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Should pregnant women be allowed to work?

 If the belief that life starts at conception becomes the law of the land then that is where rights for the conceived unborn would kick in?  
 

A pregnant woman going to work would technically violating child labor laws. A pregnant woman would not be allowed to be in a bar or drink alcohol due to the minor onboard. 

 

Sounds silly but who doesn’t think in this environment this isn’t where we’re headed?

With the watchdog laws getting implemented, where neighbors will be spying and investigating neighbors, what’s next on the list?  Laws that pay a $10k bounty for someone tattling on a gun owner for having a beer while hunting?  For crossing a state line to buy liquor?

Be careful what you wish for. 

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2 hours ago, Very Wide Right said:

Yes, they are protecting life simply because they want more donations LOL, you are a simple as they come.

Contraception is preventing unwanted life. Are you against contraceptive methods?

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11 minutes ago, foster said:

Should pregnant women be allowed to work?

 If the belief that life starts at conception becomes the law of the land then that is where rights for the conceived unborn would kick in?  
 

A pregnant woman going to work would technically violating child labor laws. A pregnant woman would not be allowed to be in a bar or drink alcohol due to the minor onboard. 

 

Sounds silly but who doesn’t think in this environment this isn’t where we’re headed?

With the watchdog laws getting implemented, where neighbors will be spying and investigating neighbors, what’s next on the list?  Laws that pay a $10k bounty for someone tattling on a gun owner for having a beer while hunting?  For crossing a state line to buy liquor?

Be careful what you wish for. 

Could you explain what type of work that unborn baby is doing? Is the unborn baby writing reports, taking meetings so on?
 

Could you explain which labor laws are being violated? 

 

Pregnant woman should not consume alcohol is a well known fact and if the mother does recreational drugs and it is detected she loses custody of that baby 

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38 minutes ago, foster said:

Or could it be a bit of both.  Is there a particular teaching in the Bible that spells out being against contraception or abortion or is this just a fallback to the God’s Will interpretation of the situation?
 

I’m not sure why the church should interpret gods will differently for each gender. If impotence is ‘God’s Will’, why shouldn’t the church be against drugs such as Viagra?

 

 

I am not sure you are being serious for me to attempt to explain the teachings of the Catholic Church from the Jesuit perspective I was educated in.

If you are, please let me know and I will give it my best shot.

One of my best friends is a SVD Catholic priest in Tortola and yesterday a buddy with a Masters in Theology and who once was in the Jesuit Seminary to become a Catholic priest came by for a few Red Stripes, my wife's Curried Oxtail and Lamb Necks and a game of Extreme Croquet on the property.

The Old Testament NEVER treated men and women the same.  Women were always important (Eve was created from one of Adam's ribs) however subservient to men.

The New Testament was more progressive and enlightened.  Jesus, after all, was clearly a Marxist.  His positive and inclusive treatment of the prostitute Mary is an example of a much more favourable treatment of women.

There really is NO direct discussion in either about contraception NOR abortion.

The interpretation against abortion came from the general sanctity of life.

Viagra has nothing to do with conception.

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4 minutes ago, Very Wide Right said:

Nope I support contraception 100%, why do you ask?

 

Because I couldn’t remember what you thought on the matter.

some people think that’s wrong too.

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3 hours ago, foster said:

Should pregnant women be allowed to work?

 If the belief that life starts at conception becomes the law of the land then that is where rights for the conceived unborn would kick in?  
 

A pregnant woman going to work would technically violating child labor laws. A pregnant woman would not be allowed to be in a bar or drink alcohol due to the minor onboard. 

 

Sounds silly but who doesn’t think in this environment this isn’t where we’re headed?

With the watchdog laws getting implemented, where neighbors will be spying and investigating neighbors, what’s next on the list?  Laws that pay a $10k bounty for someone tattling on a gun owner for having a beer while hunting?  For crossing a state line to buy liquor?

