f8ta1ity54 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Thebowflexbody said: There is no such thing as systemic racism. All a lie. No matter how many times you say this, it doesn't make it true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebowflexbody Posted September 29, 2020 Author Share Posted September 29, 2020 44 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said: No matter how many times you say this, it doesn't make it true. Oh it's true, alright. Just another excuse/crutch for the dumb-weak-lazy. Fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Thebowflexbody said: Oh it's true, alright. Just another excuse/crutch for the dumb-weak-lazy. Fact. Yup, there you go again. Still wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebowflexbody Posted September 29, 2020 Author Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 minute ago, f8ta1ity54 said: Yup, there you go again. Still wrong. Nope. Still right. I'm rarely, if ever, wrong. Sorry, Charlie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SackMan518 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 21 hours ago, f8ta1ity54 said: sure do. but that does not mean there is not a systemic bias. just because laws are written on paper doesn't mean they are actually followed. Are you sure you want to go this hole that they've brainwashed you into believing? Racial/ethnic discrimination and well-being during adolescence: A meta-analytic review. Benner, A. D., Wang, Y., Shen, Y., Boyle, A. E., Polk, R., & Cheng, Y.-P. (2018). Racial/ethnic discrimination and well-being during adolescence: A meta-analytic review. American Psychologist, 73(7), 855–883. https://doi.org/10.1037/amp0000204 Abstract This meta-analytic study systematically investigates the relations between perceived racial/ethnic discrimination and socioemotional distress, academics, and risky health behaviors during adolescence, and potential variation in these relations. The study included 214 peer-reviewed articles, theses, and dissertations, with 489 unique effect sizes on 91,338 unique adolescents. Random-effects meta-analyses across 11 separate indicators of well-being identified significant detrimental effects. Greater perceptions of racial/ethnic discrimination were linked to more depressive and internalizing symptoms; greater psychological distress; poorer self-esteem; lower academic achievement and engagement; less academic motivation; greater engagement in externalizing behaviors, risky sexual behaviors, and substance use; and more associations with deviant peers. Metaregression and subgroup analyses indicated differences by race/ethnicity, Gender × Race/Ethnicity interactions, developmental stage, timing of retrospective measurement of discrimination, and country. Overall, this study highlights the pernicious effects of racial/ethnic discrimination for adolescents across developmental domains and suggests who is potentially at greater risk. (PsycInfo Database Record (c) 2020 APA, all rights reserved) Evidence of Heterogeneity in Effect Sizes Racial/ethnic discrimination tended to pose a greater risk for Asian-descent and Latino youth’s socioemotional well-being compared to African-descent but Latino youth’s academics compared to those of African descent. These differential effects are consistent with other scholarship on mean racial/ethnic differences. For example, prior studies have documented greater depressive symptoms and lower self-esteem among Asian Americans compared to Latinos, African Americans, and Whites (Brown, Meadows, & Elder, 2007; Twenge & Crocker, 2002). Latinos also tend to exhibit higher levels of depression than their White and African American peers (Harris, Gordon-Larsen, Chantala, & Udry, 2006; Twenge & Nolen-Hoeksema, 2002) and are more likely to drop out of secondary school and less likely to attain a Bachelor’s degree or higher versus their White, Asian American, and African American peers (Kena et al., 2015). Our study findings suggest that these mean differences in socioemotional adjustment (particularly challenging for youth of Asian and Latino descent) and academics (particularly challenging for Latino youth) may be driven, at least in part, by experiences of discrimination. Future research, however, is needed to determine whether Latino and Asian American youth are experiencing similar or greater levels of discrimination than their African American peers to support this conclusion. The weaker findings for adolescents of African descent may also reflect parents’ socialization efforts, as African American families are more likely to employ socialization strategies that prepare their children for the bias they may face in multiple contexts of their daily lives (Else-Quest & Morse, 2015). It is also possible that stronger effects for African American youth may be observed for other developmental domains not assessed in the current meta-analysis, such as effects of physical health. Prior meta-analyses have documented stronger effects in the link between discrimination and hypertension for African American adults (Dolezsar et al., 2014), and it is possible that cardiovascular risk factors in adolescence (e.g., overweight status, blood pressure) may be similarly more susceptible to discrimination in African American adolescent populations. 1 Quote Sack "The Buffalo Range's TRUSTED News Source!" “When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” ~ Dresden James Parler @NYexile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 23 minutes ago, SackMan518 said: Are you sure you want to go this hole that they've brainwashed you into believing? Racial/ethnic discrimination and well-being during adolescence: A meta-analytic review. Benner, A. D., Wang, Y., Shen, Y., Boyle, A. E., Polk, R., & Cheng, Y.