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56 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

First of all, eat a dick.

Second, since there is less socioemotional problems with African Americans because their parents prepare them for the "far-reaching" racism/discrimination by "authority figures" that the paper explicitly says exists, this somehow means no system racism? This paper does not imply that african americans "look for biases in society which means their frame of reference will incline them to see any slight as a matter of racism above any other cause."

Other races are less prepared for racism, and this somehow disproves systemic bias?

So the paper proves that blacks have learned to cope with discrimination and racism better because they are trained by parents. The same people who have dealt with discrimination for generations. How exactly does this disprove systemic racism?

I''d also like to point out that 10% of the data used in this study comes from other countries.

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Meanwhile we wake up to things like this everyday...

Yale ‘illegally discriminates’ against White and Asian students, Justice Department says

 

The DOJ’s probe of Yale found that Asian American and White students are one-tenth to one-fourth as likely to be admitted to the New Haven, Connecticut, university as Black students with comparable academic resumes, the press release said.

“There is no such thing as a nice form of race discrimination,” said Eric Dreiband, assistant attorney general for the department’s Civil Rights Division, in the press release. “Unlawfully dividing Americans into racial and ethnic blocs fosters stereotypes, bitterness, and division. It is past time for American institutions to recognize that all people should be treated with decency and respect and without unlawful regard to the color of their skin.”

The DOJ added: “Yale rejects scores of Asian American and White applicants each year based on their race, whom it otherwise would admit.”

Affirmative Action: The Systemic Racism No One Wants to Talk About

 

Americans dislike racial and gender preferences. According to the Gallup poll, “Americans continue to believe colleges should admit applicants based solely on merit (70%), rather than taking into account applicants’ race and ethnicity in order to promote diversity (26%).” Fifty percent of blacks and 61% of Hispanics say that college admissions should be based on merit alone. It seems likely that hiring, funding, and other functions would reflect similar views. 

Previously marginalized minorities, who suffered under prejudice, discrimination, and legal restraint, are no longer welcome in the fields in which they excelled. Jews and Asians, highly “overrepresented” in medical, professional, and academic fields, are now no longer welcome. Jews today are deemed to be “white,” now that being white is regarded as a bad thing.

Asians, themselves people of color, have offended by being too successful, and have to be excluded to make room for preferred minorities. The new marginalization of Jews is reminiscent of the 1930s when elite universities excluded Jews through strict quotas, because they were not “Christian gentlemen” and they studied too hard. As for white men, you are the wrong sex and the wrong race, so good luck trying to get a place or post or funding in our feminist dominated universities. 

What justifies the establishment of two classes of citizenship, the preferred and protected and the unpreferred and excluded? In one discussion of “systemic racism,” the justification is disparities regarding wealth, income, criminal justice, employment, housing, health care, political power and education, among other factors. The assumption is that “disparities” are unjust and intolerable, that we must jettison ideas of equality before the law and equality of opportunity in favor of equality of results and outcomes, so that every individual, group, and category of people is exactly the same.

New chart illustrates graphically the racial preferences for blacks, Hispanics being admitted to US medical schools

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Majority Of White Americans Say They Believe Whites Face Discrimination

 

A majority of whites say discrimination against them exists in America today, according to a poll released Tuesday from NPR, the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health.

"If you apply for a job, they seem to give the blacks the first crack at it," said 68-year-old Tim Hershman of Akron, Ohio, "and, basically, you know, if you want any help from the government, if you're white, you don't get it. If you're black, you get it."

More than half of whites — 55 percent — surveyed say that, generally speaking, they believe there is discrimination against white people in America today. 

