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Covid vaccine is 94.1% effective - Is this the greatest scientific achievement in history?


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10 hours ago, HipKat said:

You might want to research people who were not elderly or had underlying conditions that died from Covid.

What was that survival rate again for those under 50? 65?  Nothing's perfect, brah.  Were you aware that the yearly flu kills people?  It's true.  I'll take the damn vaccine just to get normal life back.  Wearing a mask is not normal life.  Fucking Chicoms.  They continue to skate on all this shit.  Unbelievable.

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9 hours ago, Philly'sFinest said:

Those people are quite rare...but I'm sure you engulfed yourself in some sensationalist rag like you love to do and completely bought into it like the sucker you are.

Good news for you is that you won't have to worry about side effects from a vax cause you're already an ugly SOB that nobody would wanna reproduce with anyways.

Vax it up, chump🤣

Made me laugh out loud.  Nice!!!

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13 hours ago, Thebowflexbody said:

The only people who REALLY need it are the elderly and those with underlying conditions.  Everyone else should be able to tough it out if need be.

factually incorrect

first, the virus can kill anyone of any age. if that person is a loved one your cavalier attitude would haunt you for decades 

second, you can be a carrier that infects others even if you are asymptomatic

third, even when you take the vaccine you can be a carrier

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13 hours ago, Thebowflexbody said:

The day I take the vaccine, I ditch the fucking masks for good.  This shit has to stop.  Vaccine ends the CHINESE VIRUS bullshit.

factually incorrect

first, even after you get the vaccine you are not fully protected. 94.1% effectiveness means 5.9 % ineffectiveness, which is about the average casino edge on slot machines - and notice how they eat up your money

second, even with the vaccine you are exhaling droplets of the virus that can easily be picked up by other people

third, we dont know yet how long the effectiveness lasts, whether its different for different people (likely), and what those parameters are

fourth, even with the vaccine you can carry the virus on your body, with your most likely victims being those close to you

sorry there, copernicus. even after getting the vaccine youre probably going to be wearing that mask until 2022. and with sane people in charge, laws will be passed that non-compliers that can be proven to infect others due to their negligence will be prosecuted (not a hard prediction to make). i know this will make you redneck militia moonshine magats blow a gasket but thats the price you pay for supporting a man who did nothing while the virus spread like wildfire and said it would "just disappear"

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24 minutes ago, Meathead said:

factually incorrect

first, the virus can kill anyone of any age. if that person is a loved one your cavalier attitude would haunt you for decades 

second, you can be a carrier that infects others even if you are asymptomatic

third, even when you take the vaccine you can be a carrier

Just playing the percentages.  Nothing is life is full proof/guaranteed.  Things need to get back to normal.  There has been far too much fear mongering.  This is all more of a common sense issue at this point.  I don't need the government to be my mommy.

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17 minutes ago, Meathead said:

factually incorrect

first, even after you get the vaccine you are not fully protected. 94.1% effectiveness means 5.9 % ineffectiveness, which is about the average casino edge on slot machines - and notice how they eat up your money

second, even with the vaccine you are exhaling droplets of the virus that can easily be picked up by other people

third, we dont know yet how long the effectiveness lasts, whether its different for different people (likely), and what those parameters are

fourth, even with the vaccine you can carry the virus on your body, with your most likely victims being those close to you

sorry there, copernicus. even after getting the vaccine youre probably going to be wearing that mask until 2022. and with sane people in charge, laws will be passed that non-compliers that can be proven to infect others due to their negligence will be prosecuted (not a hard prediction to make). i know this will make you redneck militia moonshine magats blow a gasket but thats the price you pay for supporting a man who did nothing while the virus spread like wildfire and said it would "just disappear"

Will they be prosecuting all the people who wear their masks "incorrectly"?  I only see that about 50 times a day.  Sane people in charge!!!!  LOL.  Maybe to you. Get your TDS treated.  You've got a bad case of it.

Has there ever been a 100% effective vaccine?  Bottom line: This shit needs to end.  That's what the vaccine is for.  Masks are going away.  The sooner the better.

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you certainly do

knowingly putting other people at risk bc you dont want to bother with a mask is blindingly selfish and immoral

when they trace an outbreak back to you dont be calling me for bail money. you sit there and think about what you did, young man

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1 minute ago, Thebowflexbody said:

Masks are going away.

i guarantee you will be wearing that mask until 2022

its going to take that long for a) the vaccines to be administered to 70% of the population, 5) to find out how long the immunity lasts, () to deal with mutations, Ñ) to prevent the spread via people who have already taken the vaccination but are carrier or bring it home on their person

go out into a big barren field and breath all the maskless air you want. when you need to rejoin society, youre gonna be wearing that mask a long time

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15 hours ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

We just need to know how long it will last. 

That clinical trial would take far longer than the efficacy trial.  Which, BTW, took longer than the safety trial.

You have to love liberal government-employed Nazis and people dying during the wait for new medicine. 

You should think before your post.  Get off this board and go read a book.  About science.  Or something. 

You're welcome for the free advice.  

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1 hour ago, Meathead said:

you certainly do

knowingly putting other people at risk bc you dont want to bother with a mask is blindingly selfish and immoral

when they trace an outbreak back to you dont be calling me for bail money. you sit there and think about what you did, young man

LOL.  Not worried a bit.  When did I say I don't wear the damn masks?  I said I don't want to anymore.  The vaccine should begin the process of shit-canning the stupid things.