-P. (2018). Racial/ethnic discrimination and well-being during adolescence: A meta-analytic review. American Psychologist, 73(7), 855–883. https://doi.org/10.1037/amp0000204 Abstract This meta-analytic study systematically investigates the relations between perceived racial/ethnic discrimination and socioemotional distress, academics, and risky health behaviors during adolescence, and potential variation in these relations. The study included 214 peer-reviewed articles, theses, and dissertations, with 489 unique effect sizes on 91,338 unique adolescents. Random-effects meta-analyses across 11 separate indicators of well-being identified significant detrimental effects. Greater perceptions of racial/ethnic discrimination were linked to more depressive and internalizing symptoms; greater psychological distress; poorer self-esteem; lower academic achievement and engagement; less academic motivation; greater engagement in externalizing behaviors, risky sexual behaviors, and substance use; and more associations with deviant peers. Metaregression and subgroup analyses indicated differences by race/ethnicity, Gender × Race/Ethnicity interactions, developmental stage, timing of retrospective measurement of discrimination, and country. Overall, this study highlights the pernicious effects of racial/ethnic discrimination for adolescents across developmental domains and suggests who is potentially at greater risk. (PsycInfo Database Record (c) 2020 APA, all rights reserved) Evidence of Heterogeneity in Effect Sizes Racial/ethnic discrimination tended to pose a greater risk for Asian-descent and Latino youth’s socioemotional well-being compared to African-descent but Latino youth’s academics compared to those of African descent. These differential effects are consistent with other scholarship on mean racial/ethnic differences. For example, prior studies have documented greater depressive symptoms and lower self-esteem among Asian Americans compared to Latinos, African Americans, and Whites (Brown, Meadows, & Elder, 2007; Twenge & Crocker, 2002). Latinos also tend to exhibit higher levels of depression than their White and African American peers (Harris, Gordon-Larsen, Chantala, & Udry, 2006; Twenge & Nolen-Hoeksema, 2002) and are more likely to drop out of secondary school and less likely to attain a Bachelor’s degree or higher versus their White, Asian American, and African American peers (Kena et al., 2015). Our study findings suggest that these mean differences in socioemotional adjustment (particularly challenging for youth of Asian and Latino descent) and academics (particularly challenging for Latino youth) may be driven, at least in part, by experiences of discrimination. Future research, however, is needed to determine whether Latino and Asian American youth are experiencing similar or greater levels of discrimination than their African American peers to support this conclusion. The weaker findings for adolescents of African descent may also reflect parents’ socialization efforts, as African American families are more likely to employ socialization strategies that prepare their children for the bias they may face in multiple contexts of their daily lives (Else-Quest & Morse, 2015). It is also possible that stronger effects for African American youth may be observed for other developmental domains not assessed in the current meta-analysis, such as effects of physical health. Prior meta-analyses have documented stronger effects in the link between discrimination and hypertension for African American adults (Dolezsar et al., 2014), and it is possible that cardiovascular risk factors in adolescence (e.g., overweight status, blood pressure) may be similarly more susceptible to discrimination in African American adolescent populations. Lol what do you think this study proves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SackMan518 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 28 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said: Lol what do you think this study proves? Oh, I'm sorry - I forgot your analytical and reading comprehension skills aren't up to par and I don't feel like spoon feeding you. Perhaps someone else will be kind enough to explain it to you but it won't be me. I'm just here to drop info, not unpack it for you. Quote Sack "The Buffalo Range's TRUSTED News Source!" “When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” ~ Dresden James Parler @NYexile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Just now, SackMan518 said: Oh, I'm sorry - I forgot your analytical and reading comprehension skills aren't up to par and I don't feel like spoon feeding you. Perhaps someone else will be kind enough to explain it to you but it won't be me. I'm just here to drop info, not unpack it for you. No no no... Don't back track now. In your own words, what do you think this study proves? How do you believe it disproves a systemic bias in this counutry against African Americans and POC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SackMan518 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said: No no no... Don't back track now. In your own words, what do you think this study proves? How do you believe it disproves a systemic bias in this counutry against African Americans and POC? Back away? Ha ha, you could only dream of that. The actual reason is just because... 