Income by Race

 

  1. Indian American (2019): $123,453 [15]
  2. Taiwanese Americans (2018): $102,328[10]
  3. Filipino American (2018): $92,328[10]
  4. Australian American (2016): $90,930[15]
  5. South African American (2017): $90,517[15]
  6. Chinese Americans (2018): $80,944[10]
  7. Austrian American (2016): $80,717[15]
  8. Japanese American (2018): $80,036[10]
  9. Singaporean American (2016) $79,852[15]
  10. Russian American (2016): $77,841[15]
  11. Pakistani American (2018): $77,074[10]
  12. Bulgarian American (2016): $76,862[15]
  13. Lithuanian American (2016): $76,694[15]
  14. Israeli American (2016): $76,584[15]
  15. Slovene American (2016): $75,940[15]
  16. Iranian American (2017): $75,905[15]
  17. Basque American (2016): $75,864[15]
  18. Lebanese American (2016): $75,337[15]
  19. Croatian American (2016): $73,991[15]
  20. Sri Lankan American: $73,856[15]
  21. Scandinavian American (2016): $73,797[15]
  22. Belgian American (2016): $73,443[15]
  23. Swiss American (2016): $72,823[15]
  24. Italian American (2016): $72,586[15]
  25. Ukrainian American (2016): $72,449[15]
  26. Romanian American (2016): $72,381[15]
  27. Greek American (2016): $72,291[15]
  28. Polish American (2016): $71,172[15]
  29. Danish American (2016): $71,550[15]
  30. Swedish American (2016): $71,217[15]
  31. Slavic American (2016): $71,163[15]
  32. Norwegian American (2016): $71,142[15]
  33. Indonesian American: $70,851[10]
  34. Canadian American (2016): $70,809[15]
  35. Czech American (2016): $70,454[15]
  36. Finnish American (2016): $70,045[15]
  37. Korean American (2018): $72,074[10]
  38. Serbian American (2016): $70,028[15]
  39. French Canadian American (2016): $68,075[15]
  40. Hungarian American (2016): $69,515[15]
  41. Portuguese American (2016): $67,807[15]
  42. Cambodian American: $67,766[10]
  43. Slovak American (2016): $67,471[15]
  44. Armenian American (2016): $67,450[15]
  45. Hmong American (2018) $67,372[10]
  46. Vietnamese American (2018): $67,331[10]
  47. German American (2016): $67,306[15]
  48. Irish American (2016): $66,688[15]
  49. Ghanaian American (2016): $66,571[15]
  50. Turkish American (2016): $66,566[15]
  51. Laotian American (2018): $65,958[10]
  52. Thai Americans (2018): $65,357[10]
  53. Palestinian American (2016): $65,170[15]
  54. Egyptian American (2016): $64,728[15]
  55. Dutch American (2016): $63,597[15]
  56. French American (2016): $63,471[15]
  57. Median American Household Income (2018): $63,179[10]
  58. Syrian American (2016): $63,096[15]
  59. Nepalese American: $62,848[16]
  60. Albanian American (2016): $62,624[15]
  61. Polynesian American (2018): $61,654[10]
  62. Guyanese American (2016): $60,968[15]
  63. Nigerian American (2016): $60,732[15]
  64. British American (2016): $59,872[15]
  65. British West Indian American (2016): $60,407[15]
  66. Cuban American: $57,000[17]
  67. West Indian American: $56,998[15]
  68. Brazilian American (2016): $56,151[15]
  69. Barbadian American: $56,078[15]
  70. Argentine American (2014): $55,000[18]
  71. Scotch-Irish American (2016): $54,187[15]
  72. Jamaican American (2016): $52,669[15]
  73. Trinbagonian Americans: $55,303[15]
  74. Cajun American: $52,886[15]
  75. Moroccan American (2016): $52,436[15]
  76. Peruvian Americans: $52,000[15]
  77. American Americans (2016): $51,601[15]
  78. Scottish American (2016): $51,925[15]
  79. Jordanian American (2016): $51,552[15]
  80. Welsh American (2016): $50,351[15]
  81. Pennsylvania German American (2016): $48,955[15]
  82. Ecuadorian American: $48,600[15]
  83. Colombian American (2014): $48,000[18]
  84. Haitian American (2016): $47,990[15]
  85. English American (2016): $47,663[15]
  86. Cape Verdean American (2016): $47,281[15]
  87. Bangladeshi American: $47,252[15]
  88. Burmese American (2018): $45,348[10]
  89. Assyrian/Chaldean/Syriac American (2016): $44,733[15]
  90. Afghan American: $43,838[15]
  91. Bahamian American: $42,000[15]
  92. Ethiopian American (2016): $41,357[15]
  93. Mexican American (2014): $38,000[18]
  94. Puerto Rican American (2014): $36,000[18]
  95. African Americans(2013): $33,500[19]
  96. Iraqi American (2016): $32,818[15]
  97. Dominican American (2014): $32,300[18]
  98. Somali American (2019): $20,600[20]

