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From "Betrayal" by Jonathan Karl, abut the last year of the Trump regime.

He brought up a claim that Trump made during the campaign that ballots marked for Trump had been found thrown in a ditch in Wisconsin. The story changed to a river. Trump kept repeating it, implying that it was not one incident but pattern. So, I went to look up the story.

Trump claimed ballots were 'dumped in a river.' The reality is far from it.

No ballots were dumped in a river, nor were any Wisconsin ballots lost.

No absentee ballots in the key battleground state of Wisconsin were found in rivers last week, and though local authorities reported some absentee ballots were temporarily lost in a batch of mail found on the side of the road near Appleton, Wisconsin, none of the ballots were from the state, the Wisconsin Elections Commission said on Thursday.

Unanswered questions about what happened to the batch of mail found in eastern Wisconsin are likely to be addressed by an ongoing Postal Service investigation, but the incident has come under intense and perhaps premature scrutiny because of unsubstantiated claims the president made during the first presidential debate on Tuesday, when he said that mail-in ballots were being "dumped in rivers."

"Did you see what's going on?" Trump said onstage. "They are being dumped in rivers. This is a horrible thing for our country."

"There is no evidence of that," responded Democratic nominee Joe Biden.

White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany later made it clear that Trump was talking about the investigation in Wisconsin.

MORE: A step-by-step look at Trump's falsehoods on mail-in voting: Analysis
McEnany was repeatedly pressed by a reporter on Thursday to clarify where the "river" that Trump talked about was located, but she declined to answer.

"You're missing the forest through the trees here," she responded to the reporter.

The lost mail in Wisconsin was actually found on the side of a road and in a ditch line in Greenville, Wisconsin, a small town of about 12,000 people outside the city of Appleton. The mail was supposed to be in transit to the post office, according to the Outagamie County Sheriff's office. "Several" absentee ballots were found among three "trays" of mail, according to the sheriff's office.

Outagamie County Sheriff's Office Lt. Ryan Carpenter described each "tray" as about 18-inches high with an estimated few hundred pieces of mail. Officers who reported to the scene didn't count how many absentee ballots were in the mix, Carpenter said.

The U.S. Postal Service, which is in charge of the investigation going forward, declined to comment, but Wisconsin Elections Commission administrator Meagan Wolfe announced on Thursday that she'd been informed by post office officials that no Wisconsin ballots were among the lost mail.

Wolfe said she was not informed what state the ballots were from.

"There was mail found outside of Appleton, and that mail did not contain any Wisconsin ballots, no Wisconsin ballots were part of what was found, no Wisconsin ballots were involved or impacted by the incident," Wolfe said Thursday afternoon.

"But if there were ever an issue with Wisconsin ballot, it's a very intentional, deliberate process with many safeguards in place, where we would be able to identify issues," Wolfe added.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-claimed-ballots-dumped-river-reality/story?id=73370587

See how that works. Yes, some trays of mail were found in a ditch by the side of the road. They were not trays of ballots. There appear to have been a few out of state absentee ballots mixed in. Were they "marked for Trump"? Absentee ballots are in sealed envelopes. Without opening them no one would know who they were marked for. So, we have a grain of truth. Trump took that grain, inflated it, embroidered it, made it into a conspiracy against him, and had never walked it back. So, it is now part of the Holy Scripture of Trump, believed in by Trumpists everywhere.

 

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As the Ukrainian born and raised Soviet leader Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchyov once observed, "politicians are the same the world over, they promise a bridge even where there is no water." In other words, you are accusing Trump for doing what politicians do.  Politicians either make shit up wholesale or they take something that may look unusual and take it out of all due context and proportion.  I don't get what is so shocking about Trump lying other than the fact that people somehow saw him as telling the truth or somehow see Biden as being more honest.  

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27 minutes ago, Herodotus said:

As the Ukrainian born and raised Soviet leader Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchyov once observed, "politicians are the same the world over, they promise a bridge even where there is no water." In other words, you are accusing Trump for doing what politicians do.  Politicians either make shit up wholesale or they take something that may look unusual and take it out of all due context and proportion.  I don't get what is so shocking about Trump lying other than the fact that people somehow saw him as telling the truth or somehow see Biden as being more honest.  