1 Quote Sack "The Buffalo Range's TRUSTED News Source!" “When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” ~ Dresden James Parler @NYexile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Just now, SackMan518 said: Back away? Ha ha, you could only dream of that. The actual reason is just because... Okay, so give it to me hot shot. What do you think this study says that disproves systemic bias in this country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebowflexbody Posted September 29, 2020 Author Share Posted September 29, 2020 Just now, f8ta1ity54 said: Okay, so give it to me hot shot. What do you think this study says that disproves systemic bias in this country? Systemic racism in the USA is but a myth. Fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SackMan518 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said: Okay, so give it to me hot shot. What do you think this study says that disproves systemic bias in this country? "hURr DuRr, i CaN't ReAd aN ACadeMIc stUdY. I nEeD yOu To tElL mE wHaT iT sAyS!" Quote Sack "The Buffalo Range's TRUSTED News Source!" “When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” ~ Dresden James Parler @NYexile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Thebowflexbody said: Systemic racism in the USA is but a myth. Fact. clearly you didnt any of this study either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, SackMan518 said: "hURr DuRr, i CaN't ReAd aN ACadeMIc stUdY. I nEeD yOu To tElL mE wHaT iT sAyS!" “Evidence of Heterogeneity in Effect Sizes Racial/ethnic discrimination tended to pose a greater risk for Asian-descent and Latino youth’s socioemotional well-being compared to African-descent but Latino youth’s academics compared to those of African descent. These differential effects are consistent with other scholarship on mean racial/ethnic differences. For example, prior studies have documented greater depressive symptoms and lower self-esteem among Asian Americans compared to Latinos, African Americans, and Whites (Brown, Meadows, & Elder, 2007; Twenge & Crocker, 2002). Latinos also tend to exhibit higher levels of depression than their White and African American peers (Harris, Gordon-Larsen, Chantala, & Udry, 2006; Twenge & Nolen-Hoeksema, 2002) and are more likely to drop out of secondary school and less likely to attain a Bachelor’s degree or higher versus their White, Asian American, and African American peers (Kena et al., 2015). Our study findings suggest that these mean differences in socioemotional adjustment (particularly challenging for youth of Asian and Latino descent) and academics (particularly challenging for Latino youth) may be driven, at least in part, by experiences of discrimination. Future research, however, is needed to determine whether Latino and Asian American youth are experiencing similar or greater levels of discrimination than their African American peers to support this conclusion. The weaker findings for adolescents of African descent may also reflect parents’ socialization efforts, as African American families are more likely to employ socialization strategies that prepare their children for the bias they may face in multiple contexts of their daily lives (Else-Quest & Morse, 2015). It is also possible that stronger effects for African American youth may be observed for other developmental domains not assessed in the current meta-analysis, such as effects of physical health. Prior meta-analyses have documented stronger effects in the link between discrimination and hypertension for African American adults (Dolezsar et al., 2014), and it is possible that cardiovascular risk factors in adolescence (e.g., overweight status, blood pressure) may be similarly more susceptible to discrimination in African American adolescent populations.” This is the conclusion from the study you cited. DID you happen to read it? “Summary and Conclusions The findings reported in our meta-analysis clearly illustrate the pernicious effects of racial/ethnic discrimination across multiple domains of adolescents’ health and well-being, including their mental health, their engagement in risky health behaviors, and their educational success. The psychological, behavioral, and academic burdens posed by racial/ethnic discrimination during adolescence, coupled with evidence that experiences of discrimination persist across the life course for persons of color, point to discrimination as a clear contributor to the racial/ethnic health disparities observed for African American, Latino, and Native American populations compared to their White counterparts (Mays et al., 2007; Williams & Sternthal, 2010). There is some evidence for variation of effects by individual and study characteristics (i.e., race/ethnicity, race/ethnicity-by-gender, developmental period, retrospective timing, country), but much more work is needed to clearly elucidate who is most at risk for racial/ethnic discrimination and what contexts buffer or exacerbate such risks. There is, however, comprehensive evidence of the far-reaching effects of racial/ethnic discrimination for youth, and as such, future scholarship must also begin investigating intervention and prevention efforts. To date, the intervention science is quite limited but suggests benefits of self-affirmation activities that reduce stereotype threat responses (Bowen, Wegmann, & Webber, 2013; Cohen, Garcia, Apfel, & Master, 2006) and family-centered interventions that give children and adolescents tools for dealing with experiences of discrimination (Brody et al., 2012). Yet in addition to ameliorating the effects of racial/ethnic discrimination at the individual level, we must also work toward preventing the occurrence of discriminatory treatment on a larger scale. How to combat the prejudicial and stereotype views held by adult authority figures and peers is an open question. In their review of prejudice reduction programs, Paluck and Green (2009) identify potential in prevention efforts that facilitate more inter-group contact and cooperation. Although the costs of such programs are likely high, the economic and social costs of continuing to ignore adolescents’ experiences of racial/ethnic discrimination is even higher.” LOLOL