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2 minutes ago, SackMan518 said:

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Meanwhile we wake up to things like this everyday...

Yale ‘illegally discriminates’ against White and Asian students, Justice Department says

The DOJ’s probe of Yale found that Asian American and White students are one-tenth to one-fourth as likely to be admitted to the New Haven, Connecticut, university as Black students with comparable academic resumes, the press release said.

“There is no such thing as a nice form of race discrimination,” said Eric Dreiband, assistant attorney general for the department’s Civil Rights Division, in the press release. “Unlawfully dividing Americans into racial and ethnic blocs fosters stereotypes, bitterness, and division. It is past time for American institutions to recognize that all people should be treated with decency and respect and without unlawful regard to the color of their skin.”

The DOJ added: “Yale rejects scores of Asian American and White applicants each year based on their race, whom it otherwise would admit.”

Affirmative Action: The Systemic Racism No One Wants to Talk About

Americans dislike racial and gender preferences. According to the Gallup poll, “Americans continue to believe colleges should admit applicants based solely on merit (70%), rather than taking into account applicants’ race and ethnicity in order to promote diversity (26%).” Fifty percent of blacks and 61% of Hispanics say that college admissions should be based on merit alone. It seems likely that hiring, funding, and other functions would reflect similar views. 

Previously marginalized minorities, who suffered under prejudice, discrimination, and legal restraint, are no longer welcome in the fields in which they excelled. Jews and Asians, highly “overrepresented” in medical, professional, and academic fields, are now no longer welcome. Jews today are deemed to be “white,” now that being white is regarded as a bad thing.

Asians, themselves people of color, have offended by being too successful, and have to be excluded to make room for preferred minorities. The new marginalization of Jews is reminiscent of the 1930s when elite universities excluded Jews through strict quotas, because they were not “Christian gentlemen” and they studied too hard. As for white men, you are the wrong sex and the wrong race, so good luck trying to get a place or post or funding in our feminist dominated universities. 

What justifies the establishment of two classes of citizenship, the preferred and protected and the unpreferred and excluded? In one discussion of “systemic racism,” the justification is disparities regarding wealth, income, criminal justice, employment, housing, health care, political power and education, among other factors. The assumption is that “disparities” are unjust and intolerable, that we must jettison ideas of equality before the law and equality of opportunity in favor of equality of results and outcomes, so that every individual, group, and category of people is exactly the same.

New chart illustrates graphically the racial preferences for blacks, Hispanics being admitted to US medical schools

med1.jpg

Majority Of White Americans Say They Believe Whites Face Discrimination

A majority of whites say discrimination against them exists in America today, according to a poll released Tuesday from NPR, the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health.

"If you apply for a job, they seem to give the blacks the first crack at it," said 68-year-old Tim Hershman of Akron, Ohio, "and, basically, you know, if you want any help from the government, if you're white, you don't get it. If you're black, you get it."

More than half of whites — 55 percent — surveyed say that, generally speaking, they believe there is discrimination against white people in America today. 