It astounds me, even at my age, how easily people (in general) will fall for any smooth-talking snake oil salesman. which is about 89% of the political animal population in the US.

how come, at our very advanced intelligence (not confirmed), we don’t question why politicians want to be leaders. I mean, why? 
 

why should we trust ANYONE who WANTS to be a politician?

how come we don’t make them take a test, or something? 
 

like a Minnesota Multiphasic or something. So we could see what makes them tick before we trust them to make decisions for us.

I don’t trust none of those fuckers.
 

 

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1 hour ago, Herodotus said:

As the Ukrainian born and raised Soviet leader Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchyov once observed, "politicians are the same the world over, they promise a bridge even where there is no water." In other words, you are accusing Trump for doing what politicians do.  

Really?? How many other politicians in the US have made a sordid and public spectacle of themselves spending over a year and a half trying to overturn a lawful and certified election while inspiring an attack on the US Capitol in an attempt to stop the transfer of power??

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6 minutes ago, HipKat said:

Really?? How many other politicians in the US have made a sordid and public spectacle of themselves spending over a year and a half trying to overturn a lawful and certified election while inspiring an attack on the US Capitol in an attempt to stop the transfer of power??

Shrub came close, because yeah Gore should have been president, but really Trump and 1/6 (especially Republican opposition to an investigation) show me that the powers that be in DC really want to try something like this again in future.  I think, well fear, that in future we will see a more competent president succeed where Trump tried.  1/6 was just one more symptom of a deeply entrenched disease.

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8 hours ago, HipKat said:

 

From "Betrayal" by Jonathan Karl, abut the last year of the Trump regime.

He brought up a claim that Trump made during the campaign that ballots marked for Trump had been found thrown in a ditch in Wisconsin. The story changed to a river. Trump kept repeating it, implying that it was not one incident but pattern. So, I went to look up the story.

Trump claimed ballots were 'dumped in a river.' The reality is far from it.

No ballots were dumped in a river, nor were any Wisconsin ballots lost.

No absentee ballots in the key battleground state of Wisconsin were found in rivers last week, and though local authorities reported some absentee ballots were temporarily lost in a batch of mail found on the side of the road near Appleton, Wisconsin, none of the ballots were from the state, the Wisconsin Elections Commission said on Thursday.

Unanswered questions about what happened to the batch of mail found in eastern Wisconsin are likely to be addressed by an ongoing Postal Service investigation, but the incident has come under intense and perhaps premature scrutiny because of unsubstantiated claims the president made during the first presidential debate on Tuesday, when he said that mail-in ballots were being "dumped in rivers."

"Did you see what's going on?" Trump said onstage. "They are being dumped in rivers. This is a horrible thing for our country."

"There is no evidence of that," responded Democratic nominee Joe Biden.

White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany later made it clear that Trump was talking about the investigation in Wisconsin.

MORE: A step-by-step look at Trump's falsehoods on mail-in voting: Analysis
McEnany was repeatedly pressed by a reporter on Thursday to clarify where the "river" that Trump talked about was located, but she declined to answer.

"You're missing the forest through the trees here," she responded to the reporter.

The lost mail in Wisconsin was actually found on the side of a road and in a ditch line in Greenville, Wisconsin, a small town of about 12,000 people outside the city of Appleton. The mail was supposed to be in transit to the post office, according to the Outagamie County Sheriff's office. "Several" absentee ballots were found among three "trays" of mail, according to the sheriff's office.

Outagamie County Sheriff's Office Lt. Ryan Carpenter described each "tray" as about 18-inches high with an estimated few hundred pieces of mail. Officers who reported to the scene didn't count how many absentee ballots were in the mix, Carpenter said.

The U.S. Postal Service, which is in charge of the investigation going forward, declined to comment, but Wisconsin Elections Commission administrator Meagan Wolfe announced on Thursday that she'd been informed by post office officials that no Wisconsin ballots were among the lost mail.

Wolfe said she was not informed what state the ballots were from.

"There was mail found outside of Appleton, and that mail did not contain any Wisconsin ballots, no Wisconsin ballots were part of what was found, no Wisconsin ballots were involved or impacted by the incident," Wolfe said Thursday afternoon.

"But if there were ever an issue with Wisconsin ballot, it's a very intentional, deliberate process with many safeguards in place, where we would be able to identify issues," Wolfe added.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-claimed-ballots-dumped-river-reality/story?id=73370587

See how that works. Yes, some trays of mail were found in a ditch by the side of the road. They were not trays of ballots. There appear to have been a few out of state absentee ballots mixed in. Were they "marked for Trump"? Absentee ballots are in sealed envelopes. Without opening them no one would know who they were marked for. So, we have a grain of truth. Trump took that grain, inflated it, embroidered it, made it into a conspiracy against him, and had never walked it back. So, it is now part of the Holy Scripture of Trump, believed in by Trumpists everywhere.