Be careful what you wish for. 

Damnation, the bolded portion exposes this poster as a moron.

 

The question is what will be higher:  Deaths from Joe Biden's Coronavirus or Abortions?

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I am 1000% against late term abortion, it's the dumbest thing and I wouldn't want to meet the DR that would do it. I'm iffy on abortion within the first few weeks. I guess it depends on the situation, if a woman was raped for example then I don't have a problem with it, her health being at risk is another one I'm okay with. I'm against it if they had unprotected sex and all the sudden decide they don't want a kid, well then don't have unprotected sex, even with a condom or the pill, it's not 100%, so if you don't want kids, don't have intercourse, take it in the ass....

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2 minutes ago, Baldat28 said:

Nah, dumb dumb, where in the world is a mom's health at risk as the baby is in the third trimester? 

This is literally the only circumstance where a late-term abortion is performed.  98.7% of abortions are in the first 2 trimesters.  Late-term abortions are incredibly rare and are only sought if the well-being of the fetus or the mother is at risk.  

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9 minutes ago, Baldat28 said:

Nah, dumb dumb, where in the world is a mom's health at risk as the baby is in the third trimester? A C-section takes care of any of those problems.....but hey, you killing kids, good luck with that one 

https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/fact-sheet/abortions-later-in-pregnancy/

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On 5/14/2022 at 2:43 PM, SpikedLemonade said:

I am not sure you are being serious for me to attempt to explain the teachings of the Catholic Church from the Jesuit perspective I was educated in.

If you are, please let me know and I will give it my best shot.

One of my best friends is a SVD Catholic priest in Tortola and yesterday a buddy with a Masters in Theology and who once was in the Jesuit Seminary to become a Catholic priest came by for a few Red Stripes, my wife's Curried Oxtail and Lamb Necks and a game of Extreme Croquet on the property.

The Old Testament NEVER treated men and women the same.  Women were always important (Eve was created from one of Adam's ribs) however subservient to men.

The New Testament was more progressive and enlightened.  Jesus, after all, was clearly a Marxist.  His positive and inclusive treatment of the prostitute Mary is an example of a much more favourable treatment of women.

There really is NO direct discussion in either about contraception NOR abortion.

The interpretation against abortion came from the general sanctity of life.

Viagra has nothing to do with conception.

Comments and threats from Spiked last night,       So YOU FUCKING PIECE OF HUMAN TAINT,   FUCK YOIUR MOTHER IN HER ASS AND YOUR SISTER IN HER NOSTRILS,  YOU FUCKIN' BLEEDING CUNT,  FUCK YOUR GRANDMOTHER ,  I WOULD PUNCH YOU SO HARD YOUR COUSINS YOU FUCKED WOULD FEEL IT,   IF I HAD ANY LESS RESPECT FOR YOU, YOU WOULD BE DOG SHIT,  I RESPECT MY DOGS SHIT MORE THAN YOU,  JT I AM 6'2" AND TRAINED IN MARTIAL ARTS,  BIG COWARD BEHIND YOUR COMPUTER,  HOW TALL ARE YOU JT?,  DO YOU HAVE SOME FIGHTING TRAINING?,  IN A JUNGLE WORLD, I AM WIPING MY ASS WITH YOU,  DO YIUR THINK YOU COULD SURVIVE IN THAT WORLD?,  LITTLE BITCHES HIDING BEHIND THERI MAMA'S SKIRTS,  I WON'T RAISE THE ISSUE OF GUNS BECAUSE I WANT TO FEEL ONE'S BLOOD IN MY HANDS,  I WANT TO FEEL YOUR BRAIN MATTER UNDERFOOT,  SO WHY DON'T YOU FIRST MEET HIP FACE TO FACE AND IF THERE IS ANYTHING LEFT OF YOU AFTER, I WILL SEND YOU TO YOUR MAMA ONE PIECE AT A TIME EACH MONTH FOR 3 YEARS,  To reach me I will tell you how...   First you need to cross the Canadian Border,  Do you have a valid and current passport?  Are you vaccinated enough to cross?  My guess is that an idiot like you can't even cross the Canadian Border,   So let's say you do cross the border and find my house,   14 security cameras,  12 strong solar lights hooked to motion,  Then 3 deadbolts,   3 large dogs -- 160 lb Male Great Dane and two little guys at 80 lbs each and growing,  Can't wait to put you on Ignore you little bitch,     Comments made by Spiked last night, pure comedy for everyone to enjoy.  Educated in the Jesuit perspective my ass! LOL!

