours ago, jc856 said: There is no arguing with faith-based people believing in books that require massive amounts of faith to jump thru all the hoops, the leaps of faith, circular reasoning, illogical logic, nonsensical rules and tests and general bullshit that is in your “Tomes Of Wisdom”. I’m talking about all the books of faith. 50 years of searching and researching religion has only made me more convinced it’s all a ruse. religion is all about FOG. fear, obligation and guilt. How much have you researched the people who have had near death experiences? Also...have you read books about miracles? My grandparents were super religious, and they were a fantastic example for me as a child. My grandmother passed away, and shortly afterwards I started acting up and getting in trouble. There were numerous times where I probably should have not made it through, but I always did...and I knew the reason why. I've always felt that she was watching over and helping to protect me. I can't explain it to you any more than it just being something you know. If you knew my life and where I am now, you'd say I was very fortunate or even lucky. I'll tell you that it's because I've had the protection from an angel who is watching over me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted June 17 Author Share Posted June 17 17 hours ago, Angry Byrds said: Again I live in FL tax credits for children doesn’t everyone? Actually George W signed a bill to give bigger tax credits to those who adopt and for the one who chooses adoption over abortion. We have free school lunches here I’m pretty sure we’ve been through this before. Paid family leave is vacation time. Free childcare is VPK on up and you can get government assistance. Sex Ed is fine my kids had it in 6th then health in high school plus at home parents should teach and they had it had church. When should you have sex and it’s best to use contraception if you are not planning to have a child but doesn’t always work, so be responsible. Reproductive rights is a matter of opinion that’s why there laws in place, that’s when people have abortions they often feel bad, because it’s not a good thing for anyone. How about, if you don't want an abortion, don't fucking get one. If you do, get one. What happened to freedom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted June 17 Author Share Posted June 17 4 hours ago, Philly'sFinest said: How much have you researched the people who have had near death experiences? Also...have you read books about miracles? My grandparents were super religious, and they were a fantastic example for me as a child. My grandmother passed away, and shortly afterwards I started acting up and getting in trouble. There were numerous times where I probably should have not made it through, but I always did...and I knew the reason why. I've always felt that she was watching over and helping to protect me. I can't explain it to you any more than it just being something you know. If you knew my life and where I am now, you'd say I was very fortunate or even lucky. I'll tell you that it's because I've had the protection from an angel who is watching over me. So all the other people who were in the same position and failed, they didn't have an angel for protection I guess? Maybe all those aborted babies were supposed to die. It's god's will. why are you fighting against god's will? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted June 17 Author Share Posted June 17 13 hours ago, RichJ said: Christianity , faith ,religion aside, it's wrong to end a human life because that life is unwanted or is going to be an inconvenience to the person who created that life. The choice is made when you decide to engage in sex. People should take responsibility and man up for the choices they make in life. Don't want kids? Don't have sex. Even if you don't believe in the Christian God , I would still prefers the Chritian morals over thise that think killing babies is OK. crusades? Spanish inquisition? Yea, Christians never just killed people because they weren't willing to be Christians. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 15 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said: crusades? Spanish inquisition? Yea, Christians never just killed people because they weren't willing to be Christians. Did anyone claim Christians are sinless or perfect? That was all wrong just like murdering babies is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted June 17 Author Share Posted June 17 Just now, RichJ said: Did anyone claim Christians are sinless or perfect? That was all wrong just like murdering babies is wrong. so it wasn't Christianity the revolutionized everything, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichJ Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 15 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said: so it wasn't Christianity the revolutionized everything, huh? Depends who you ask. Obviously someone like you who thinks its ok to murder babies if they are a "possible" inconvenience wont share the same opinion as Tom Holland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 59 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said: How about, if you don't want an abortion, don't fucking get one. If you do, get one. What happened to freedom? You can get one last time I checked. You really should stay up to date on your state laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted June 17 Author Share Posted June 17 Just now, Angry Byrds said: You can get one last time I checked. You really should stay up to date on your state laws. it should not be left up to the states. it should be federally legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 1 minute ago, f8ta1ity54 said: it should not be left up to the states. it should be federally legal. Ok, it’s still legal in all 50 states that I’m aware, and not it shouldn’t this is why we elect politicians for our state to make laws for our state. So if you don’t like it you can get up out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted June 17 Author Share Posted June 17 Just now, Angry Byrds said: Ok, it’s still legal in all 50 states that I’m aware, and not it shouldn’t this is why we elect politicians for our state to make laws for our state. So if you don’t like it you can get up out. and when the fascist decide its not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Just now, f8ta1ity54 said: and when the fascist decide its not? There are fascists lol. You keep skipping over the part where it’s legal in every state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted June 17 Author Share Posted June 17 1 minute ago, Angry Byrds said: There are fascists lol. You keep skipping over the part where it’s legal in every state. and when its not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Byrds Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Just now, f8ta1ity54 said: and when its not? It is right? I don’t argue hypotheticals. Sound familiar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted June 17 Author Share Posted June 17 1 hour ago, Angry Byrds said: It is right? I don’t argue hypotheticals. Sound familiar? That's you. I always engage in hypotheticals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc856 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 4 hours ago, RichJ said: Did anyone claim Christians are sinless or perfect? That was all wrong just like murdering babies is wrong. If Christian’s aren’t sinless or perfect, why do they always try to impose their will over non-Christian’s?. I mean, I give a big thank you to you guys for not killing people for not converting*! I mean, you don’t even burn people on a stake anymore, so you ARE improving towards being kind, loving and Christlike lately. * I’m talking about you Muslims too!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SackMan518 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 1 hour ago, jc856 said: If Christian’s aren’t sinless or perfect, why do they always try to impose their will over non-Christian’s? God's will. Quote Sack "The Buffalo Range's TRUSTED News Source!" “When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” ~ Dresden James Parler @NYexile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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