this makes me laugh so much. Did you even read any of this? I honestly don’t know what you’re trying to prove here. Unless you were trying to prove my point I? I guess? Thanks! Here is one of the sources cited in this study: Fields AR. The effects of systemic racism on the academic achievement of African American male adolescents. Western Michigan University; Ann Arbor: 2014. (Unpublished doctoral dissertation) L-M-A-O Start learning how Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc856 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Let me make a statement. There’s a perception that blacks are more violent and criminal than other races. Number 1: Is this true? Number 2: If it is true, why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Who has this perception? You? Are you asking if they are inherently more violent and disposed to criminality? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebowflexbody Posted September 29, 2020 Author Share Posted September 29, 2020 Just now, f8ta1ity54 said: Who has this perception? You? Are you asking if they are inherently more violent and disposed to criminality? I'd say they are per capita. Is that incorrect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Thebowflexbody said: I'd say they are per capita. Is that incorrect? As in, they are genetically predisposed to violence and crime? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebowflexbody Posted September 29, 2020 Author Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 minute ago, f8ta1ity54 said: As in, they are genetically predisposed to violence and crime? The genetics angle is new. Doesn't say that above. Genetically would be a stretch in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Thebowflexbody said: The genetics angle is new. Doesn't say that above. Genetically would be a stretch in my opinion. Well I feel like I need to clarify because of the quality of posters on here. Yes African americans commit crime at a higher rate compared to whites. However African americans are disproportionately more likely to be poor. Poor people commit the most crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SackMan518 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, f8ta1ity54 said: augh so much. Did you even read any of this? I honestly don’t know what you’re trying to prove here. Unless you were trying to prove my point I? I guess? Thanks! Here is one of the sources cited in this study: First of all, learn to format your text. Second, their speculation as to why doesn't change the fact that this is what they found. And you know what the hilarious part is? The section you highlighted in red asserts that a possible cause is that the parents of African-American children are programming them to look for biases in society which means their frame of reference will incline them to see any slight as a matter of racism above any other cause. Wow, you really are a dim bulb. We could also go into how Affirmative Action laws negatively affect Caucasians and Asians but then you'd get spanked on that one too. Quote Sack "The Buffalo Range's TRUSTED News Source!" “When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” ~ Dresden James Parler @NYexile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 32 minutes ago, SackMan518 said: First of all, learn to format your text. Second, their speculation as to why doesn't change the fact that this is what they found. And you know what the hilarious part is? The section you highlighted in red asserts that a possible cause is that the parents of African-American children are programming them to look for biases in society which means their frame of reference will incline them to see any slight as a matter of racism above any other cause. Wow, you really are a dim bulb. We could also go into how Affirmative Action laws negatively affect Caucasians and Asians but then you'd get spanked on that one too. First of all, eat a dick. Second, since there is less socioemotional problems with African Americans because their parents prepare them for the "far-reaching" racism/discrimination by "authority figures" that the paper explicitly says exists, this somehow means no system racism? This paper does not imply that african americans "look for biases in society which means their frame of reference will incline them to see any slight as a matter of racism above any other cause." Other races are less prepared for racism, and this somehow disproves systemic bias? So the paper proves that blacks have learned to cope with discrimination and racism better because they are trained by parents. The same people who have dealt with discrimination for generations. How exactly does this disprove systemic racism? I''d also like to point out that 10% of the data used in this study comes from other countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 I'd also like to point out that not only does @SackMan518 bring up a study that doesn't help his case, but he also believes that this one study disproves an entire thread I made with at least 20 sources backed by enormous studies and data. WOW. Classic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc856 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, f8ta1ity54 said: Who has this perception? You? Are you asking if they are inherently more violent and disposed to criminality? You always ask a question when asked a question. Why is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f8ta1ity54 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, jc856 said: You always ask a question when asked a question. Why is that? Is there something wrong with wanting clarification on potentially loaded questions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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