Income by Race

  1. Indian American (2019): $123,453 [15]
  2. Taiwanese Americans (2018): $102,328[10]
  3. Filipino American (2018): $92,328[10]
  4. Australian American (2016): $90,930[15]
  5. South African American (2017): $90,517[15]
  6. Chinese Americans (2018): $80,944[10]
  7. Austrian American (2016): $80,717[15]
  8. Japanese American (2018): $80,036[10]
  9. Singaporean American (2016) $79,852[15]
  10. Russian American (2016): $77,841[15]
  11. Pakistani American (2018): $77,074[10]
  12. Bulgarian American (2016): $76,862[15]
  13. Lithuanian American (2016): $76,694[15]
  14. Israeli American (2016): $76,584[15]
  15. Slovene American (2016): $75,940[15]
  16. Iranian American (2017): $75,905[15]
  17. Basque American (2016): $75,864[15]
  18. Lebanese American (2016): $75,337[15]
  19. Croatian American (2016): $73,991[15]
  20. Sri Lankan American: $73,856[15]
  21. Scandinavian American (2016): $73,797[15]
  22. Belgian American (2016): $73,443[15]
  23. Swiss American (2016): $72,823[15]
  24. Italian American (2016): $72,586[15]
  25. Ukrainian American (2016): $72,449[15]
  26. Romanian American (2016): $72,381[15]
  27. Greek American (2016): $72,291[15]
  28. Polish American (2016): $71,172[15]
  29. Danish American (2016): $71,550[15]
  30. Swedish American (2016): $71,217[15]
  31. Slavic American (2016): $71,163[15]
  32. Norwegian American (2016): $71,142[15]
  33. Indonesian American: $70,851[10]
  34. Canadian American (2016): $70,809[15]
  35. Czech American (2016): $70,454[15]
  36. Finnish American (2016): $70,045[15]
  37. Korean American (2018): $72,074[10]
  38. Serbian American (2016): $70,028[15]
  39. French Canadian American (2016): $68,075[15]
  40. Hungarian American (2016): $69,515[15]
  41. Portuguese American (2016): $67,807[15]
  42. Cambodian American: $67,766[10]
  43. Slovak American (2016): $67,471[15]
  44. Armenian American (2016): $67,450[15]
  45. Hmong American (2018) $67,372[10]
  46. Vietnamese American (2018): $67,331[10]
  47. German American (2016): $67,306[15]
  48. Irish American (2016): $66,688[15]
  49. Ghanaian American (2016): $66,571[15]
  50. Turkish American (2016): $66,566[15]
  51. Laotian American (2018): $65,958[10]
  52. Thai Americans (2018): $65,357[10]
  53. Palestinian American (2016): $65,170[15]
  54. Egyptian American (2016): $64,728[15]
  55. Dutch American (2016): $63,597[15]
  56. French American (2016): $63,471[15]
  57. Median American Household Income (2018): $63,179[10]
  58. Syrian American (2016): $63,096[15]
  59. Nepalese American: $62,848[16]
  60. Albanian American (2016): $62,624[15]
  61. Polynesian American (2018): $61,654[10]
  62. Guyanese American (2016): $60,968[15]
  63. Nigerian American (2016): $60,732[15]
  64. British American (2016): $59,872[15]
  65. British West Indian American (2016): $60,407[15]
  66. Cuban American: $57,000[17]
  67. West Indian American: $56,998[15]
  68. Brazilian American (2016): $56,151[15]
  69. Barbadian American: $56,078[15]
  70. Argentine American (2014): $55,000[18]
  71. Scotch-Irish American (2016): $54,187[15]
  72. Jamaican American (2016): $52,669[15]
  73. Trinbagonian Americans: $55,303[15]
  74. Cajun American: $52,886[15]
  75. Moroccan American (2016): $52,436[15]
  76. Peruvian Americans: $52,000[15]
  77. American Americans (2016): $51,601[15]
  78. Scottish American (2016): $51,925[15]
  79. Jordanian American (2016): $51,552[15]
  80. Welsh American (2016): $50,351[15]
  81. Pennsylvania German American (2016): $48,955[15]
  82. Ecuadorian American: $48,600[15]
  83. Colombian American (2014): $48,000[18]
  84. Haitian American (2016): $47,990[15]
  85. English American (2016): $47,663[15]
  86. Cape Verdean American (2016): $47,281[15]
  87. Bangladeshi American: $47,252[15]
  88. Burmese American (2018): $45,348[10]
  89. Assyrian/Chaldean/Syriac American (2016): $44,733[15]
  90. Afghan American: $43,838[15]
  91. Bahamian American: $42,000[15]
  92. Ethiopian American (2016): $41,357[15]
  93. Mexican American (2014): $38,000[18]
  94. Puerto Rican American (2014): $36,000[18]
  95. African Americans(2013): $33,500[19]
  96. Iraqi American (2016): $32,818[15]
  97. Dominican American (2014): $32,300[18]
  98. Somali American (2019): $20,600[20]