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1 hour ago, Meathead said:

i guarantee you will be wearing that mask until 2022

its going to take that long for a) the vaccines to be administered to 70% of the population, 5) to find out how long the immunity lasts, () to deal with mutations, Ñ) to prevent the spread via people who have already taken the vaccination but are carrier or bring it home on their person

go out into a big barren field and breath all the maskless air you want. when you need to rejoin society, youre gonna be wearing that mask a long time

Not me.  Call the cops.  :classic_biggrin:

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3 minutes ago, FanBack said:

That clinical trial would take far longer than the efficacy trial.  Which, BTW, took longer than the safety trial.

You have to love liberal government-employed Nazis and people dying during the wait for new medicine. 

You should think before your post.  Get off this board and go read a book.  About science.  Or something. 

You're welcome for the free advice.  

LoL holy fuck all the hate for posing a question that would seem pretty pertinent to the situation.

Nazis? Wtf are you talking about? 

Obviously it would take a long time and its an emergency situation. We'll find out how long it lasts as we go, for better or worse. That will require a large scale study to be done too. And from what I have gathered, this board doesn't like studies that don't confirm their bias. There is no need to lecture me on what science is. 

When I'm done with my vaccine text book ill let you borrow my text book on global climate change. Thats science too, right?

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14 minutes ago, FanBack said:

That clinical trial would take far longer than the efficacy trial.  Which, BTW, took longer than the safety trial.

You have to love liberal government-employed Nazis and people dying during the wait for new medicine. 

You should think before your post.  Get off this board and go read a book.  About science.  Or something. 

You're welcome for the free advice.  

Elective surgeries, etc. are being cancelled AGAIN all over the country because of the CHINESE VIRUS spike.  This will likely kill more people than the virus itself.  Mind boggling.  

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5 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

LoL holy fuck all the hate for posing a question that would seem pretty pertinent to the situation.

Nazis? Wtf are you talking about? 

Obviously it would take a long time and its an emergency situation. We'll find out how long it lasts as we go, for better or worse. That will require a large scale study to be done too. And from what I have gathered, this board doesn't like studies that don't confirm their bias. There is no need to lecture me on what science is. 

When I'm done with my vaccine text book ill let you borrow my text book on global climate change. Thats science too, right?

You're whining.  Man up.

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22 hours ago, LiterateStylish said:

Are you scared of it?

No, I see it as unnecessary.

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This is how one of my best friends explained things to me today;


The first to receive the vaccine will be the healthcare workers and ppl who live in long term healthcare facilities, including nursing homes, etc.

As staff and residents in these facilities account for 40% of all deal that from Covid, while making up less than 1% of the total US population.

The number of doses expected to be available by the end of the yr is 40M. Vaccination will require 2 shots. So, 20M vaccinated individuals. That first group includes 24M ppl.

The focus will the be on 3 priority groups: Essential workers (especially frontline healthcare workers): This group is considered to include 87M High-risk adults (primarily those with high risk medical conditions: This group is considered to include 100M Those over 65: This group is about 53M.

There is obviously significant overlap among these three groups as well as the first group. So, the total number of individuals is less than the addition of each group. I don’t know what the total number of individuals is when all these groups are accounted for.

If things go well, we can expect an additional 50M doses available by January. And then an additional 60M by February or March.

That is a total of 150 doses. So, 75M individuals vaccinated, possibly by or before the end of March. Various things I have read tend to concur, we could have a quarter or more of the US population vaccinated by March/April.

By April/May the vaccine is expected, by many, to be widely available.

“There he goes. One of God's own prototypes.

A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production.

Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

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1 minute ago, HipKat said:

This is how one of my best friends explained things to me today;


The first to receive the vaccine will be the healthcare workers and ppl who live in long term healthcare facilities, including nursing homes, etc.

As staff and residents in these facilities account for 40% of all deal that from Covid, while making up less than 1% of the total US population.

The number of doses expected to be available by the end of the yr is 40M. Vaccination will require 2 shots. So, 20M vaccinated individuals. That first group includes 24M ppl.

The focus will the be on 3 priority groups: Essential workers (especially frontline healthcare workers): This group is considered to include 87M High-risk adults (primarily those with high risk medical conditions: This group is considered to include 100M Those over 65: This group is about 53M.

There is obviously significant overlap among these three groups as well as the first group. So, the total number of individuals is less than the addition of each group. I don’t know what the total number of individuals is when all these groups are accounted for.

If things go well, we can expect an additional 50M doses available by January. And then an additional 60M by February or March.

That is a total of 150 doses. So, 75M individuals vaccinated, possibly by or before the end of March. Various things I have read tend to concur, we could have a quarter or more of the US population vaccinated by March/April.

By April/May the vaccine is expected, by many, to be widely available.

Interesting.  Probably agree for the most part.

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Just now, Thebowflexbody said:

Interesting.  Probably agree for the most part.

I'm not sure if she's taking into account all 4 companies because 40 million seems light

“There he goes. One of God's own prototypes.

A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production.

Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

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And BTW, you think you want it gone?? Besides having to wear this uncomfortable thing on my face in every customer's house, which fogs my glasses up constantly and I've tested with a finger pulse-oximeter brings my blood oxygen down to about 91, my kids' mother still hasn't let me pick up my daughters since February or see them since October.

“There he goes. One of God's own prototypes.

A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production.

Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

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Just now, HipKat said:

And BTW, you think you want it gone?? Besides having to wear this uncomfortable thing on my face in every customer's house, which fogs my glasses up constantly and I've tested with a finger pulse-oximeter brings my blood oxygen down to about 91, my kids' mother still hasn't let me pick up my daughters since February or see them since October.

I think people are so done with this thing after 9+ months.  Hopefully not too much more.  The fogged glasses are definitely a pain in the rump.

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