 

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3 hours ago, HipKat said:

Really?? How many other politicians in the US have made a sordid and public spectacle of themselves spending over a year and a half trying to overturn a lawful and certified election while inspiring an attack on the US Capitol in an attempt to stop the transfer of power??

TDS.  Obsession.  Paranoia.

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4 hours ago, HipKat said:

Really?? How many other politicians in the US have made a sordid and public spectacle of themselves spending over a year and a half trying to overturn a lawful and certified election while inspiring an attack on the US Capitol in an attempt to stop the transfer of power??

Chuckie Schumer supported false witnesses against the enormously qualified candidate Brett Kavanaugh for Supreme court justice then literally threatened him before a cheering mob. Later a democrat wacko attempted to assassinate the Judge and his family in his home. Trump called for a peaceful protest and that's all. When is the hearing for Schumer? When will he be arrested? Schumer was trying to derail the judges lawful decision with threats.

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53 minutes ago, Very Wide Right said:

Chuckie Schumer supported false witnesses against the enormously qualified candidate Brett Kavanaugh for Supreme court justice then literally threatened him before a cheering mob. Later a democrat wacko attempted to assassinate the Judge and his family in his home. Trump called for a peaceful protest and that's all. When is the hearing for Schumer? When will he be arrested? Schumer was trying to derail the judges lawful decision with threats.

 He didn't threaten him, although his remarks were definitely uncalled for.

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Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

 

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23 hours ago, HipKat said:

Really?? How many other politicians in the US have made a sordid and public spectacle of themselves spending over a year and a half trying to overturn a lawful and certified election while inspiring an attack on the US Capitol in an attempt to stop the transfer of power??

Who Does That Hillary Clinton GIF by Election 2016

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1 hour ago, SackMan518 said:

Who Does That Hillary Clinton GIF by Election 2016

Sorry, I don’t remember Hillary supporters storming the capital to try and stop the transfer of power. Oh wait, that’s right. She conceded

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5 minutes ago, HipKat said:

Sorry, I don’t remember Hillary supporters storming the capital to try and stop the transfer of power. Oh wait, that’s right. She conceded

Yeah she conceded and today is still crying that Putin somehow hacked the election system and got him in not to mention 4 fucking years of the American Intelligence Community spending millions of dollars on "wild goose hunt" investigations and gaslighting the public into thinking it was all real. You fell for it.

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10 minutes ago, SackMan518 said:

Yeah she conceded and today is still crying that Putin somehow hacked the election system and got him in not to mention 4 fucking years of the American Intelligence Community spending millions of dollars on "wild goose hunt" investigations and gaslighting the public into thinking it was all real. You fell for it.

This is just ripe with ignorance. Hillary has barely showed her face since she lost that election. A few occasional appearances and then she calls back into her hole. But you even say that when you’re a Trump supporter in light of everything that’s happened with his lies and illegal activity is concerning the 2020 election, that’s just the most blatant case of being detached from reality then I think I’ve seen in a very long time

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31 minutes ago, HipKat said:

This is just ripe with ignorance. Hillary has barely showed her face since she lost that election. A few occasional appearances and then she calls back into her hole. But you even say that when you’re a Trump supporter in light of everything that’s happened with his lies and illegal activity is concerning the 2020 election, that’s just the most blatant case of being detached from reality then I think I’ve seen in a very long time

Sure thing buddy, she's brought it up in nearly every interview since 2016.

 

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3 hours ago, SackMan518 said:

Sure thing buddy, she's brought it up in nearly every interview since 2016.

 

And no one is listening. Matter of fact, her interviews fly so under the radar, I bet most people don't even know she's done any. Regardless your whataboutism doesn't change what happened Jan 6th

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22 minutes ago, HipKat said:

egardless your whataboutism doesn't change what happened Jan 6th

Yup, basically nothing of importance unless you believe made-for-TV psyops intended to discourage citizen push back against corrupt governments. 

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8 hours ago, SackMan518 said:

Yup, basically nothing of importance unless you believe made-for-TV psyops intended to discourage citizen push back against corrupt governments. 

Or in your case, in light of actual facts that go against your brainwashing by unproven and ridiculous conspiracy theories

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