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Ok, so now that we are on to another topic entirely, this is where you concede your previous point.

This is why debating you fucks is a waste of time. You never concede a point, you just move on to the next one.

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57 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

Is there something wrong with wanting clarification on potentially loaded questions?

Not necessarily. Did the question sound loaded? People (in general) don’t have the perception that black people are more violent? 
 

I see you answered in another post that poor people in general are more violent. Or something. Does poverty make people more violent?  If that’s true, then people shouldn’t be punished for it. It wouldn’t be fair.

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40 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

Ok, so now that we are on to another topic entirely, this is where you concede your previous point.

This is why debating you fucks is a waste of time. You never concede a point, you just move on to the next one.

lmao

So 93rd out of 95 demographics, African-Americans are three from the bottom on average income. What is he trying to defend again?

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4 hours ago, jc856 said:

Let me make a statement. There’s a perception that blacks are more violent and criminal than other races. Number 1: Is this true? Number 2: If it is true, why?

 

30 minutes ago, jc856 said:

Not necessarily. Did the question sound loaded? People (in general) don’t have the perception that black people are more violent? 
 

I see you answered in another post that poor people in general are more violent. Or something. Does poverty make people more violent?  If that’s true, then people shouldn’t be punished for it. It wouldn’t be fair.

The first statement is totally loaded.. which is why i asked who has this perception? Most people do not believe this. Racists and uneducated/ misinformed do though.

yes poverty makes people commit crime.. when people have limited resources and no means to get them, they will resort to crime and violence. This is supported by criminologists and sociologists everywhere.

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4 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

The first statement is totally loaded.. which is why i asked who has this perception? Most people do not believe this. Racists and uneducated/ misinformed do though.

yes poverty makes people commit crime.. when people have limited resources and no means to get them, they will resort to crime and violence. This is supported by criminologists and sociologists everywhere.

Blacks believe that people perceive them to be more violent. About 80% of blacks think that. Are they stupid too? And, I didn’t ask about crime, just violent tendencies. 

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1 minute ago, jc856 said:

Blacks believe that people perceive them to be more violent. About 80% of blacks think that. Are they stupid too? And, I didn’t ask about crime, just violent tendencies. 

You are talking about an implicit bias. Which is true. People perceive blacks as more violent. Its not just whites.Thats generations of racism at work. I have a study on this as well. I dont remember if I included them on my initial systemic racism thread. It was about mock trials involving the crimes committed by differnt races. It turned out that it didn't matter the race of jurors, the African american suspects were more likely to be found guilty.

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11 hours ago, HipKat said:

So 93rd out of 95 demographics, African-Americans are three from the bottom on average income. What is he trying to defend again?

He doesn't know. His arguments just keep morphing as we go along. Everytime I nail him on a point he changes the topic as if the previous one doesn't exist anymore. Then 3 days later he'll cite some conspiracy website or another study he thinks supports his arguments.