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1 hour ago, Very Wide Right said:

Comments and threats from Spiked last night,       So YOU FUCKING PIECE OF HUMAN TAINT,   FUCK YOIUR MOTHER IN HER ASS AND YOUR SISTER IN HER NOSTRILS,  YOU FUCKIN' BLEEDING CUNT,  FUCK YOUR GRANDMOTHER ,  I WOULD PUNCH YOU SO HARD YOUR COUSINS YOU FUCKED WOULD FEEL IT,   IF I HAD ANY LESS RESPECT FOR YOU, YOU WOULD BE DOG SHIT,  I RESPECT MY DOGS SHIT MORE THAN YOU,  JT I AM 6'2" AND TRAINED IN MARTIAL ARTS,  BIG COWARD BEHIND YOUR COMPUTER,  HOW TALL ARE YOU JT?,  DO YOU HAVE SOME FIGHTING TRAINING?,  IN A JUNGLE WORLD, I AM WIPING MY ASS WITH YOU,  DO YIUR THINK YOU COULD SURVIVE IN THAT WORLD?,  LITTLE BITCHES HIDING BEHIND THERI MAMA'S SKIRTS,  I WON'T RAISE THE ISSUE OF GUNS BECAUSE I WANT TO FEEL ONE'S BLOOD IN MY HANDS,  I WANT TO FEEL YOUR BRAIN MATTER UNDERFOOT,  SO WHY DON'T YOU FIRST MEET HIP FACE TO FACE AND IF THERE IS ANYTHING LEFT OF YOU AFTER, I WILL SEND YOU TO YOUR MAMA ONE PIECE AT A TIME EACH MONTH FOR 3 YEARS,  To reach me I will tell you how...   First you need to cross the Canadian Border,  Do you have a valid and current passport?  Are you vaccinated enough to cross?  My guess is that an idiot like you can't even cross the Canadian Border,   So let's say you do cross the border and find my house,   14 security cameras,  12 strong solar lights hooked to motion,  Then 3 deadbolts,   3 large dogs -- 160 lb Male Great Dane and two little guys at 80 lbs each and growing,  Can't wait to put you on Ignore you little bitch,     Comments made by Spiked last night, pure comedy for everyone to enjoy.  Educated in the Jesuit perspective my ass! LOL!

Wait he's spittin straight fire did you think this would make him look bad?

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8 minutes ago, ICRockets said:

Wait he's spittin straight fire did you think this would make him look bad?

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he vacillates between virtue signaling, and going berserker apeshit when he doesn’t get what he wants. 
 

seems like a balanced guy. I think he’s funny.

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10 hours ago, Baldat28 said:

Nah, dumb dumb, where in the world is a mom's health at risk as the baby is in the third trimester? A C-section takes care of any of those problems.....but hey, you killing kids, good luck with that one 

How many 3rd trimester abortions are really performed in the United States?

Fortunately there is actual data to tell us how many abortions are performed every year and at what gestational age. And no, we don’t get this data from ex-employees or YouTube, we can get it from the Centers for Disease Control. I will assume for these purposes that late-term means at or after 24 weeks (i.e. after viability). And as an aside the “Planned Parenthood video” that showed a delivery looked like a premature non-viable delivery, a far cry from term or “nine months” with no evidence at all to suggest it was an abortion.