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5 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

He doesn't know. His arguments just keep morphing as we go along. Everytime I nail him on a point he changes the topic as if the previous one doesn't exist anymore. Then 3 days later he'll cite some conspiracy website or another study he thinks supports his arguments.

Ok, you got me. White and Orange man bad. Any other color, good and innocent needing the help of whitey. There's what you believe in a nutshell.

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8 minutes ago, SackMan518 said:

Ok, you got me. White and Orange man bad. Any other color, good and innocent needing the help of whitey. There's what you believe in a nutshell.

Nope. This is just another strawman.

This is how I can tell you fundamentally do not comprehend the arguments I make. If you could at least characterize my arguments fairly, we might be able to have a reasonable discussion. 

 

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4 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

Nope. This is just another strawman.

This is how I can tell you fundamentally do not comprehend the arguments I make. If you could at least characterize my arguments fairly, we might be able to have a reasonable discussion. 

No actually it's a simplified distillation of exactly where you come from. The world is a racist place and it's all the fault of white people who now must pay for their crimes against humanity. That's what you believe and that's where you come from so you may as well just admit it and get it over with. Trying to deflect away from it by saying I don't understand you is intellectually dishonest and just trying to elevate yourself to some higher argument that is ultimately illogical.

Sack "The Buffalo Range's TRUSTED News Source!"

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No actually it's a simplified distillation of exactly where you come from. The world is a racist place and it's all the fault of white people who now must pay for their crimes against humanity. That's what you believe and that's where you come from so you may as well just admit it and get it over with. Trying to deflect away from it by saying I don't understand you is intellectually dishonest and just trying to elevate yourself to some higher argument that is ultimately illogical.

Nope.

I said nothing like this. 

Systemic racism does not mean that all white people are racist. Again, this is how I can tell you are an idiot. Never once did I say all white people are racist, nor did I imply that they are. Its your fragile ego that makes you think that standing up for inequality is the same as an attack on white people.

This is what conservatives do. When they see someone standing up for oppression, they try to twist the narrative to make themselves the victim.

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2 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

Nope.

I said nothing like this. 

Systemic racism does not mean that all white people are racist. Again, this is how I can tell you are an idiot. Never once did I say all white people are racist, nor did I imply that they are. Its your fragile ego that makes you think that standing up for inequality is the same as an attack on white people.

This is what conservatives do. When they see someone standing up for oppression, they try to twist the narrative to make themselves the victim.

Yeah, uh no, we're past the inequality stage champ. Everything now is just giveaways and special privileges. Here's a clue, you think you're standing up against oppression but you're really not. If oppression were that strong in this country the people who are LARPing and thinking they're fighting against it would be crushed like a grape over night. You're fighting against nothing but imaginary dragons and evil white boogeymen. The only victims here are the people who believe in this Leftist ideology, you, and the POC that they inculcate and use as cannon fodder in the new religion of Wokeism.

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29 minutes ago, SackMan518 said:

Yeah, uh no, we're past the inequality stage champ. Everything now is just giveaways and special privileges. Here's a clue, you think you're standing up against oppression but you're really not. If oppression were that strong in this country the people who are LARPing and thinking they're fighting against it would be crushed like a grape over night. You're fighting against nothing but imaginary dragons and evil white boogeymen. The only victims here are the people who believe in this Leftist ideology, you, and the POC that they inculcate and use as cannon fodder in the new religion of Wokeism.

You have nothing to support these claims.

 

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1 hour ago, SackMan518 said:

Yeah, uh no, we're past the inequality stage champ. Everything now is just giveaways and special privileges. Here's a clue, you think you're standing up against oppression but you're really not. If oppression were that strong in this country the people who are LARPing and thinking they're fighting against it would be crushed like a grape over night. You're fighting against nothing but imaginary dragons and evil white boogeymen. The only victims here are the people who believe in this Leftist ideology, you, and the POC that they inculcate and use as cannon fodder in the new religion of Wokeism.

GAME-SET-MATCH.  f8 - you lose.

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