 

This is what I found for 2012, the last year with published data:

State Number abortions ≥21 weeks, 2012
Alaska 0
Colorado 87
DC Not reported, I assume 0 as 1 clinic offers up to 26 weeks and 0 ≥21 week terminations reported in 2011, 2010, 2009
New Hampshire Not reported, likely 0

 

Although not reported in 2011, 2010, and 2009 there are only 3 clinics in the state and only one offers 2nd trimester procedures

New Jersey 734  
New Mexico 191
Oregon 166

 

 

Vermont 8
Total 1,186

West Virginia and Mississippi didn’t have gestational age limits in 2012 although they do now so I didn’t include them as neither reported abortions at or after 21 weeks in 2012 so it’s a bit moot. Oregon does not appear to have a practitioner specializing in later term abortions, although abortion data from the State is hard to get. Only one clinic does abortions up to 24 weeks. There may be some post 24 week procedures at hospitals in Oregon, but likely less than the other states.

Of the 699,202 abortions reported to the CDC in 2012, 0.17% were at or after 21 weeks and occurred in a state where it was possible to have a post viability abortion for any reason.  We know from other data sets that many procedures at or after 21 weeks are for fetal anomalies (some say about 80%) and many of these are before 24 weeks. A review of data from one clinic that does abortions after 24 weeks in a state with no gestational age limit shows a median gestational age of 22 weeks. It is a likely a fair extrapolation that all clinics specializing in later term procedures have a similar medial gestational age. Using all the available data it would be fair to say that at least 50% of the 1,186 procedures are < 24 weeks, but that may be higher.
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17% is pretty damn high IMO

 

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4 hours ago, HipKat said:

How many 3rd trimester abortions are really performed in the United States?

Fortunately there is actual data to tell us how many abortions are performed every year and at what gestational age. And no, we don’t get this data from ex-employees or YouTube, we can get it from the Centers for Disease Control. I will assume for these purposes that late-term means at or after 24 weeks (i.e. after viability). And as an aside the “Planned Parenthood video” that showed a delivery looked like a premature non-viable delivery, a far cry from term or “nine months” with no evidence at all to suggest it was an abortion.

 

This is what I found for 2012, the last year with published data:

State Number abortions ≥21 weeks, 2012
Alaska 0
Colorado 87
DC Not reported, I assume 0 as 1 clinic offers up to 26 weeks and 0 ≥21 week terminations reported in 2011, 2010, 2009
New Hampshire Not reported, likely 0

 

Although not reported in 2011, 2010, and 2009 there are only 3 clinics in the state and only one offers 2nd trimester procedures

New Jersey 734  
New Mexico 191
Oregon 166

 

 

Vermont 8
Total 1,186

West Virginia and Mississippi didn’t have gestational age limits in 2012 although they do now so I didn’t include them as neither reported abortions at or after 21 weeks in 2012 so it’s a bit moot. Oregon does not appear to have a practitioner specializing in later term abortions, although abortion data from the State is hard to get. Only one clinic does abortions up to 24 weeks. There may be some post 24 week procedures at hospitals in Oregon, but likely less than the other states.

Of the 699,202 abortions reported to the CDC in 2012, 0.17% were at or after 21 weeks and occurred in a state where it was possible to have a post viability abortion for any reason.  We know from other data sets that many procedures at or after 21 weeks are for fetal anomalies (some say about 80%) and many of these are before 24 weeks. A review of data from one clinic that does abortions after 24 weeks in a state with no gestational age limit shows a median gestational age of 22 weeks. It is a likely a fair extrapolation that all clinics specializing in later term procedures have a similar medial gestational age. Using all the available data it would be fair to say that at least 50% of the 1,186 procedures are < 24 weeks, but that may be higher.
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17% is pretty damn high IMO

 

17% would be.  But it says the number was 0.17%.  

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